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Replying To Waltermitty2: "The structure of our club championship has nothing to do with how poor our county teams are." How do you figure that?
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4645 - 21/08/2026 20:21:21
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Replying To Pikeman96: "Realise I'm throwing a lot into this conversation, but here goes again!
Maybe goes back to what we spoke about a couple of weeks ago, about democracy maybe being a bad thing in clubs having such a say on championship structures. Generally speaking, clubs think primarily of what gives themselves the best chance.
No wonder that groups of six, with four or five going through, are so popular. You could get away with two, three or even four bad results and still go through. But change to just three matches in a group of four, and you probably won't get away with two bad results, and you definitely won't get away with three.
And it's 100% true that we simply can't have everything people want - i.e. county teams going further than they've done these past few years, club championships that take 17 rounds of fixtures to complete, a free weekend for EP, and still have the whole lot wrapped up in time for Leinster Club Championships.
Just to point out though that we had the two groups of six long before the HAC got involved in such things, so I wouldn't be laying all the blame at their door. Even if they'd never come in with their proposals that led to the extra round in hurling, we'd still need 16 weeks, and we'd still be in difficulty getting everything else we want if our county teams went further." Yes but the 2 groups of 6 also goes back to a time when we had rounds of championship in April/May which gave us room and gave rhe opportunity to take a breath. I agree thats nkt on the HAC but they are obsessed with games fkr the sake of games.
When it comes to this situation democracy is a disaster, whats even worse is the fact many clubs still just say drive on, shur we will work it out without giving any thought as to how this can be worked out as evidenced by some of the sellers on here.
I pretty much guarantee that most people in most clubs aren't aware of the facts as outlined here.
I do think the county board need to do a proper analysis and it has to stem from them saying what we are doing isn't feasible,e fkr what everyone wants again as outlined here. Its not the county boards fault but they do need to spearhead the drive for change and it has to be communicated to clubs.
At the moment we aren't been served well by our club championships imho
tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1686 - 22/08/2026 09:17:09
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Replying To tearintom: "Yes but the 2 groups of 6 also goes back to a time when we had rounds of championship in April/May which gave us room and gave rhe opportunity to take a breath. I agree thats nkt on the HAC but they are obsessed with games fkr the sake of games.
When it comes to this situation democracy is a disaster, whats even worse is the fact many clubs still just say drive on, shur we will work it out without giving any thought as to how this can be worked out as evidenced by some of the sellers on here.
I pretty much guarantee that most people in most clubs aren't aware of the facts as outlined here.
I do think the county board need to do a proper analysis and it has to stem from them saying what we are doing isn't feasible,e fkr what everyone wants again as outlined here. Its not the county boards fault but they do need to spearhead the drive for change and it has to be communicated to clubs.
At the moment we aren't been served well by our club championships imho" And do we have to have groups of 6 for both???
Start the change with the football championship as no committee there to object. Then if it is successful the hurling championship will follow.
Trump2 (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 22/08/2026 09:50:05
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Replying To tearintom: "Yes but the 2 groups of 6 also goes back to a time when we had rounds of championship in April/May which gave us room and gave rhe opportunity to take a breath. I agree thats nkt on the HAC but they are obsessed with games fkr the sake of games.
When it comes to this situation democracy is a disaster, whats even worse is the fact many clubs still just say drive on, shur we will work it out without giving any thought as to how this can be worked out as evidenced by some of the sellers on here.
I pretty much guarantee that most people in most clubs aren't aware of the facts as outlined here.
I do think the county board need to do a proper analysis and it has to stem from them saying what we are doing isn't feasible,e fkr what everyone wants again as outlined here. Its not the county boards fault but they do need to spearhead the drive for change and it has to be communicated to clubs.
At the moment we aren't been served well by our club championships imho" I wonder if clubs were given the option it's either straight knockout championship or we have to play the first few rounds of the championship without the county players which one would they choose?
camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 104 - 22/08/2026 10:02:30
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Replying To Trump2: "And do we have to have groups of 6 for both???
Start the change with the football championship as no committee there to object. Then if it is successful the hurling championship will follow." There is a Football Advisory Committee, every bit as much as there's a hurling one. They just don't tend to be as vocal, and they haven't brought any motions about football championship structure.
But I guarantee you - any move to run football as groups of just three or four, while hurling remains groups of six, would cause an outcry.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3910 - 22/08/2026 11:31:19
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Anyway. About this weekend's matches. :)
I see a four-way tie in one of the Intermediate A groups. Looking at the "mini league" table on Wexford GAA Facebook makes me think how much jeopardy there'd really be if that was just a group of four in the first place. Clongeen would be out of the championship despite having exactly the same results (one win, one draw, one defeat) as the team at the top of their table. Every single score would have been crucial and an extra goal or two somewhere along the way could have made a massive difference.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3910 - 22/08/2026 11:34:24
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Replying To Pikeman96: "There is a Football Advisory Committee, every bit as much as there's a hurling one. They just don't tend to be as vocal, and they haven't brought any motions about football championship structure.
