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Tara Rocks and Kilanerin are together for good now that's the way it was always going to be as way too many rock players were and have given up as they either didn't want it to go ahead or werent getting games.I thought the idea of amalgamation is to help playing numbers not see half the players give up and never play again.This seems to have suited about 4-5 rock lads who are the stronger players the rest seem to be really struggling with it was always going to suit kilanerin more its got them back senior.I would fear for Tara Rocks hurling now as senior football will be given major priority over hurling now and this will lead to more rock players finishing up as no effort will be put into hurling.This amalgamation was a bad idea by county board and the Tara Rocks as their club seems to have suffered beyond repair.I hope I'm wrong and we see a strong Rocks team next year back on their own pushing for junior titles.. wex82 (Wexford) - Posts: 214 - 18/10/2017 19:37:30 2056086 Link
Replying To Stratos: "Likewise I felt going to Belfield on Saturday that Crossbeg would be too strong but how wrong I was. A great game that could have went either way in the end and a replay was a fair result. Sunday a repeat in Wexford park where the tension was surreal and what a pity that Bunclody had to lose in this fashion. For me Mattie Ford's 10 mins of brilliance was the main difference between these two teams. Aidan Nolan was outstanding for the hour, a fine dual player he is. The senior replay was a big disappointment as is turned into a dragging and pulling match for the hour, constant cynical fouls which no referee could control. If the rules were to be applied many players could have received red cards. The Martins are a fine team and they are being tipped by all of the newspaper pundits to overcome Oulart on Sunday. Lets hope we have an entertaining game." A good referee would call in both captains after ten minutes of that rubbish. Clearly state to both captains you have a minute to call in your players, warn them that if this continues its red cards from here on. hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 19/10/2017 09:46:15 2056152 Link
Replying To hurlorhurley: "A good referee would call in both captains after ten minutes of that rubbish. Clearly state to both captains you have a minute to call in your players, warn them that if this continues its red cards from here on." The important word there being a good referee. Unfortunately for the drawn game and the replay two of the least player friendly referees in the county were in charge. 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 19/10/2017 16:08:07 2056260 Link
Replying To hurlorhurley: "A good referee would call in both captains after ten minutes of that rubbish. Clearly state to both captains you have a minute to call in your players, warn them that if this continues its red cards from here on." this is gaa not rugby,sensible talks with captains dont happen....... perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 19/10/2017 16:17:14 2056263 Link
Rumours that Rory O connor is not fit for Sunday.. If so it is very hard to see a Martins win. Groundball (Wexford) - Posts: 122 - 20/10/2017 20:29:54 2056701 Link
Replying To Groundball: "Rumours that Rory O connor is not fit for Sunday.. If so it is very hard to see a Martins win." There were also rumours that Davy Fitz had left and that conor counihan was the new football manager so .... 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 20/10/2017 23:42:16 2056723 Link
Quietest build up to a county final ever. It will not be helped by the weather today. I think the conditions will suit Oularts more experienced old dogs. They are probably running out of legs, but I dont think they are finished winning them yet. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 21/10/2017 13:23:31 2056786 Link
Was at the game today. Well done to st martins on a throughly deserved victory. Was a poor game overall i felt with the only sign of creativity being the quick free that lead to the martins first goal. We know both teams have great skillful players, but It wasnt the hurling ability that won it for the martins today it was their workrate in comparison to oulart that set them apart. But oulart at times played around with the ball and made trouble for themselves particularly in their own half back line. Unfortunate to see des mythen unable to start, a wonderful hurler who I hope will be back to full fitness in time for next season. For the martins well I'd expect them to be there for a few more years, they must have one of the youngest panels ever. In relation to the refereeing which I am often very critical of- Someone in power must read my posts!!!, I said previously that James owens, John carton, niall McDonald and Justin heffernan were the 4 best referees in the county at the moment and gladly those 4 were the officials in charge of today's game and thus it was a well handled game. Hopefully st martins can give us something to cheer on in the Leinster championship 890202 (Wexford) - Posts: 1278 - 22/10/2017 21:30:07 2057069 Link
it was a very poor match,i would have expected a bit more passion from both sides,and the only bit of clever thinking was for the it was a case of a team on the up beating a team on the way down i thought.i thought oularts guile would see them over the line,but they were out-battled.but they owe club or county nothing any of them. the pitch was in great condition,considering the rain that had fallen great credit to john nolan and co board for having a pitch which can hold up as well. fair play to st martins,they are a great dual club.can they do it again on sunday?winning is such a habit,it would be brave to bet against them. rory o connor is a serious talent,i just hope we dont burn him out though between college,club,county in both codes. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/10/2017 09:18:18 2057129 Link
Looks to be a changing of the guard year in Wexford club hurling , only things that could stop the martins dominating over the next 5 plus years is trying to serve both codes unlike oulart, rathnure and buffers alley in there periods of dominance and if a bit of complacency kicked in, the latter point I think has been a key component of oularts success sense 2004 bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 23/10/2017 14:47:46 2057252 Link
