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Is the League more important than Championship?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20312 - 21/07/2026 21:23:04 2686537 Link 0 |
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For Carlow footballers, yes, because we are not exactly in contention for Sam or Leinster. But for the hurlers, it's different because the current format is effectively two leagues, at lower grades. Two different set ups. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 1133 - 22/07/2026 10:42:33 2686569 Link 0 |
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It is for Carps as we got hammered in football when team got their best teams on the pitch, as you should do for championship. Much more potential in Carlow for hurling but the board is controlled by footballers unfortunately. Lets rank the two codes based on championship which is the real form, hurlers top 12, and fbailer top 30 based on the hoganstand 2026 rankings forum, https://hoganstand.com/Forum/Details/113649?Latest=1, only ahead of New York, London, Waterford. That's the outside neutral view unfortunately. Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 162 - 22/07/2026 12:23:21 2686588 Link 0 |
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Those "rankings" are nonsense. Wicklow, who came third in Division Four, 16th best in the country? Come off it. And the whole problem with this year's Tailteann was that Carlow didn't have their best team on the pitch. And the same applied to many others. You do realiise that not every county has fully bought into the Tailteann? There are real question marks over how well some prepare and how strong their panels are. The fact is that the hurlers are something like 14th or 15th of roughly 20, on this years overall form, and the footballers are something like 25th or 26th of 31. But whereas there is a considerable gap between 10th and 20th in hurling (Wexford would destroy Donegal or Wicklow), there isn't a huge gap between 20th and 30th in football. These are just the facts, sorry. I prefer hurling to football, but pretending they are exactly the same in terms of competitiveness is ridiculous. I actually agree hurling has more potential in hurling, but there is no point in even talking about that when he have 20 football clubs and only 10 hurling. To realise that potential, you would need the likes of Eire Og, Rathvilly, Tullow and Palatine to become dual clubs, and you'd also need to see people in Clonmore, Grange, Tinryland etc picking up their hurls in some capacity. If we had a full county hurling program, yes, we could possibly win a Leinster inside the next 20 or 30 years. But we don't, and it's not going to happen when there's not a single county hurler from Carlow town (which is half the population of the county). I wish this were not true, but I am not going to live in La La Land, like some of the hurling folk in Carlow. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 1133 - 22/07/2026 14:17:01 2686608 Link 0 |
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lol
Collio (Carlow) - Posts: 130 - 22/07/2026 15:15:06 2686618 Link 0 |
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Those "rankings" are nonsense. Wicklow, who came third in Division Four, 16th best in the country? Come off it. And the whole problem with this year's Tailteann was that Carlow didn't have their best team on the pitch. And the same applied to many others. You do realiise that not every county has fully bought into the Tailteann? There are real question marks over how well some prepare and how strong their panels are. The fact is that the hurlers are something like 14th or 15th of roughly 20, on this years overall form, and the footballers are something like 25th or 26th of 31. But whereas there is a considerable gap between 10th and 20th in hurling (Wexford would destroy Donegal or Wicklow), there isn't a huge gap between 20th and 30th in football. These are just the facts, sorry. I prefer hurling to football, but pretending they are exactly the same in terms of competitiveness is ridiculous. I actually agree hurling has more potential, but there is no point in even talking about that when he have 20 football clubs and only 10 hurling. To realise that potential, you would need the likes of Eire Og, Rathvilly, Tullow and Palatine to become dual clubs, and you'd also need to see people in Clonmore, Grange, Tinryland etc picking up their hurls in some capacity. If we had a full county hurling program, yes, we could possibly win a Leinster inside the next 20 or 30 years. But we don't, and it's not going to happen when there's not a single county hurler from Carlow town (which is half the population of the county) or Tullow involved in the senior panel. I wish this were not true. But it is. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 1133 - 22/07/2026 16:18:36 2686631 Link 1 |
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There's a fair gap between your hurlers and Donegal or Wicklows in fairness. You made the Joe Mac final which would put you as 13th best team in hurling. And this year there wasnt much of a gap between yourselves, ourselves and Kildare. You wouldve been much closer to us than Wicklow or Donegal in hurling. Your Footballers went well in div 4 of the League, but you still lost twice in it. The only group match your hurlers lost in Championship was when they fielded a second team in Antrim. Carlow hurlers beat every other Joe Mac team in a Championship game this year. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 20312 - 22/07/2026 16:55:55 2686636 Link 1 |