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Yeah I agree that a team as good as Kerry can work around it, but I suppose my thinking would be that if we improved our midfield contest and got our hands on enough ball, would we engineer enough scores the other way and the zone just does enough? probably a somewhere in the middle really because I don't see McGuinness moving away from the zone or tearing up the script next year. if McGonagle sat at 6 and another type like him who is mobile and covers the ground well, along with McCole, and you probably have a good mix of that type of defender and then the zonal system as well? my concern now is really around the midfield. Jason was fit enough to be on the bench towards the end of the season but didn't complete a 70 minutes all season did he? Has he got that in him with his hip problems or is it a max amount of time he can give on the pitch and that's why he only played a half v Louth and bench appearances since then? Can we rely on him coming back and flying it like he was last year for example. Hughie is another year on and was brilliant this year, but again has he 70+ in him? So we're asking Langan and Thompson around the middle but we need a spoiler type and another bit of badness around there in my view. I'm a big fan of McGonagle but think his best position is 6 and don't reallly want to move him from there to be honest. CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 274 - 01/08/2025 11:33:04 2629629 Link 0 |
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Ok, well I get your logic, but I think the issue was with the outfield players, not Patton. If you watch out the field when Patton is about to kick out, he looks around for a hand signal, different players hand signal to him to show they are open or space near them is open and he kicks then. A lot of players didn't signal until it was too late, he was scanning the field before lining up his kick and numerous times I could see that nobody was signalling, Eventually a few of them would signal, but by then it was too late."]A point I always thought was interesting was from Jim Gavin's training sessions. The dubs used to play A versus B in the buildup to a big game at Croke Park, but they weren't allowed to talk during the session, with the point being that you won't be able to hear each other on All Ireland final day so you need to be able to read your team mates body language etc"]That's an interesting one, never heard that before. Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1452 - 01/08/2025 11:38:54 2629632 Link 0 |
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I agree with you. Our zonal defence worked well all year, it shouldn't be totally abandoned because of one bad game. The main problem against Kerry was that we lost every kickout in the first half and we had no possession. I think we all agree that we don't have man-to-man markers in the county so McGuinness plays a zonal system. The full forward were good on Sunday, got scores with very little ball. With the new rules the midfield battle at kickouts is going to determine most games.
Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1930 - 01/08/2025 12:17:55 2629641 Link 0 |
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He's the best player I've ever seen but Jesus Christ this "9 points" talk is a little anoying. He scored 3 two pointers and one of them was at the footer and had nothing to do with McCole. It's very difficult to defend against players who can hit them. He also got a handy 1 pointer from a mistake that wasn't on McCole. In truth he had 6 points in old currency and 3 of which were from long range. Not like he broke free and roasted McCole. Prime Neil McGee would have struggled against him too. It's not like Clifford scored 9 shots. It was 6. Still an amazing performance but come on. For the record, I like the 2 point rule but in no way should it be given for frees beyond the arc. It's much more difficult to hit it from play then a placed ball or a free with the ball in your hands. Already buzzing for next season. Hope Jim gets everyone to commit back next year and he finds a gem or two during the club championship. We're as good as anyone but need to keep that confidence going in to next year. eddieSize5Balls (Donegal) - Posts: 227 - 01/08/2025 16:05:13 2629672 Link 0 |
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Possession from kickouts and breaking ball is a bit of a lottery.Kerry cleaned up in the first half but against Tyrone they won very little but they really walked through Tyrones man marking and were unlucky not to have 6 or 7 goals,I don't think a team will dominate midfield 2 days in a row.
gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1188 - 01/08/2025 16:40:39 2629681 Link 0 |
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You would have expected that Mogan,Roarty,McHugh,Moore,Langan ,McGee,Thompson and McBrearty would have landed about 8 points between them but nothing. gunman (Donegal) - Posts: 1188 - 01/08/2025 16:52:08 2629683 Link 0 |