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Move on now can we it can be changed it is said agree or not it has happened but same few people will play on it cause their own agenda too.
Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 391 - 23/07/2024 23:26:58
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Replying To PattyONeill: "Being right wing doesn't automatically make someone a racist. I slant to the right and yes I was watching the game. Why would you think my political stance would impact the choice of sport I watch?
Regarding the speech, I cringed at it actually, playing up to the American audience with the 'diaspora' carry on. I have quite a number of distant cousins in North America and they are not remotely interested in Irish sport. They have Philadelphia Eagles logos all over their Facebook. Why are we trying to force it on people?
I cringed at the line about the diaspora being here in spirit." well Cringe again!!!
too bad about you
SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 321 - 24/07/2024 08:53:02
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Replying To PattyONeill: "Being right wing doesn't automatically make someone a racist. I slant to the right and yes I was watching the game. Why would you think my political stance would impact the choice of sport I watch?
Regarding the speech, I cringed at it actually, playing up to the American audience with the 'diaspora' carry on. I have quite a number of distant cousins in North America and they are not remotely interested in Irish sport. They have Philadelphia Eagles logos all over their Facebook. Why are we trying to force it on people?
I cringed at the line about the diaspora being here in spirit." You obviously haven't spent much time over the other side of the Atlantic. True sportsmen are not confined to one sport. I have my favourite baseball, football and hockey team, but let me assure you in the days before GAAgo, the Irish American centres all over the States were jammed on big game days with first and second generation as well as the emigrants.
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "You obviously haven't spent much time over the other side of the Atlantic. True sportsmen are not confined to one sport. I have my favourite baseball, football and hockey team, but let me assure you in the days before GAAgo, the Irish American centres all over the States were jammed on big game days with first and second generation as well as the emigrants." According to reports they don't even bother looking at it anymore over there even on GAAGO… that's probably because it's such dire rubbish…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 24/07/2024 14:30:32
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Replying To ORIELMAN85: "You obviously haven't spent much time over the other side of the Atlantic. True sportsmen are not confined to one sport. I have my favourite baseball, football and hockey team, but let me assure you in the days before GAAgo, the Irish American centres all over the States were jammed on big game days with first and second generation as well as the emigrants." It's probably too expensive for him to go..
peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 958 - 24/07/2024 14:50:19
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Replying To PattyONeill: "Being right wing doesn't automatically make someone a racist. I slant to the right and yes I was watching the game. Why would you think my political stance would impact the choice of sport I watch?
Regarding the speech, I cringed at it actually, playing up to the American audience with the 'diaspora' carry on. I have quite a number of distant cousins in North America and they are not remotely interested in Irish sport. They have Philadelphia Eagles logos all over their Facebook. Why are we trying to force it on people?
I cringed at the line about the diaspora being here in spirit." Well, I was in my element listening to it. Every parish is blessed to have a GAA pitch, within a stone's throw for any parishioners who want to play/practice/recreate. I've been involved with teams where fellas had to fly thousands of miles to play a game. The AAGs (Annual Asian Games) happen every year (The China Games, SAGGS, and NAGGs as well) and lads and lassies from Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. fly thousands of miles to be there as players, team management, or just to support. Unless you have been at one, you will never appreciate what Gaelic Games means to the Irish diaspora and vice-versa. If you ever get the chance please try to talk to the likes of Bernard Brogan, Bomber Liston, etc. (unfortunately, the late great Brian Mullins is no longer with us) who have been over to these games, and they'll tell you the amount of work that goes into running a GAA club thousands of miles from Ireland, without a pitch to saunter to a couple of hundred yards down the road; without a pitch at all sometimes. That's the real love of the game. Mullins particularly, and another late great, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, always gave the games the AGGS great respect and attention. MOM's son played with (maybe still does) with Singapore and is hugely instrumental in the club there.
Kerry fans (and those from other counties too) can't make an AI semi-final because of the cost and distance to Croke Park. Jesus wept! The day they have to fork out over $1000 in traveling expenses and fly 3,000-4,000 miles to have a game at all is the day they can come whining to me.
