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Replying To Fionn:  "I think you are missing the point - Kobe is a generational talent...

At this rate every county that produces a talent like this, will lose them to AFL..."
He has potential. He's not even an adult. How can he be a generational talent?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8321 - 04/11/2025 09:39:14    2642919

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Replying To Fionn:  "I think you are missing the point - Kobe is a generational talent...

At this rate every county that produces a talent like this, will lose them to AFL..."
Not really cavanagh Murphy Walsh mcshane Clifford all turned it down.

Kilkenny mcdaid came back after trying it out.

Very few are good enough to make it as there's so many Aussies lads who played since a young age less risk then signing Irish kids

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1728 - 04/11/2025 09:44:48    2642921

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Replying To jm25:  "No he isn't Clifford was scoring 4-4 in all Ireland minor finals at that age and far more developed

He is an outstanding talent but still very young

Michael Meehan was better at that age and he ended up not hitting heights expected of him in senior IC

What happened that archer chap who played underage for Dublin must be mid 20s now and not come through"
It is terrible what has happened to Ciaran.

He got hit with a proposed 96 week ban which was later correctly overturned.

He seems to have just lost the Grá for the game now which is very sad to see.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/former-dublin-star-ciaran-archer-has-proposed-96-week-ban-overturned/a200451781.html

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4715 - 04/11/2025 10:05:49    2642927

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Why is no one upset about GAA players who have defected to professional soccer and professional rugby?

Kevin Moran, Niall Quinn, Shane Long, Cillian Sheridan, Packie Bonner, Daryl Horgan, Rob Kearney, Tommy Bowe, Tadhg Furlong, Robbie Henshaw, Conor Murray, Shane Horgan, Simon Zebo, David Meyler, etc"
One could argue that most Irish people who excel at any sport outside of the GAA will at some point have their "GAA background" brought up.
I'd say a very high percentage of Irish people with any sporting ability will have at some stage played GAA. That doesn't necessarily mean they are "lost to other sports".

streaker (Galway) - Posts: 564 - 04/11/2025 10:17:43    2642928

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Replying To Aibrean:  "Why is no one upset about GAA players who have defected to professional soccer and professional rugby?

Kevin Moran, Niall Quinn, Shane Long, Cillian Sheridan, Packie Bonner, Daryl Horgan, Rob Kearney, Tommy Bowe, Tadhg Furlong, Robbie Henshaw, Conor Murray, Shane Horgan, Simon Zebo, David Meyler, etc"
Hunts x 2, Doyle

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17375 - 04/11/2025 10:56:03    2642939

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Replying To alalalalalum:  "Another way to look at it is if this drip drip of top young lads to Australia continues then semi pro or full pro gaelic football players in Ireland are inevitable in order to stop the drain. It is the only way it might be stopped."
And what are you going to do about the lifestyle, and weather here, and other reasons lads go to play AFL?

WE CANT AFFORD TO GO PRO OR SEMI PRO. We can barely afford to stay going as we are as an amateur(ish) organisation.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17375 - 04/11/2025 10:58:46    2642940

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Replying To alalalalalum:  "56,000 players....how many of those are genuinely elite that you'd pay to go watch."
I pay to watch games every weekend. And watch plenty more for free. Its nonsense to put that young lad up with lads at a level he's only aspiring to right now. Talk about heaping pressure on a chap.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17375 - 04/11/2025 11:01:38    2642941

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Replying To Viking66:  "I pay to watch games every weekend. And watch plenty more for free. Its nonsense to put that young lad up with lads at a level he's only aspiring to right now. Talk about heaping pressure on a chap."
In fairness - I think Kobe is the real deal.

I saw him a few years ago and he was even exceptional then.

Let him enjoy his stint in Aus and hopefully he returns at some stage.
You cant blame him for taking this opportunity but I do hope we all see him grace Croke Park in the future.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4715 - 04/11/2025 11:36:07    2642952

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We talk about players as if we own them or should have some say in their careers whether on or off the pitch. We don't. We don't own them. We should have absolutely no say in their life choices. The GAA doesn't pay them and at the end of the day they have to carve out a career off the pitch as well. Amateurs that are expected to behave like professionals. They're under enough scrutiny from the zealots without having to deal with guilt trips because they put themselves first.
With all due respect to Mayo contributors, I would say that if he ever plays senior with Mayo the experience of getting out of Mayo will have stood to him. Again, I mean absolutely no disrespect. Getting away from that scrutiny and the pressure will benefit him and possibly Mayo in the long run.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 261 - 04/11/2025 11:42:16    2642954

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I suppose it doesn't really matter that much but he'll win very little titles with St Kilda. One premiership in 152 years of existence isnt too hectic

alalalalalum (USA) - Posts: 64 - 04/11/2025 14:07:53    2642983

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