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Replying To mick2007:  "What were the 2 from clones?"
There should be 16 in intermediate so there relegation groups would be easier

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 509 - 23/01/2026 22:37:01    2652825

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Not a bad wee team named in the circumstances. Dowd, Hughes, Treanor and Carolan have looked quite promising so far so good luck to them starting.
Bench light on attacking options - Davy and Mooney have to deliver. Good new options at the back, midfield very vulnerable.
Hard (almost impossible) to see a win against a strong Armagh team named but you never know. How about a 2-point win, with Eddie Walsh making the scoring difference off the bench?!

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1280 - 24/01/2026 10:17:36    2652848

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Not a bad wee team named in the circumstances. Dowd, Hughes, Treanor and Carolan have looked quite promising so far so good luck to them starting.
Bench light on attacking options - Davy and Mooney have to deliver. Good new options at the back, midfield very vulnerable.
Hard (almost impossible) to see a win against a strong Armagh team named but you never know. How about a 2-point win, with Eddie Walsh making the scoring difference off the bench?!"
That's as poor a Armagh team as is likely to be seen all year.
Serious opportunity to bank points early,

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 24/01/2026 13:26:12    2652884

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "That's as poor a Armagh team as is likely to be seen all year.
Serious opportunity to bank points early,"
They probably have more experience on the pitch, half back line is their strenght. Never much in it between the teams. Rookie enough Monaghan team but we have to start pushing new players through and build a team with what we have. Watching mc manus on Laochra gael the other night, we had some serious players in that era. I do feel at present we are in transition massively and it will take time. Tomorrow will be tight and cagey, I'll go for a share of the spoils.

222 (UK) - Posts: 900 - 24/01/2026 14:48:38    2652903

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Madden won the co championship and they don't even have a player on the panel for the game. Not many counties can boast that stat

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 962 - 24/01/2026 16:42:33    2652914

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Not a bad wee team named in the circumstances. Dowd, Hughes, Treanor and Carolan have looked quite promising so far so good luck to them starting.
Bench light on attacking options - Davy and Mooney have to deliver. Good new options at the back, midfield very vulnerable.
Hard (almost impossible) to see a win against a strong Armagh team named but you never know. How about a 2-point win, with Eddie Walsh making the scoring difference off the bench?!"
Realistically you can't see this game against Armagh going well. As division one teams go Monaghan have named a very poor one a lot of average players that don't even stand out at intermediate level never mind inter county. It will be a long season if better players don't return soon enough

FarneyFan11 (Monaghan) - Posts: 18 - 25/01/2026 00:29:59    2652999

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In response to earlier comments the two Clones Proposals were laughable by Orielman.

Can you expand why ? Or is it logical to you to have two different ways of differentiating between teams on same points in league versus championship?


And Clones didn't propose any increase or decrease to divisions.

What was your own clubs contribution or yours Orielman ?

Clonkirkgael (Monaghan) - Posts: 66 - 25/01/2026 08:09:50    2653010

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Replying To FarneyFan11:  "Realistically you can't see this game against Armagh going well. As division one teams go Monaghan have named a very poor one a lot of average players that don't even stand out at intermediate level never mind inter county. It will be a long season if better players don't return soon enough"
Agreed in fairness, it is far from a convincing panel heading into Div 1. You wouldn't even be convinced of winning out at Div 2 level. Even in the best years, Monaghan always relied on last day miracles to stay up so the task is huge this year. So its game by game to find 5 points.

Eddie the Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 1280 - 25/01/2026 11:50:46    2653035

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Age old problem we have a pretty small pick of quality inter County players. When everyone is fit and available we are just about a div 1 side and can give anyone a game but missing the scotstown lads players injured travelling we are very average and would struggle to stay in div 2. Watched matches yesterday and the conditioning of teams div 1 & 2 even this early is impressive. We lack something physically in comparison . I dont think league will begin properly for us until Dublin game when lads hopefully return. Anything picked up in these first two games would be an unexpected bonus.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1939 - 25/01/2026 12:39:04    2653049

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Credit to armagh much sharper fitter team, we were awful in that first half good few lads look unfit. Im afraid gary mohan isn't a midfielder, we need our players back for next week or it's relegation im afraid

McGuirk1985@ (Monaghan) - Posts: 119 - 25/01/2026 16:26:42    2653107

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Replying To McGuirk1985@:  "Credit to armagh much sharper fitter team, we were awful in that first half good few lads look unfit. Im afraid gary mohan isn't a midfielder, we need our players back for next week or it's relegation im afraid"
1st half was our poorest display since kerry in group stages in 24. The players looked out of condition for div 1 and armagh might as well been playing a div 4 side in firsf 35 minutes. Bar Woods o toole on hanlon and dessie ward who tried hard rest of the team were well off it today. Mohan doesn't look fit hes not as bad a player as he showed today looks very leggy. Not looking great for the season ahead. Armagh won that pulling up and could put up a cricket score if they wanted to. Mcgeeney wont have as easy a game again this year. Apart from missing players its worrying monaghan started a league like they did today with game effectively over at half time in Clones. Been a while since we folded like that at home.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1939 - 25/01/2026 20:25:30    2653165

