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Replying To Fitzy01: "I thought the same, it was all on the line they should have been ravenous. I'm sure the committment and honesty from the players is top notch but something is not quite clicking at underage for us for a number of years and it needs to be identified and addressed quickly. Are the underage players now getting the same levels of meticulous coaching and conditioning that their counterparts were getting in the last 5 to 10 years. Something seems to have shifted" In my opinion they were a poorly prepared and selected team. There are only 4 or 5 on the age too which just isnt enough.
I saw all three games and I saw no real pattern of play or structure to what they are trying to do. They were dominated in the middle third in all 3 games and the opposition full forward did as he pleased in all 3 games. The positioning of the seniors leaves a lot to be desired also.
I think the people in charge need to seriously look at who they are putting in charge of our underage teams. There is a significant issue there.
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Gillane is a huge loss. Just when we looked like everybody was back and fit. He always went well v Cork
Apart from Quaid I cant think of a more important cog for us, and one thats harder to replace
I dont see any like for like replacement (apart from one man not in the squad) and a huge responsibility now on the Bull and AOC for sure now taking the frees
Any one of Casey, Tom (if match fit), plus DOD to come in with a bit of a shuffle. Casey probably the favourite playing inside
This also lessens our potential bench impact
Knowing our brains trust this will be presented as a challenge to be embraced and an even greater need for complete focus
Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 239 - 24/04/2026 12:18:49
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Replying To Yadse: "Gillane is a huge loss. Just when we looked like everybody was back and fit. He always went well v Cork
Apart from Quaid I cant think of a more important cog for us, and one thats harder to replace
I dont see any like for like replacement (apart from one man not in the squad) and a huge responsibility now on the Bull and AOC for sure now taking the frees
Any one of Casey, Tom (if match fit), plus DOD to come in with a bit of a shuffle. Casey probably the favourite playing inside
This also lessens our potential bench impact
Knowing our brains trust this will be presented as a challenge to be embraced and an even greater need for complete focus" This is a huge test for the bull and AOC. Both were very poor in the league final and that was in a dominant team. This is going to be an extremely hostile and abusive environment going by previous recent visits. They need to show up both defensively and on the scoreboard. Peter is a different type of player to Aaron so the Bull is going to have to step up big time. Reidy is there to fill the gaps in the middle third and he does that job well. If he shows up on the score board its a bonus. Cathal has to cut out the turnovers. He will deliver going forward. Big day for Cian too. He was poor last day aswell. We need a win from one of the 2 away games to get out of the group and/or a munster final.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 24/04/2026 15:35:24
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We started like a train, gave away a bad turnover goal recovered well but once Cian was sent off a draw was the best case scenario when down to 14.
Wides proved to be very costly in that second half and i thought we deserved a draw.
Thought SOB and AOC stepped up in absence of Gillane.
Ennis all the harder now without two key members but overall we showed enough to convince me we can get something from there.
Clare have a great bench whereas we are really dipping deep into our reserves there.
Loads of twists and turns to come yet from this Munster Championship.
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Replying To Sliothar73: "We started like a train, gave away a bad turnover goal recovered well but once Cian was sent off a draw was the best case scenario when down to 14.
Wides proved to be very costly in that second half and i thought we deserved a draw.
Thought SOB and AOC stepped up in absence of Gillane.
Ennis all the harder now without two key members but overall we showed enough to convince me we can get something from there.
Clare have a great bench whereas we are really dipping deep into our reserves there.
Loads of twists and turns to come yet from this Munster Championship." We lose in Ennis and its as good as over. Tipp in trouble too and Waterford are still standing. We need at least a point in Ennis to keep it in our own hands.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 26/04/2026 20:07:28
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "We lose in Ennis and its as good as over. Tipp in trouble too and Waterford are still standing. We need at least a point in Ennis to keep it in our own hands." We can lose in Ennis and still qualify in 3rd place.
Beat Waterford and Tipp at home and no matter how they do in their other game, we go through on 4 points.