But I guarantee you - any move to run football as groups of just three or four, while hurling remains groups of six, would cause an outcry." Dog in the manger kind of stuff..
Trump2 (Wexford) - Posts: 17 - 22/08/2026 12:24:42
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Replying To Doylerwex: "How do you figure that?" Well the last time I looked players had to be 18 before they play in adult championships. If you are relying on the adult club championships to develop players for county teams you are in a sad place. The club championship could be more competitive for sure but its primary purpose is for the 90% of players in the GAA and to keep the game alive.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2231 - 22/08/2026 18:49:27
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Replying To tearintom: "Yes but the 2 groups of 6 also goes back to a time when we had rounds of championship in April/May which gave us room and gave rhe opportunity to take a breath. I agree thats nkt on the HAC but they are obsessed with games fkr the sake of games.
When it comes to this situation democracy is a disaster, whats even worse is the fact many clubs still just say drive on, shur we will work it out without giving any thought as to how this can be worked out as evidenced by some of the sellers on here.
I pretty much guarantee that most people in most clubs aren't aware of the facts as outlined here.
I do think the county board need to do a proper analysis and it has to stem from them saying what we are doing isn't feasible,e fkr what everyone wants again as outlined here. Its not the county boards fault but they do need to spearhead the drive for change and it has to be communicated to clubs.
At the moment we aren't been served well by our club championships imho" What might be more acceptable is two groups of five and create a senior A & B - but clubs still won't vote for it as they fear they could be the team to be relegated.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2231 - 22/08/2026 18:56:09
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Replying To zinny: "Well the last time I looked players had to be 18 before they play in adult championships. If you are relying on the adult club championships to develop players for county teams you are in a sad place. The club championship could be more competitive for sure but its primary purpose is for the 90% of players in the GAA and to keep the game alive." Just on a point of order. You don't have to be 18. You just have to be in your final year of Minor.
For example, if your birthday is Christmas Day, you'd still only be 17 years old during all of this year's championship. But then you'd turn 18 in December and thus be overage for Minor next year. So as you're in your final year of Minor now, you'd be entitled to play adult now, despite still only being 17.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3910 - 22/08/2026 20:18:09
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What has happened to buffers alley, it is really disappointing to see a once great club fall back so far. They were beaten by 20 something points yesterday and it wasn't their only big beaten this year. I fear for them against St james in the quarter final.
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1235 - 23/08/2026 11:00:42
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Replying To zinny: "What might be more acceptable is two groups of five and create a senior A & B - but clubs still won't vote for it as they fear they could be the team to be relegated." 3 groups of 4 the way to go.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20536 - 23/08/2026 15:27:52
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3 goups of 5
Group a and b made of senior teams top 5 finishing places this year .
2 bottom teams into group c for following year .
Promote 2 intermediate teams that are in the intermediate final to Group c for following year and for first year only have a play off for losing semi finalists to see who makes up the 5th team for group c
Intermediate would be 2 groups of 5 also inter A winners promoted .to intermediate . Losers of relegation releated as is now .
15 teams could win senior Group c would be weaker Group potentially and they get chance to play teams of more like their standard Like a half way house to build but still potential to won championship
Top 3 in a+ b straight to 1/4 final 4th in each group play 1 and 2 in group c in preliminary 1/4 final . And then 1/4 finals as usual .
3rd and 4th in group c go into intermediate 1/4 finals joined by 1st and 2nd in intermediate groups .
3rd plays 4th in opposite groups in prelim 1/4 final .
Winners into 1/4 final proper losers finished .
5th in intermediate groups into relegation final as is now .
5th in group c relegated to intermediate for following year . Winners of intermediate promoted to group c or best placed intermediate team if any or both group c teams make it to intermediate final .
Top 2 in c promoted to group a b for following year . 5th in a and b relagated to c group for following year .
And 3r or 4th santander be relegated only 5th in group c .
At least 5 games apart from 5th in group c
Each team gets week off in between .
Promoted teams have chance to possibly stay up and pkay teams of similar quality .
Any questions do ask to clarify format as lot to take in maybe.
Why would teams vote fir it no relegation on first year for . More to lose ie jeopardy in group stages . Abd all games . Reward for coming in top 3 but still plenty of games a week off for every team to regroup in betwen round robin .
Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 673 - 23/08/2026 16:02:24
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What's the new system in wexford now? Is it top 3 or 4 through, and bottom team in each group in relegation final?
richiepmurphy (Kilkenny) - Posts: 152 - 23/08/2026 21:37:10
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Went to my first live games this weekend kinda regretted it. Oylegate were far too good for Rapps damien deck was outstanding could be an option in the forwards for Derek mcgrath. Seem to be playing the short ball which suits them.
Anne's won easily against the harriers who were terrible. Were allowed do what they want the elder statesmen were very good.
