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Replying To alalalalalum:  "Still a sizeable chunk of the population who believe what that organisation churns out God bless them"
There are many ways to pick up informed news on what's happening in the world, and in fairness, RTE are pretty fair in their coverage, unlike those two bastions of democratic discourse in your country, Fox and CNN. We should be defending our instruments of democracy really, when you see what autocratic regimes do to the "free press" .

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1956 - 10/12/2025 09:38:02    2647758

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "Trump sued and won against CBS news for altering the Kamala Harris interview, the Media covered for Biden until the so called debate when the whole world saw the truth, they denied the existence of the Hunter Biden laptop, etc so I don't know what media you're talking about. As for dysfunctional in the USA there were 25 Republicans in a recent enough primary and I think 24 Democrats in a recent enough primary yet the Irish President race was very limited and I won't even bother mentioning all the spoiled votes. Wake up."
You seem to be an expert all thingsAmerican, and fair play to you. You probably are American and that's as it should be. But you might read up on the constitutional guidelines governing the selection of candidates for a largely ceremonial role as president of this country. Last time there were many more made it through. Twenty odd runners for each party in primary's is great, as they were for positions as lawmakers. Running for the Dail or county councils here could have many candidates, which is again, as it should be, as the positions are again, for lawmakers and legislation.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1956 - 10/12/2025 09:46:50    2647761

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "Peace processes"
Remind us again, which ones ?

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1956 - 10/12/2025 09:48:57    2647762

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Replying To Freethinker:  "There are many ways to pick up informed news on what's happening in the world, and in fairness, RTE are pretty fair in their coverage, unlike those two bastions of democratic discourse in your country, Fox and CNN. We should be defending our instruments of democracy really, when you see what autocratic regimes do to the "free press" ."
They are fair in which coverage exactly? If you think they are less partisan in their coverage than Fox and CNN I have a hill of beans to sell you.

alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 154 - 10/12/2025 10:24:53    2647766

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "Trump sued and won against CBS news for altering the Kamala Harris interview, the Media covered for Biden until the so called debate when the whole world saw the truth, they denied the existence of the Hunter Biden laptop, etc so I don't know what media you're talking about. As for dysfunctional in the USA there were 25 Republicans in a recent enough primary and I think 24 Democrats in a recent enough primary yet the Irish President race was very limited and I won't even bother mentioning all the spoiled votes. Wake up."
Sorry but your markers for healthy democracy are not relevant. Democracy is a lot more than how many people are on the ballot paper. I don't know what relevance your media references are about either. The point was that even RTE, which has a perception of being on side with the government of the day, is still able to robustly interview government reps, unfortunately not consistently enough, and hold them to account. Altering interviews and whatever partisan angles demonstrates an inept media. In America Trump will only answer questions he's comfortable with and throws personal insults at journalists who ask legitmate uncomfortable questions. So one pillar of democracy, the ability of the media to hold government to account, is not working in America.

On elections, sure there is only ever 2 candidates for the US presidential election! A person who has way more power than our ceremonial president. The Irish one normally has more candiadtes just not this time. For Dail and council elections we have a PRSTV system which is one of the most democratically inclusive voting systems you can have. That has allowed for a wide range of parties, independents and people of varying views. You have two parties in America in a first past the post system. Its an horrendous system which encourages least worst option voting and some districts will never vote a different party. Your point that there was 25 Reps and 24 dems is pointless, sure it's still the same two parties. Add to that constant gerrymandering of voting boundaries. It's like the bloody north under unionist rule.

You also have the office of President which has way too much executive power. No one person in Ireland could hold that much power. Not to mention the ridiculous college vote which stems from the 1700s and allowing states with high rates of slavery to have disproportionate power relative to their white population. You can't run either for Pres in the USA unless you are bankrolled to the gills. The entire American system is antiquated and stuck in the 1700s. They might as well still be going around in breeches and knee high white socks.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 10/12/2025 10:37:01    2647771

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Unfortunatel, FullOfPorter, too many are forming political views from social media news and not the teaditional newspaper, TV and Radio news. They could be bombarded with goodinformation or bad information but algorithms in the background usually want to convince them to buy something.

I think Gavin was finished as soon as FF nominated him. They knew about his tenant issue as did many of the media. They put him in hastily to scupper any chance Bertie Ahern might run. Inexplicably they wouldn't back Billy Kelleher for the nomination. Jim Gavin is a brilliant man but too lacking in charisma and political experience to have been a good candidate. Still seems a lot like a Michael Martin egi trip in Fianna Fáil. I don't understand why he doesn't step aside and let Jim O'Callaghan take on the leadership."
Completely agree on both points re media and the FF selection. Huge mistep for FF, a party candidate like Kelleher or even O'Cuiv would have done very well. MM was way too eager to get a celeb candidate. I think Jim OC as leader would be a good move for FF.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 10/12/2025 10:41:02    2647773

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Replying To Freethinker:  "Remind us again, which ones ?"
Has he not got things settled between Isreal and Palestine compared to mess he inherited?

India and Pakistan agreed to ceasefire

The info is out there if you think freely and not have trump derangement syndrome

As I've said dont like him but just criticising his bad and not calling out things he has done well is not very balanced

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1782 - 10/12/2025 10:57:47    2647776

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Replying To jm25:  "Has he not got things settled between Isreal and Palestine compared to mess he inherited?

India and Pakistan agreed to ceasefire

The info is out there if you think freely and not have trump derangement syndrome

As I've said dont like him but just criticising his bad and not calling out things he has done well is not very balanced"
India and Pakistan, that's all you have? 500 approx killed since ceasefire in Gaza and Israel just biding their time. Russia ploughing ahead. Trump now getting involved in Venezuela because of oil and other natural resources. Iraq mark 2. You accuse others of TDS but yet you don't debate any of the mad stuff or highlight it?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8661 - 10/12/2025 11:53:07    2647787

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "Trump sued and won against CBS news for altering the Kamala Harris interview, the Media covered for Biden until the so called debate when the whole world saw the truth, they denied the existence of the Hunter Biden laptop, etc so I don't know what media you're talking about. As for dysfunctional in the USA there were 25 Republicans in a recent enough primary and I think 24 Democrats in a recent enough primary yet the Irish President race was very limited and I won't even bother mentioning all the spoiled votes. Wake up."
Not sure what your point is on CBS.

So two parties for the primary elections? The same two parties for every presidential race....which you can only enter if you are bankrolled to the gills. Constant gerrymandering of electoral districts. USA is stuck in the 1700s, the same out dated system since the Puritan republic was founded.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 10/12/2025 11:59:00    2647788

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