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Replying To Magpie2:  "Totally irrelevant. I neither hate the English or love them. We are talking about sport. Cheering for France was daft and shows that certain people store bitterness and hatred in their hearts.
It has to be remembered that atrocities were performed by all sides, IRA, Loyalists and British soldiers. Thankfully the dreadful violence ended many years ago and now there is peace.
The bottom line is that if England won we would be six nations champions. To cheer for France means you would be wishing ireland to finish second.
How stupid is that.
High time to Bury the dreaded hatchet."
Grow up, cheering for France means not cheering for England. So if we cheered for England does that mean we hate France? On the killings in the North you mention IRA first just like media outlets. Blind eye took from you to IRA killings back in 1916 and you got your peace, the North didn't. Three important letters, ABE.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2579 - 15/03/2026 18:17:17    2661327

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Replying To Magpie2:  "In the pub I was in there were loud cheers every time England scored.
It's not that they have a love of the English.
It's simply a matter of wanting Ireland to be six nations champions. It's not rocket science."
The boys of Wexford aren't what they once were.

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3764 - 15/03/2026 19:09:04    2661352

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Totally irrelevant. I neither hate the English or love them. We are talking about sport. Cheering for France was daft and shows that certain people store bitterness and hatred in their hearts.
It has to be remembered that atrocities were performed by all sides, IRA, Loyalists and British soldiers. Thankfully the dreadful violence ended many years ago and now there is peace.
The bottom line is that if England won we would be six nations champions. To cheer for France means you would be wishing ireland to finish second.
How stupid is that.
High time to Bury the dreaded hatchet."
Very relevant.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8477 - 15/03/2026 19:13:14    2661353

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The boys of Wexford aren't what they once were."
They'd do well in Vinegar Hill.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2579 - 15/03/2026 21:20:09    2661376

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The smart play yesterday was to hope France vs England was a draw.

That would have guaranteed both a championship title for Ireland and England's lowest ever finish in the 6N

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 162 - 15/03/2026 21:39:55    2661383

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The boys of Wexford aren't what they once were."
I think people overestimate the "we" business when it comes to rugby!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4079 - 15/03/2026 21:45:10    2661384

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Replying To Saynothing:  "No right minded Irishman cheers on England, if they beat France so be it but don't cheer them on."
Nonsense. every right minded irish man cheers on england if it is a better result for Ireland than a win for englands opponent.

KillingFields (Limerick) - Posts: 3950 - 15/03/2026 21:55:31    2661387

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Nonsense. every right minded irish man cheers on england if it is a better result for Ireland than a win for englands opponent."
Definitely not, perfect Saturday for Ireland, Ireland win Triple Crown and England beat, and with the last kick of the game makes it even better. They can stick their swing lows.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2579 - 15/03/2026 22:51:59    2661396

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Grow up, cheering for France means not cheering for England. So if we cheered for England does that mean we hate France? On the killings in the North you mention IRA first just like media outlets. Blind eye took from you to IRA killings back in 1916 and you got your peace, the North didn't. Three important letters, ABE."
Ha, telling other people to grow up. Nobody
hates France by hoping England win and we get the big prize. Simple as.
Or is that beyond your understanding
Normally it's customery for us to cheer on other teams playing against the old enemy.
Personally I don't. It's not because I like them. It's because I don't believe in harbouring old antiquated memories of the past.
The three organisations I mentioned as carrying out atrocities were listed by me in no particular order. I could have named them in reverse just as easily. Violence is barbaric and criminal no matter who carrys it out. Families have been destroyed by all sides during the awful conflict.
It aways amuses me to see Irish guys getting emotional and upset when " their team" get beaten. I'm talking about Man united, Liverpool? Chelsea, Man City or Spurs . All of those are English teams with some English born players.
Then come the internationals and the same guys will be screaming for any team that the English are up against. I fail to understand the logic in that.
Perhaps their is a need for people with narrow minds to GROW UP.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 16/03/2026 00:14:22    2661405

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Nonsense. every right minded irish man cheers on england if it is a better result for Ireland than a win for englands opponent."
It was doubly pleasurable. England and West England beaten in one glorious kick worthy of the Pope Keaveney.