Darwin in West Australia flew a team (both hurling and football) up to Malaysia one year. There's an Aussie lad (Irish parents) based in Kabul who flew for a decade or more to wherever the games were held in Asia. I met him in Shanghai, Singapore, Penang, KL, and Seoul when I was over there. He loved the games and always played like a warrior. He could also recite the history of Ireland, years and dates, better than anyone else I've ever met. I could give hundreds of examples of such extreme efforts by people to play GAA sport.
See, these are the lengths that some people have to go to, to play Gaelic Games and when Jarlath Burns (he was actually over on Jeju Island, Korea earlier this year, helping a quite newly formed GAA club Inis Jeju) acknowledges and appreciates that, all a pampered, and I bet totally useless player in his day if he ever had a day, keyboard warrior can do is cringe.
Keep cringing but we'll keep traveling and we'll keep playing. UP THE DIASPORA! Our day has come.
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Good post foreveryoung. Gives some genuine perspective to the GAA scene worldwide. Well done to Jarlath Burns for his speech which reminded me a little of Joe Connolly's speech many years ago. Those sentiments mean a lot to people who had to emigrate over the years and All Ireland final day to them is special, especially if your home county is involved.
letsgetgoing (Roscommon) - Posts: 612 - 24/07/2024 17:40:01
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Well, I was in my element listening to it. Every parish is blessed to have a GAA pitch, within a stone's throw for any parishioners who want to play/practice/recreate. I've been involved with teams where fellas had to fly thousands of miles to play a game. The AAGs (Annual Asian Games) happen every year (The China Games, SAGGS, and NAGGs as well) and lads and lassies from Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. fly thousands of miles to be there as players, team management, or just to support. Unless you have been at one, you will never appreciate what Gaelic Games means to the Irish diaspora and vice-versa. If you ever get the chance please try to talk to the likes of Bernard Brogan, Bomber Liston, etc. (unfortunately, the late great Brian Mullins is no longer with us) who have been over to these games, and they'll tell you the amount of work that goes into running a GAA club thousands of miles from Ireland, without a pitch to saunter to a couple of hundred yards down the road; without a pitch at all sometimes. That's the real love of the game. Mullins particularly, and another late great, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, always gave the games the AGGS great respect and attention. MOM's son played with (maybe still does) with Singapore and is hugely instrumental in the club there.
Kerry fans (and those from other counties too) can't make an AI semi-final because of the cost and distance to Croke Park. Jesus wept! The day they have to fork out over $1000 in traveling expenses and fly 3,000-4,000 miles to have a game at all is the day they can come whining to me.
Darwin in West Australia flew a team (both hurling and football) up to Malaysia one year. There's an Aussie lad (Irish parents) based in Kabul who flew for a decade or more to wherever the games were held in Asia. I met him in Shanghai, Singapore, Penang, KL, and Seoul when I was over there. He loved the games and always played like a warrior. He could also recite the history of Ireland, years and dates, better than anyone else I've ever met. I could give hundreds of examples of such extreme efforts by people to play GAA sport.
See, these are the lengths that some people have to go to, to play Gaelic Games and when Jarlath Burns (he was actually over on Jeju Island, Korea earlier this year, helping a quite newly formed GAA club Inis Jeju) acknowledges and appreciates that, all a pampered, and I bet totally useless player in his day if he ever had a day, keyboard warrior can do is cringe.
Keep cringing but we'll keep traveling and we'll keep playing. UP THE DIASPORA! Our day has come." For once you have produced a gem Mr Young:-)
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Well, I was in my element listening to it. Every parish is blessed to have a GAA pitch, within a stone's throw for any parishioners who want to play/practice/recreate. I've been involved with teams where fellas had to fly thousands of miles to play a game. The AAGs (Annual Asian Games) happen every year (The China Games, SAGGS, and NAGGs as well) and lads and lassies from Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. fly thousands of miles to be there as players, team management, or just to support. Unless you have been at one, you will never appreciate what Gaelic Games means to the Irish diaspora and vice-versa. If you ever get the chance please try to talk to the likes of Bernard Brogan, Bomber Liston, etc. (unfortunately, the late great Brian Mullins is no longer with us) who have been over to these games, and they'll tell you the amount of work that goes into running a GAA club thousands of miles from Ireland, without a pitch to saunter to a couple of hundred yards down the road; without a pitch at all sometimes. That's the real love of the game. Mullins particularly, and another late great, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, always gave the games the AGGS great respect and attention. MOM's son played with (maybe still does) with Singapore and is hugely instrumental in the club there.