Replying To wexico15: "Looks to be a changing of the guard year in Wexford club hurling , only things that could stop the martins dominating over the next 5 plus years is trying to serve both codes unlike oulart, rathnure and buffers alley in there periods of dominance and if a bit of complacency kicked in, the latter point I think has been a key component of oularts success sense 2004" I expect Naomh Eanna, Rapperees, St Martins to be the main contenders in hurling over the next 5-10 years. I think Oulart will have one final title in them but once the Over 30's crew retire they have a barren spell ahead of them. Has happened to Buffers Alley and Rathnure and I can see it happening to Oulart as well. St Martins have got the balance just right, the key to their success is compromise and having one crew in charge of everything and these crews work together to win everything they can. So far their top team in each code has won a championship Ladies Football 1st team won intermediate championship, Camogie 1st team won senior championship, hurling 1st team won championship, Football 1st team into county final. Hats off to St Martins their underage structures are on the money and continuing to produce. hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 23/10/2017 15:30:32 2057268 Link
For a man who has been touted as a Wexford manager for a long time, you would have to question Frank Flannerys tactics in the match yesterday. If I was a St. Martins back, and see Rory Jacob on the opposing 65, I would be thrilled. If I seen him on the 21, I would have my heart in my mouth, and why Oulart didn't push him closer to goal, when their forwards were having an off day, is beyond me. Oulart will be back, and even if they are not, well those group of players have represented club and county with great dignity and can hold their heads high. Just 23 years ago, Oulart won their first county title. Now they have 13. That is some going in anybody's view. Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 23/10/2017 15:47:00 2057270 Link
Replying To Pinkie: "For a man who has been touted as a Wexford manager for a long time, you would have to question Frank Flannerys tactics in the match yesterday. If I was a St. Martins back, and see Rory Jacob on the opposing 65, I would be thrilled. If I seen him on the 21, I would have my heart in my mouth, and why Oulart didn't push him closer to goal, when their forwards were having an off day, is beyond me. Oulart will be back, and even if they are not, well those group of players have represented club and county with great dignity and can hold their heads high. Just 23 years ago, Oulart won their first county title. Now they have 13. That is some going in anybody's view." Agreed the work done with them at underage level in the late eighties early 90's has yielded huge success for them. People like Mick and Breda Jacob, Margaret Lacey, the O'Connors etc deserve huge credit in the time they have won several camogie senior titles also. Just proves if you put in the effort in the schools and underage the rewards will come. They may have a few barren years coming but starting the cycle all over again is the only way to guarantee further success. hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 23/10/2017 16:18:54 2057282 Link
if even 5 other clubs had replicated oularts effort,wexford gaa would be in a far better place than it is. i think st martins will be the new oulart,but yet nobody bet oulart at the peak of their powers between 09-13,unless you caught them on a serious off day. the names you mention deserve a lot of credit.gaa is cyclical,i am sure oulart will be back. perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 23/10/2017 16:45:17 2057294 Link
Replying To perfect10: "if even 5 other clubs had replicated oularts effort,wexford gaa would be in a far better place than it is. i think st martins will be the new oulart,but yet nobody bet oulart at the peak of their powers between 09-13,unless you caught them on a serious off day. the names you mention deserve a lot of credit.gaa is cyclical,i am sure oulart will be back." Oularts efforts were only one code so that makes it a lot easier to be consistent at that code. St Martins have been successful at under age in both codes for the last number of years and that really shows now. Now that's a club putting in serious work at under age. mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 23/10/2017 19:52:38 2057338 Link
Replying To mrfox: "Oularts efforts were only one code so that makes it a lot easier to be consistent at that code. St Martins have been successful at under age in both codes for the last number of years and that really shows now. Now that's a club putting in serious work at under age." So because Oulart dont play football they haven't put in serious work? Thats nonsense lad! 13 county titles since 1994 is not easy no matter what way you want to degrade the achievement!! hurler101 (Wexford) - Posts: 471 - 23/10/2017 21:10:01 2057360 Link
Replying To mrfox: "Oularts efforts were only one code so that makes it a lot easier to be consistent at that code. St Martins have been successful at under age in both codes for the last number of years and that really shows now. Now that's a club putting in serious work at under age." Agree with Hurler101, I think you are being a bit cynical. Even clubs that prefer hurling that have a football team, dont bother training at it so they might aswell just be playing hurling. Just Oulart dont play football, dosent diminish there achievements any less in my view and I am not an Oulart supporter before you ask. They have been great servants to the club and county but every club has a cycle and Oulart are going through one now. alwaysasub (Wexford) - Posts: 474 - 24/10/2017 08:43:04 2057429 Link
Replying To hurler101: "So because Oulart dont play football they haven't put in serious work? Thats nonsense lad! 13 county titles since 1994 is not easy no matter what way you want to degrade the achievement!!" They have put in a lot of work alright but not as much as some other clubs mrfox (Wexford) - Posts: 338 - 24/10/2017 09:20:42 2057439 Link
Replying To mrfox: "Oularts efforts were only one code so that makes it a lot easier to be consistent at that code. St Martins have been successful at under age in both codes for the last number of years and that really shows now. Now that's a club putting in serious work at under age." so,wait there,oularts achievements are nothing because they only play 1 code?really?do you really think that? perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 24/10/2017 09:36:15 2057445 Link
Replying To mrfox: "They have put in a lot of work alright but not as much as some other clubs" I think the point is that they put in huge work during the late 80's and early 90's. They may have taken their eye off the ball a bit somewhere in the mead time and now like all cycles theirs is just about at the end. I am 100% more a football man but i love hurling too and I would rate Oulart as a great club for their county, they always produce players for county teams and they have represented Wexford at provincial and national level in camogie and hurling with pride over the years. The only thing I would feel against Oulart is jealousy that they have achieved so much. hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 24/10/2017 10:48:06 2057468 Link