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "We lose in Ennis and its as good as over. Tipp in trouble too and Waterford are still standing. We need at least a point in Ennis to keep it in our own hands." Waterford won't beat cork and Limerick
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Regardless of what happens in Ennis, if we beat both Tipperary and Waterford we go through. Limerick would have 4pts and both Tipperary and Waterford could only reach a maximum of 3 pts. But of course id like to see us get a result in Ennis. We will have to up our game if we want a result
Limerick2018 (Limerick) - Posts: 88 - 26/04/2026 21:32:05
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Well it's the morning after and not sure where to start. I suppose firstly I certainly believe our overall performance deserved a draw.
Happy o brien and o connor got into the game as their league finals were not great. Helped Joyce went off with an injury.
Sickening wides at the start of the second half in particular when playing well to make opportunities..Cathail guilty of a couple but in fairness the lad never goes missing. He always tries to get on possession and stick up the hand. I think Peter casey also missed one or 2 easy ones but I think he will get better from playing that many minutes
Worrying aspects for me- Hegarty is still brilliant but is now a 60 min man. One shot at goal the whole game too very disappointing (aside from Byrnes heroics, also byrnes for me, best limerick player on the pitch credit to him) Yes we were missing gillane but they also were missing Joyce, never created an overlap for a goal.
Cork didn't play the best of what they can do but still won. Always will get a goal which is a huge fillip when down. They have beaten us now in loads of tight games since 2024. Yes we still can turn them over but our wins like the league final have been when they haven't been 100% at it. The rolling around the ground from them is ridiculous though particularly o donghue at the back. What lynch did was very poor but mahony also made sure he would see red. Clare and cork are particularly" good" at this.
Lynch has made next week in ennis a mountain. Darragh looked sharp when on. In lots of ways I would like to see him and Adam in midfield but not this way. Has he got 70 mins in him? We'll find out.
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Replying To Mads: "Well it's the morning after and not sure where to start. I suppose firstly I certainly believe our overall performance deserved a draw.
Happy o brien and o connor got into the game as their league finals were not great. Helped Joyce went off with an injury.
Sickening wides at the start of the second half in particular when playing well to make opportunities..Cathail guilty of a couple but in fairness the lad never goes missing. He always tries to get on possession and stick up the hand. I think Peter casey also missed one or 2 easy ones but I think he will get better from playing that many minutes
Worrying aspects for me- Hegarty is still brilliant but is now a 60 min man. One shot at goal the whole game too very disappointing (aside from Byrnes heroics, also byrnes for me, best limerick player on the pitch credit to him) Yes we were missing gillane but they also were missing Joyce, never created an overlap for a goal.
Cork didn't play the best of what they can do but still won. Always will get a goal which is a huge fillip when down. They have beaten us now in loads of tight games since 2024. Yes we still can turn them over but our wins like the league final have been when they haven't been 100% at it. The rolling around the ground from them is ridiculous though particularly o donghue at the back. What lynch did was very poor but mahony also made sure he would see red. Clare and cork are particularly" good" at this.
Lynch has made next week in ennis a mountain. Darragh looked sharp when on. In lots of ways I would like to see him and Adam in midfield but not this way. Has he got 70 mins in him? We'll find out." Tbf to the lads there is a reason that cork didnt play as well as you think they can. We didnt let them.
It was always going to be difficult down there. Their supporters make it very hostile. We quietened then until the mistake. Thats on us. The sending off made a difficult task almost impossible. The wides ensured that it was impossible. Thats all on us. We need to fix that. When this team plays to its potential we dont need goals. They are a bonus. We are capable of going over 30 points. Unfortunately, these days we need to to win championship games. Every time we fail to we seem to lose.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 294 - 27/04/2026 11:43:51
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Replying To Mads: "Well it's the morning after and not sure where to start. I suppose firstly I certainly believe our overall performance deserved a draw.
Happy o brien and o connor got into the game as their league finals were not great. Helped Joyce went off with an injury.