Kerry fans (and those from other counties too) can't make an AI semi-final because of the cost and distance to Croke Park. Jesus wept! The day they have to fork out over $1000 in traveling expenses and fly 3,000-4,000 miles to have a game at all is the day they can come whining to me.
Darwin in West Australia flew a team (both hurling and football) up to Malaysia one year. There's an Aussie lad (Irish parents) based in Kabul who flew for a decade or more to wherever the games were held in Asia. I met him in Shanghai, Singapore, Penang, KL, and Seoul when I was over there. He loved the games and always played like a warrior. He could also recite the history of Ireland, years and dates, better than anyone else I've ever met. I could give hundreds of examples of such extreme efforts by people to play GAA sport.
See, these are the lengths that some people have to go to, to play Gaelic Games and when Jarlath Burns (he was actually over on Jeju Island, Korea earlier this year, helping a quite newly formed GAA club Inis Jeju) acknowledges and appreciates that, all a pampered, and I bet totally useless player in his day if he ever had a day, keyboard warrior can do is cringe.
Keep cringing but we'll keep traveling and we'll keep playing. UP THE DIASPORA! Our day has come." As said … talk is cheap , let's see if he can do more than just that… And travelling on a jolly to the other end of the world to a club in Korea will mean dam all if football is in the same malaise as it's in now when his very well paid term is over…. I am more than willing to give him time as the Job is big but people wetting themselves over a speech after a match is a tad over the top… Get a grip
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 24/07/2024 21:32:34
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Replying To PattyONeill: "Being right wing doesn't automatically make someone a racist. I slant to the right and yes I was watching the game. Why would you think my political stance would impact the choice of sport I watch?
Regarding the speech, I cringed at it actually, playing up to the American audience with the 'diaspora' carry on. I have quite a number of distant cousins in North America and they are not remotely interested in Irish sport. They have Philadelphia Eagles logos all over their Facebook. Why are we trying to force it on people?
I cringed at the line about the diaspora being here in spirit." Couldn't care less if someone is right wing. But conservatives and right wingers have been hijacked by the loopers cheering on Tommy Robinson and cosplaying as American and British nationalist "patriots". If you're a true Irish right winger you'd be disgusted at what is going on with those racists taking over protests
The inmates are in charge if the asylum when it comes to the "genuine concerns about migrants" POV. There is plenty debate to be had but honest folks with those concerns would do well to tell the loopers to eff off completely
I think Burns summed up very well the importance of the diaspora and no harm at all to note how many of them have been welcomed to their new homes over the years. It's a welcome reminder that the vast vast majority of migrants are just ordinary people looking to better themselves
CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 127 - 24/07/2024 22:25:47
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Well, I was in my element listening to it. Every parish is blessed to have a GAA pitch, within a stone's throw for any parishioners who want to play/practice/recreate. I've been involved with teams where fellas had to fly thousands of miles to play a game. The AAGs (Annual Asian Games) happen every year (The China Games, SAGGS, and NAGGs as well) and lads and lassies from Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. fly thousands of miles to be there as players, team management, or just to support. Unless you have been at one, you will never appreciate what Gaelic Games means to the Irish diaspora and vice-versa. If you ever get the chance please try to talk to the likes of Bernard Brogan, Bomber Liston, etc. (unfortunately, the late great Brian Mullins is no longer with us) who have been over to these games, and they'll tell you the amount of work that goes into running a GAA club thousands of miles from Ireland, without a pitch to saunter to a couple of hundred yards down the road; without a pitch at all sometimes. That's the real love of the game. Mullins particularly, and another late great, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, always gave the games the AGGS great respect and attention. MOM's son played with (maybe still does) with Singapore and is hugely instrumental in the club there.
