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Replying To KillingFields:  "i was talking about swimming if you read my post. lots of people go to the pool regularly and swim regularly but have never been competitive in any form of organised swimming event, been member of a club be it a masters club(masters is what swimming clubs for adults are called)"
Masters as in oul lads?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2611 - 25/11/2025 13:16:26    2646014

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I don't know. Dancing can be a pretty big deal for girls. In terms of participation for kids I'd say it's much bigger than rugby. There's one rugby club in Wexford town and there's about 20 dance groups. My daughter is in to ballet and has gotten herself in serious shape. Having said that I think she'd be horrified if somebody referred to it as sport."
And your last line proves the very point I was making.

Just as I'm sure far more people go swimming regularly than play rugby regularly, I'm sure far more people are involved in dancing than in rugby. Especially if you consider traditional Irish dancing, ballet, hip hop, ballroom dancing, jive, and every other type of dancing too.

But how many people regard a Feis or a ballroom dancing competition as a sports event?

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3255 - 25/11/2025 22:22:39    2646078

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I don't know. Dancing can be a pretty big deal for girls. In terms of participation for kids I'd say it's much bigger than rugby. There's one rugby club in Wexford town and there's about 20 dance groups. My daughter is in to ballet and has gotten herself in serious shape. Having said that I think she'd be horrified if somebody referred to it as sport."
Yes but where are all the Hurling clubs in Wexford Town. One is a Junior B so hard to say that makes much of a difference and then the powerhouse that have won 5 senior hurling championships the last one in 2001. I wouldn't be using Hurling in Wexford Town as an example. However I don't understand why you seem so focused on rugby. Yes its perhaps the third most popular team sport in you include all the Gaelic Games activities into one, its an international sport that is far more popular in other countries with bigger playing populations but yet we have shown that we can be competitive if not better than those teams, which as a country we should all be proud of. Is there something wrong with that?
Where the GAA should be focused on is what the stats tells them about what they could do better. There were a few obvious ones in the report if you cared to pick them out.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2125 - 26/11/2025 01:29:38    2646085

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Replying To zinny:  "Yes but where are all the Hurling clubs in Wexford Town. One is a Junior B so hard to say that makes much of a difference and then the powerhouse that have won 5 senior hurling championships the last one in 2001. I wouldn't be using Hurling in Wexford Town as an example. However I don't understand why you seem so focused on rugby. Yes its perhaps the third most popular team sport in you include all the Gaelic Games activities into one, its an international sport that is far more popular in other countries with bigger playing populations but yet we have shown that we can be competitive if not better than those teams, which as a country we should all be proud of. Is there something wrong with that?
Where the GAA should be focused on is what the stats tells them about what they could do better. There were a few obvious ones in the report if you cared to pick them out."
Harriers, clonard, shells Martin's and Glynn barntown are all town clubs :)

In all seriousness though, we're not talking about winning trophies, we're talking about participation. Go to pairc Garman on a Sunday morning and see what numbers are like. Around 100 at each age group, this is a significant operation by comparison to Wexford wanderers. That's without considering sars, vols, marys, Joseph's, North end, Albion, Wexford Celtic.

You also shouldn't diminish the contributions of chinner, Richie kehoe, Larry O, hopper McGrath etc. Either

I have no issue with the sport of rugby. It just irritates me that it's over represented in national media.

If you look at my original post you'll see I took issue with a rugby friendly getting more media attention than an incredible few days in an international soccer tournament.

Rugby in Ireland is a minority sport, as it is globally with a couple of notable exceptions. The media behave as if it is all things to all people. Fundamentally this is dishonest.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4052 - 26/11/2025 09:20:46    2646092

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@doylerwex - in an attempt to put this to bed, and looking at this line of your last post:
If you look at my original post you'll see I took issue with a rugby friendly getting more media attention than an incredible few days in an international soccer tournament.

I've had a look at that original post. It's from 6.07 p.m. on Thursday November 20 and says you were listening to the sports news right then.

Two things that afternoon:
- The World Cup playoff draw, where at about 12.30, Ireland were drawn to play Czechia. Would already have been covered in depth all afternoon long and seems was still the top item in the news bulletin you were listening to.
- Ireland rugby team to play South Africa was named a few hours later (story appeared on the RTE website just after 4 p.m.).

So, seems the 6 p.m. news still led with the 'old' news that anyone interested in must surely have heard by then anyway, before moving on to the other main Irish sports news of the afternoon.

And I'd wager any money that if you added up all the column inches and broadcast minutes over that week, you'll find that the "incredible few days in an international soccer tournament" actually did get far more media attention than "a rugby friendly".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3255 - 26/11/2025 10:10:32    2646098

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Harriers, clonard, shells Martin's and Glynn barntown are all town clubs :)

In all seriousness though, we're not talking about winning trophies, we're talking about participation. Go to pairc Garman on a Sunday morning and see what numbers are like. Around 100 at each age group, this is a significant operation by comparison to Wexford wanderers. That's without considering sars, vols, marys, Joseph's, North end, Albion, Wexford Celtic.

You also shouldn't diminish the contributions of chinner, Richie kehoe, Larry O, hopper McGrath etc. Either

I have no issue with the sport of rugby. It just irritates me that it's over represented in national media.

If you look at my original post you'll see I took issue with a rugby friendly getting more media attention than an incredible few days in an international soccer tournament.

Rugby in Ireland is a minority sport, as it is globally with a couple of notable exceptions. The media behave as if it is all things to all people. Fundamentally this is dishonest."
In 2024 six of the top viewed programs on TV were rugby games - nobody could beat the toy show! So while playing number are not as high as other sports the reality is the sport is popular and is in demand by the public hence the TV coverage it gets. Its hard to argue with the commercial reality of the Rugby coverage given the soccer team won't be seen until next March and rugby had a game coming up that weekend. That's just the commercial reality of TV.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2125 - 26/11/2025 10:17:34    2646102

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Harriers, clonard, shells Martin's and Glynn barntown are all town clubs :)

In all seriousness though, we're not talking about winning trophies, we're talking about participation. Go to pairc Garman on a Sunday morning and see what numbers are like. Around 100 at each age group, this is a significant operation by comparison to Wexford wanderers. That's without considering sars, vols, marys, Joseph's, North end, Albion, Wexford Celtic.

You also shouldn't diminish the contributions of chinner, Richie kehoe, Larry O, hopper McGrath etc. Either

I have no issue with the sport of rugby. It just irritates me that it's over represented in national media.

If you look at my original post you'll see I took issue with a rugby friendly getting more media attention than an incredible few days in an international soccer tournament.

Rugby in Ireland is a minority sport, as it is globally with a couple of notable exceptions. The media behave as if it is all things to all people. Fundamentally this is dishonest."
I get that like many friends of mine in town you like soccer, and I get that rugbys a minority sport in Ireland too. But the reason the media spend so much time on it is that it is the team sport played internationally that we have been consistently best at this millennium.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17614 - 26/11/2025 10:30:46    2646103

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