WexMurph (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 23/08/2026 22:19:45
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Oylgate v Rapps
Poor match yesterday,the rapps really struggled with the direct running of oylegate yesterday,they never really looked to get to grips with it!! Rapps have been struggling all year and when kevin foyles influence is snuffed out rapps really struggle also they do not look fit lots of fellas struggling to get around!!! Liam ryan looks a shadow of his former self to,but i think they will pull it together for the relegation final iv seen fethard and they are terrible!!!oylgate played the better hurling throughout seem to have plenty legs and strong down the middle!!! Damien reckons caused all sorts of trouble with his direct running and scoring,raps couldn't handle him!!! Sean Rowley seems to be progressing nicely,seamus casey good on frees and hurled well as sweeper to clever on the ball!!! Jim White strong in defence!! Oylegate will be happy where they are big improvements on last year and seem to be in a good place going into quarter finals!!
Annes v Harriers
Thought this was going to be the match of the weekend usually notting between them!! Harriers got off to a good start think it was 1-2 to a point in the first few mins and I thought they were going well,but that was sort of the harriers purple patch and the annes just took over from there!! First 15 mins was very messy after that it looked like annes could do what they wanted,seemed to have spare men everywhere!!! Very impressed with ciaran Doyle really hurled well kept chin very quiet and that was it really as regards the harriers causing any problems for annes!! Liam Rochford was on everything as sweeper was brilliant liam og worked socks off creator and scoring caused all sorts of problems like wise dee okeefee kyle Kennedy and mickey fogarty who caused serious problems when he was introduced!!! The harriers were really poor showed no fight dont look fit at all,really disappointed with them,looked good against gorey,but what i will say that gorey team was set up all over the place that night and it did not suit them they were in a heap!!! Lee chin held and they have no threat up front absolutely none!!! Seem to be at sea at the back look like they have no leaders or players goin to it!!! Very passive,looked like they had no plan about what they were trying to do!!! Harriers just look like a team happy to be safe look like a team who lack belief and I'd say they struggle against who ever they play next if the play like that,st annes got off to a poor start and look to be coming right at the right time be a force in championship yet I think they get to semi final might not have enough to get to final, but will be hard bet!!!
theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 309 - 24/08/2026 07:52:24
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Replying To WexMurph: "Went to my first live games this weekend kinda regretted it. Oylegate were far too good for Rapps damien deck was outstanding could be an option in the forwards for Derek mcgrath. Seem to be playing the short ball which suits them.
Anne's won easily against the harriers who were terrible. Were allowed do what they want the elder statesmen were very good." Last round not much riding on a lot of results bar the Rapps now finding themselves in the relegation final. Worrying for the game really in the town. Fethard put down Starlights last year in the football and could repeat the dose in the hurling this year. What's going on in enniscorthy at all?
I know Fethard have had injuries but is there a bit of a gap now between intermediate and senior? Fethard and Cloughbawn have been bouncing between both grades which feels like for years. G/B and Oulart treading water at senior level just above them.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 598 - 24/08/2026 10:47:23
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Replying To WexMurph: "Went to my first live games this weekend kinda regretted it. Oylegate were far too good for Rapps damien deck was outstanding could be an option in the forwards for Derek mcgrath. Seem to be playing the short ball which suits them.
Anne's won easily against the harriers who were terrible. Were allowed do what they want the elder statesmen were very good." I was away so channel hopped on clubber. Alot of wides in the Gorey Martins game, Gary Molloy was solid, Patsy went off injured, hope its not too bad. Saw the 2nd half of Oulart v Barntown, Barntown worked the ball, or delivered it, pretty well up the pitch, but some questionable decision making and finishing from their young forwards let them down. Probably shouldve took more points. Oulart were more efficient in the periods they were on top, and deserved the win. Saw a bit of the Harriers Annes game too, thought the Annes backs were pretty solid, while the Harriers looked a little toothless.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20536 - 24/08/2026 11:44:12
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I don't think it's ideal that for the likes of Rathnure, yesterday was their only official Championship game in the space of about eight weeks
Played R4, then had to wait three weeks to play R5 (Which is normal tbf), and now I think they have to wait another five weeks to play their QF
I can understand that it allows them time to train whilst others spend most of the week recovering rather than training but the balance still seems off to me
Like the Preliminary QFs are basically adding another week to the Championship all to play two extra games in each grade between the 4th and 5th-placed teams
That sounds silly to me
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1506 - 24/08/2026 12:48:11
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Replying To Timbertony: "Last round not much riding on a lot of results bar the Rapps now finding themselves in the relegation final. Worrying for the game really in the town. Fethard put down Starlights last year in the football and could repeat the dose in the hurling this year. What's going on in enniscorthy at all?
I know Fethard have had injuries but is there a bit of a gap now between intermediate and senior? Fethard and Cloughbawn have been bouncing between both grades which feels like for years. G/B and Oulart treading water at senior level just above them." As regards gap you could add Crossabeg to that too. So I suppose the gap between the top 2 or 3 in Intermediate and bottom 2 or 3 in Senior isnt huge?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20536 - 24/08/2026 14:10:43
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