Kerry fans (and those from other counties too) can't make an AI semi-final because of the cost and distance to Croke Park. Jesus wept! The day they have to fork out over $1000 in traveling expenses and fly 3,000-4,000 miles to have a game at all is the day they can come whining to me.
Darwin in West Australia flew a team (both hurling and football) up to Malaysia one year. There's an Aussie lad (Irish parents) based in Kabul who flew for a decade or more to wherever the games were held in Asia. I met him in Shanghai, Singapore, Penang, KL, and Seoul when I was over there. He loved the games and always played like a warrior. He could also recite the history of Ireland, years and dates, better than anyone else I've ever met. I could give hundreds of examples of such extreme efforts by people to play GAA sport.
See, these are the lengths that some people have to go to, to play Gaelic Games and when Jarlath Burns (he was actually over on Jeju Island, Korea earlier this year, helping a quite newly formed GAA club Inis Jeju) acknowledges and appreciates that, all a pampered, and I bet totally useless player in his day if he ever had a day, keyboard warrior can do is cringe.
Keep cringing but we'll keep traveling and we'll keep playing. UP THE DIASPORA! Our day has come." I hear you loud and clear. Great post. The Cringer and Walter Mitty from Cavan are the best example of people who would have us believe that our games are not worthy of support and that everyone knows as little and cares as little as they do. I have wonderful memories of being among first and second generation Donegal, Derry, Armagh and Tyrone men in the USA when they won their first All Irelands and saw first hand what our games meant to the diaspora. Thank you Jarlath Burns for remembering.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 306 - 24/07/2024 23:23:38
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "As said … talk is cheap , let's see if he can do more than just that… And travelling on a jolly to the other end of the world to a club in Korea will mean dam all if football is in the same malaise as it's in now when his very well paid term is over…. I am more than willing to give him time as the Job is big but people wetting themselves over a speech after a match is a tad over the top… Get a grip" Exactly. Why this insatiable need to feel we must promote our games and everything Irish abroad when everything isn't rosey here ?? when the Gaa have essentially culled our games here with this split season resulting in football teams not wanting to win the league as it will cost them the Championship.. A split season that has resulted in the best of club players off to the US... County finals still in late Sept/ Oct as usual?? The hurling wasn't over 24 hrs when the attention turned to the football final.. Surely the hurling deserves more than this? ALL IRELAND finals IN September created some atmosphere in schools.
Anything that comes from abroad be it good or bad with an Irish accent will get media coverage.. Nothing wrong with promotions of games, it's essential but can we please revert to core values and protect the integrity of our game here as it will always be the the origin and reference. Charity begins at home
Inatfullforward (Longford) - Posts: 95 - 25/07/2024 03:06:32
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "As said … talk is cheap , let's see if he can do more than just that… And travelling on a jolly to the other end of the world to a club in Korea will mean dam all if football is in the same malaise as it's in now when his very well paid term is over…. I am more than willing to give him time as the Job is big but people wetting themselves over a speech after a match is a tad over the top… Get a grip" To be fair to Jarlath he set up the FRC and tasked some of the best brains in football to tackle the malaise you have referred to.
What did your own county man achieve during his term? Jarlath has made more of an impact in 5 months than he did in 3 years.
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Replying To peiledoir20: "To be fair to Jarlath he set up the FRC and tasked some of the best brains in football to tackle the malaise you have referred to.
What did your own county man achieve during his term? Jarlath has made more of an impact in 5 months than he did in 3 years." What exactly has he achieved…? Set up a review committee to trial out silly rules that will never work as most would be impossible to implement at club level… As I said talk is cheap…. I will be the first to congratulate him if his actions brings a positive change to our ailing football scene… It a bit soon to be blowing any trumpets on Jarlath's behalf …keep your powder dry son…!
