Replying To Pikeman96: "Hmmm. "With discretion" appears to mean "not obeying the Rule Book".
The Rule Book makes provision for exceptions to certain things, e.g. to allow counties make their own bye-laws on size of the playing area and size of the goals up to U15 level. That's how Monaghan apparently play with small goals on the 13m line at U14 level.
But it doesn't allow counties make exceptions to playing rules like the solo and go, the four back/three up rule, or the kick-out having to travel past the 40m arc if a full-sized pitch is being used.
Seems underage football wasn't being played properly under the Rules in certain counties this year. I'd say certain people would feel that matters all right."
As far as I know the only major difference/exemption for u14s as regards the new rules was that the keeper could take kickouts from his hands instead of off a tee?
I hear the the hurling rules committee (i didn't know one existed) are formulating a proposal for congress to bring the dissent sanctions from football into hurling. I think this is good and maybe it's the start of some sort of realisation that the game of hurling isn't perfect when it comes to dissent and cynicism and the 'dark Arts'. I heard a stat that since the introduction of the new rules in football that the number of cards issued (both Red and yellow) has fallen by over 50% and that in adult club championships across the country the number of Cards issued in Hurling is approx twice what it is in Football.
Replying To indaknownow: "I hear the the hurling rules committee (i didn't know one existed) are formulating a proposal for congress to bring the dissent sanctions from football into hurling. I think this is good and maybe it's the start of some sort of realisation that the game of hurling isn't perfect when it comes to dissent and cynicism and the 'dark Arts'. I heard a stat that since the introduction of the new rules in football that the number of cards issued (both Red and yellow) has fallen by over 50% and that in adult club championships across the country the number of Cards issued in Hurling is approx twice what it is in Football."
That's in line with what has been mentioned in Galway too. Many dual refs are calling for it too, as they're saying the abuse at hurling matches is far worse than at football now.
I always find it strange how adults want kids to play like adults. Yes some of the better kids do fine, but the rules should be tailored to those playing it.
For instance, In GO Games, the no of solos are restricted to encourage kids to pass. If we want a game that is focused on kick passing, why not continue the principle of Go Games, which forces a certain type of behavior.
For me, keeping a restriction on the no of solos/bounces up to minor is easy to implement and will be easy for kids to follow as they wont have known anything different.
For a county like Mayo, which has such a fascination with the solo run, they would be far better off to restrict its use at all underage games, as well as a restriction on the hand pass.
Who gives a toss if they never won a U16 county match - as long as they were producing 100's of players who had learned to look up for space and could easily kick 30-40m passes into that space. Then let them off to some mad defensive U20/senior coach to try and knock it out them
I ref the off go games match and you hear coaches giving out to 7yr olds for kick long passes inaccurately, demanding they hand pass it. Drives me daft. I would be praising them for trying and tell them to ignore that coach.
Replying To tirawleybaron: "I always find it strange how adults want kids to play like adults. Yes some of the better kids do fine, but the rules should be tailored to those playing it.
For instance, In GO Games, the no of solos are restricted to encourage kids to pass. If we want a game that is focused on kick passing, why not continue the principle of Go Games, which forces a certain type of behavior.
For me, keeping a restriction on the no of solos/bounces up to minor is easy to implement and will be easy for kids to follow as they wont have known anything different.
For a county like Mayo, which has such a fascination with the solo run, they would be far better off to restrict its use at all underage games, as well as a restriction on the hand pass.
Who gives a toss if they never won a U16 county match - as long as they were producing 100's of players who had learned to look up for space and could easily kick 30-40m passes into that space. Then let them off to some mad defensive U20/senior coach to try and knock it out them
I ref the off go games match and you hear coaches giving out to 7yr olds for kick long passes inaccurately, demanding they hand pass it. Drives me daft. I would be praising them for trying and tell them to ignore that coach."
Possession is king in pretty much most sports these days. While you have the ball you might score, while if they don't have the ball your opponents won't. I agree it's made most sports more boring to watch.
I see that there are motions infront of Wexford County convention to bring the rules for dissent (ball advanced 30m and black card) and the breaches of discipline by team officials (free on 20m line) from football into hurling for underage. i note this is actually being proposed by the referee committee. ho knew referees actually think about rules!! Joking aside i think its a good move. I think the Hurling review committee proposals will probably trump it but its good to see someone thinking positively on these.
Replying To indaknownow: "I see that there are motions infront of Wexford County convention to bring the rules for dissent (ball advanced 30m and black card) and the breaches of discipline by team officials (free on 20m line) from football into hurling for underage. i note this is actually being proposed by the referee committee. ho knew referees actually think about rules!! Joking aside i think its a good move. I think the Hurling review committee proposals will probably trump it but its good to see someone thinking positively on these."
Saw that myself. Wexford won't actually be able to bring in those rules themselves and all they can do is pass them up the line to Congress for when playing rules are being amended again, but I do think it's only a matter of time before hurling gets those same sort of rules as football anyway. They've largely stamped out dissent in football and the same is needed in hurling. And yes, good to see it coming from the referees themselves.
Replying To indaknownow: "I see that there are motions infront of Wexford County convention to bring the rules for dissent (ball advanced 30m and black card) and the breaches of discipline by team officials (free on 20m line) from football into hurling for underage. i note this is actually being proposed by the referee committee. ho knew referees actually think about rules!! Joking aside i think its a good move. I think the Hurling review committee proposals will probably trump it but its good to see someone thinking positively on these."