Allez les Bleus.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 4079 - 16/03/2026 01:25:45    2661409

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Ha, telling other people to grow up. Nobody
hates France by hoping England win and we get the big prize. Simple as.
Or is that beyond your understanding
Normally it's customery for us to cheer on other teams playing against the old enemy.
Personally I don't. It's not because I like them. It's because I don't believe in harbouring old antiquated memories of the past.
The three organisations I mentioned as carrying out atrocities were listed by me in no particular order. I could have named them in reverse just as easily. Violence is barbaric and criminal no matter who carrys it out. Families have been destroyed by all sides during the awful conflict.
It aways amuses me to see Irish guys getting emotional and upset when " their team" get beaten. I'm talking about Man united, Liverpool? Chelsea, Man City or Spurs . All of those are English teams with some English born players.
Then come the internationals and the same guys will be screaming for any team that the English are up against. I fail to understand the logic in that.
Perhaps their is a need for people with narrow minds to GROW UP."
It's not beyond anyone's understanding that if Ireland were good enough to win the " Big Prize" they would have beat France on the first weekend. Simply really and not hard to understand. As for your foreign game over the water, I'll watch but makes no difference to me who wins. Give me Carlow v Fermanagh any day compared to that other rubbish.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2579 - 16/03/2026 10:11:33    2661437

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Replying To KillingFields:  "Nonsense. every right minded irish man cheers on england if it is a better result for Ireland than a win for englands opponent."
100% correct killingfields.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 643 - 16/03/2026 11:20:39    2661452

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "The boys of Wexford aren't what they once were."
I wouldn't consider that attitude to be typical.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4324 - 16/03/2026 18:40:59    2661523

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Ha, telling other people to grow up. Nobody
hates France by hoping England win and we get the big prize. Simple as.
Or is that beyond your understanding
Normally it's customery for us to cheer on other teams playing against the old enemy.
Personally I don't. It's not because I like them. It's because I don't believe in harbouring old antiquated memories of the past.
The three organisations I mentioned as carrying out atrocities were listed by me in no particular order. I could have named them in reverse just as easily. Violence is barbaric and criminal no matter who carrys it out. Families have been destroyed by all sides during the awful conflict.
It aways amuses me to see Irish guys getting emotional and upset when " their team" get beaten. I'm talking about Man united, Liverpool? Chelsea, Man City or Spurs . All of those are English teams with some English born players.
Then come the internationals and the same guys will be screaming for any team that the English are up against. I fail to understand the logic in that.
Perhaps their is a need for people with narrow minds to GROW UP."
Out of all the nations who suffered atrocities and genocide at the hands of their neighbours I'd argue we're probably the least bitter. You can move on and still not forgotten.

There's a big difference between a working class sport and a traditionally aristocratic one.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4324 - 16/03/2026 18:44:54    2661524

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For all the experts on here that seem to know everything about world politics from Greenland to Gaza to Iran, etc etc.
and in the MSM current affairs progs on tv and radio, I never heard any mention that the price of oil was going to go crazy if they attacked Iran.
Now I know that should be obvious but a wee heads up would have helped,
or maybe the know it alls don't really know that much?

Tirchonaill1 (Donegal) - Posts: 3764 - 18/03/2026 12:35:51    2661670

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "For all the experts on here that seem to know everything about world politics from Greenland to Gaza to Iran, etc etc.
and in the MSM current affairs progs on tv and radio, I never heard any mention that the price of oil was going to go crazy if they attacked Iran.
Now I know that should be obvious but a wee heads up would have helped,
or maybe the know it alls don't really know that much?"
I am only hoping you are joking.

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8796 - 18/03/2026 13:01:44    2661675

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "For all the experts on here that seem to know everything about world politics from Greenland to Gaza to Iran, etc etc.
and in the MSM current affairs progs on tv and radio, I never heard any mention that the price of oil was going to go crazy if they attacked Iran.
Now I know that should be obvious but a wee heads up would have helped,
or maybe the know it alls don't really know that much?"
Surely the President of the self proclaimed most powerful country in the world would have had advisors to help him with that kind of thing? As well informed as some posters on this forum are, Im pretty sure Trump doesn't start wars based on what anyone on this forum thinks or knows.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18774 - 18/03/2026 14:19:26    2661690

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Replying To Tirchonaill1:  "For all the experts on here that seem to know everything about world politics from Greenland to Gaza to Iran, etc etc.
and in the MSM current affairs progs on tv and radio, I never heard any mention that the price of oil was going to go crazy if they attacked Iran.
Now I know that should be obvious but a wee heads up would have helped,
or maybe the know it alls don't really know that much?"
Not sure where this is coming from but I would have thought that anyone who has been watching the Middle East over the last number of years would have been aware that the Straits of Hormuz was a vulnerable stretch of water if Iran decided to close it. Perhaps this criticism should be levelled at POTUS, his goons and Mr Netanyahu.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2145 - 18/03/2026 14:29:27    2661695

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