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 25/07/2024 10:23:51
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Dion fanning has a piece about the speech in the Indo today lol
Kew (Galway) - Posts: 81 - 25/07/2024 13:18:44
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Replying To foreveryoung: "Well, I was in my element listening to it. Every parish is blessed to have a GAA pitch, within a stone's throw for any parishioners who want to play/practice/recreate. I've been involved with teams where fellas had to fly thousands of miles to play a game. The AAGs (Annual Asian Games) happen every year (The China Games, SAGGS, and NAGGs as well) and lads and lassies from Korea, Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Vietnam, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Taiwan, Indonesia, etc. fly thousands of miles to be there as players, team management, or just to support. Unless you have been at one, you will never appreciate what Gaelic Games means to the Irish diaspora and vice-versa. If you ever get the chance please try to talk to the likes of Bernard Brogan, Bomber Liston, etc. (unfortunately, the late great Brian Mullins is no longer with us) who have been over to these games, and they'll tell you the amount of work that goes into running a GAA club thousands of miles from Ireland, without a pitch to saunter to a couple of hundred yards down the road; without a pitch at all sometimes. That's the real love of the game. Mullins particularly, and another late great, Mícheál Ó Muircheartaigh, always gave the games the AGGS great respect and attention. MOM's son played with (maybe still does) with Singapore and is hugely instrumental in the club there.
Kerry fans (and those from other counties too) can't make an AI semi-final because of the cost and distance to Croke Park. Jesus wept! The day they have to fork out over $1000 in traveling expenses and fly 3,000-4,000 miles to have a game at all is the day they can come whining to me.
Darwin in West Australia flew a team (both hurling and football) up to Malaysia one year. There's an Aussie lad (Irish parents) based in Kabul who flew for a decade or more to wherever the games were held in Asia. I met him in Shanghai, Singapore, Penang, KL, and Seoul when I was over there. He loved the games and always played like a warrior. He could also recite the history of Ireland, years and dates, better than anyone else I've ever met. I could give hundreds of examples of such extreme efforts by people to play GAA sport.
See, these are the lengths that some people have to go to, to play Gaelic Games and when Jarlath Burns (he was actually over on Jeju Island, Korea earlier this year, helping a quite newly formed GAA club Inis Jeju) acknowledges and appreciates that, all a pampered, and I bet totally useless player in his day if he ever had a day, keyboard warrior can do is cringe.
Keep cringing but we'll keep traveling and we'll keep playing. UP THE DIASPORA! Our day has come." We need the diaspora to come home, help rejuvenate areas in rural Ireland that are blighted with emigration and help our clubs from not having to amalgamate.
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "What exactly has he achieved…? Set up a review committee to trial out silly rules that will never work as most would be impossible to implement at club level… As I said talk is cheap…. I will be the first to congratulate him if his actions brings a positive change to our ailing football scene… It a bit soon to be blowing any trumpets on Jarlath's behalf …keep your powder dry son…!" You didn't answer my question, what did your own county man achieve during his FULL term? I seem to remember going on plenty of jollys, not much else though.
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Replying To peiledoir20: "You didn't answer my question, what did your own county man achieve during his FULL term? I seem to remember going on plenty of jollys, not much else though." He achieved very little if anything… the exact same as Burns to date but in fairness he has just started in the job… The one thing that he did do was at a trophy presentation he got on with it and made sure it was all about the teams on the day.. He kept things short and sweet and didn't make it about himself by waffling on ….. Jarlath is a good man to talk the talk but can he walk the walk….. time will tell
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 2680 - 25/07/2024 15:34:28
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "As said … talk is cheap , let's see if he can do more than just that… And travelling on a jolly to the other end of the world to a club in Korea will mean dam all if football is in the same malaise as it's in now when his very well paid term is over…. I am more than willing to give him time as the Job is big but people wetting themselves over a speech after a match is a tad over the top… Get a grip" You're right when you say talk is cheap. Your posts prove that beyond dispute.
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "He achieved very little if anything… the exact same as Burns to date but in fairness he has just started in the job… The one thing that he did do was at a trophy presentation he got on with it and made sure it was all about the teams on the day.. He kept things short and sweet and didn't make it about himself by waffling on ….. Jarlath is a good man to talk the talk but can he walk the walk….. time will tell" True. Funny how a lot of people will be interested in what he will say now. Has that ever been the case with a GAA president before? Its the Last game of the season will he come out with something outrageous to make headlines?
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