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What ever about the lack of quality on display today, there's conditioning of our players is terrible. We have had the same preseason as Donegal & Armagh and look a million miles off both. The theme of today's display was Armagh picking up a short KO and blitzing us with their pace all over the pitch, that's nothing to do with debuts or missing players, that's an unprepared squad, simple as that.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 25/01/2026 20:41:09    2653170

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Was a worrying defeat alright. Conditioning didn't look great but armagh had alot of seasoned players out there after all they won it in 24 and are a very good team. We have alot of rookies, trying to get to a high pitch division 1 game, ain't easy. We lack physicality and box to box midfielders. It's a tough division and there is no hiding place. It will be hard to beat the drop especially if we loose next Sunday. Kerry and dublin away after that. Building a new team will take time, patience will be required and harsh days like this are a given.

222 (UK) - Posts: 900 - 25/01/2026 21:18:21    2653192

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Who exactly where we missing today who isn't a long term injury?

tommyjohn (Monaghan) - Posts: 73 - 25/01/2026 23:40:10    2653226

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Replying To tommyjohn:  "Who exactly where we missing today who isn't a long term injury?"
Ryan Wylie
beggan
Jack Mc carron
Conor Mc carthy
Micheal Mc carville
Tommy Mallon
Max Maguire
Donnacha Connolly
Darragh Murray
Alastair Stewart
Fionan carolan
David Garland
Bobby Mc caul
Michael Hamill
Killian Lavelle
Harvey Colleran
Shane Hanratty

To ans the q...There is probably more....If all was fit and 20s allowed to play, at least 7/8 of the above are starters

monaghanmad (Monaghan) - Posts: 453 - 26/01/2026 10:03:46    2653258

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Replying To tommyjohn:  "Who exactly where we missing today who isn't a long term injury?"
Beggan
McCarthy
McCarville
McCarron
McPhillips
Ryan Wylie
Garland

Also you should have Jones in there, Shane Hanratty and prob a few u20s

We lost O'Connell, Duffy and Hughes from last year.

Missing half your team.

Only positive is we found out who is not good enough

veterngaa (Monaghan) - Posts: 962 - 26/01/2026 10:12:23    2653261

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Listened to GB on northern sound last night. Injuries sound like a horror show five players out in week coming up to game. He sounded pretty resigned to fact he has a v weak hand for league. Only 5 starters yesterday from first game in league last year. Think focus now should be while trying to pick up a win or two in league important for confidence but just as important blooding new players and getting key men fit and back and well for summer football.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1939 - 26/01/2026 10:14:01    2653263

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Replying To Eddie the Exile:  "Conor Leonard did very well at midfield today, Aaron Mulligan was good also."
Cleaned in middle for work rate if truth be told.

farneygael3 (Monaghan) - Posts: 509 - 26/01/2026 10:29:56    2653267

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Replying To monaghanmad:  "Ryan Wylie
beggan
Jack Mc carron
Conor Mc carthy
Micheal Mc carville
Tommy Mallon
Max Maguire
Donnacha Connolly
Darragh Murray
Alastair Stewart
Fionan carolan
David Garland
Bobby Mc caul
Michael Hamill
Killian Lavelle
Harvey Colleran
Shane Hanratty

To ans the q...There is probably more....If all was fit and 20s allowed to play, at least 7/8 of the above are starters"
There's no team in the country with a full deck of cards at any stage of the year never mind January.
Absentees is a fools excuse.
Why is our panel, including normal starters (Mohan, Woods, Wylie, Ward) all look like they haven't the work done?
What I'm afraid of is our talent got us out of div2 and we GB and his backroom have got the preparation for div1 all wrong.

MonaghanMan44life (Monaghan) - Posts: 139 - 26/01/2026 11:20:00    2653276

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Replying To MonaghanMan44life:  "There's no team in the country with a full deck of cards at any stage of the year never mind January.
Absentees is a fools excuse.
Why is our panel, including normal starters (Mohan, Woods, Wylie, Ward) all look like they haven't the work done?
What I'm afraid of is our talent got us out of div2 and we GB and his backroom have got the preparation for div1 all wrong."
2 years ago we all thought we were great beating dublin in the first round of the league...we then went on to have the worst year in recent memory...nothing won or lost on the first night out

still doesnt mean we cant be concerned but realistically i think we all knew this game was going to go the wrong way for us...

However when we do lose badly I feel like we need to question where the heart and grit was? you dont need S&C or all the available players to show some determination

MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 257 - 26/01/2026 12:37:24    2653305

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