Sickening wides at the start of the second half in particular when playing well to make opportunities..Cathail guilty of a couple but in fairness the lad never goes missing. He always tries to get on possession and stick up the hand. I think Peter casey also missed one or 2 easy ones but I think he will get better from playing that many minutes
Worrying aspects for me- Hegarty is still brilliant but is now a 60 min man. One shot at goal the whole game too very disappointing (aside from Byrnes heroics, also byrnes for me, best limerick player on the pitch credit to him) Yes we were missing gillane but they also were missing Joyce, never created an overlap for a goal.
Cork didn't play the best of what they can do but still won. Always will get a goal which is a huge fillip when down. They have beaten us now in loads of tight games since 2024. Yes we still can turn them over but our wins like the league final have been when they haven't been 100% at it. The rolling around the ground from them is ridiculous though particularly o donghue at the back. What lynch did was very poor but mahony also made sure he would see red. Clare and cork are particularly" good" at this.
Lynch has made next week in ennis a mountain. Darragh looked sharp when on. In lots of ways I would like to see him and Adam in midfield but not this way. Has he got 70 mins in him? We'll find out." I agree with everything you said.
Hego for me was excellent, his work rate and the ground he covers is immense and you can only appreciate it being at the game. There is a problem though, even in his prime it was very hard to maintain that intense level for 70 mins and he would be hauled off and Conor Boylan or whoever would go on and close out when he started to tire.
We are in general lightweight on impact subs now. The fact that neither O'Dalaigh or Hugh Flanagan saw no game time with Gillane out says to me that JK doesn't think they are ready. Tom Morrissey and DOD are the only subs who can have influence on the attack. Is the rest of the panel trusted?
In saying that we still have an excellent group of about 18 players who will give anyone a run. When things click we can still play at a rate that any team will struggle to match. We were complelely dominant until the goal went in and that goal was self inflicted rather than created by Cork. The question now is can we maintain it. Ship has longed sailed on this, but you would have thought having a fully fit Seamie Flanagan up top yesterday would have given the Cork full back line a lot more to think about. The balance of Flanagan and Gillane and the work rate and threat they give has not been shown yet by any combination since.
We need more from Adam English too, in a full strength 15 i'm wondering if he starts in place of Reidy and DOD partners Cian in midfield. Lynch was a majestic in the first half and gave an exhibition, it alos looked like the Bull had the beating of Cahalane inside. Strange that the didn't go that direct route more often. Cork are happy to launch it in over the half back line and let the full forward line compete. I think we should have tried that a bit more too.
Overall an excellent performance from the team and it was never going to be easy with Cian getting the red so early in the second half. Clare will smell blood in the water next weekend and seem to be in great form and they now do have genuine threats they can being off the bench who can make big impacts.We will need ferocious intensity but will cool heads to come out of this one with the win.
Fitzy01 (Limerick) - Posts: 480 - 27/04/2026 12:14:52
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Fitzgerald and Flanagan not starting for u20s
Makes sense since they are already out and minus Lynch and Gillane squad looking a little light
Although I wonder if there is a temptation to blood Fitzgerald who looked really good in the League
Probably not but if he were going well in training?
Nash has been playing ok but not as effective going forward as in the past so maybe they see him as a possibility for that role?
I assume DOD will come in for Lynch and that will be the only change from the last day
Am expecting big games from the likes of Peter Casey who has had little game time and showed like he was getting close to his best. Time for O Brien, O Neill, English and O Connor to lead from the front
Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 239 - 29/04/2026 07:34:38
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Replying To Fitzy01: "I agree with everything you said.
Hego for me was excellent, his work rate and the ground he covers is immense and you can only appreciate it being at the game. There is a problem though, even in his prime it was very hard to maintain that intense level for 70 mins and he would be hauled off and Conor Boylan or whoever would go on and close out when he started to tire.
We are in general lightweight on impact subs now. The fact that neither O'Dalaigh or Hugh Flanagan saw no game time with Gillane out says to me that JK doesn't think they are ready. Tom Morrissey and DOD are the only subs who can have influence on the attack. Is the rest of the panel trusted?
In saying that we still have an excellent group of about 18 players who will give anyone a run. When things click we can still play at a rate that any team will struggle to match. We were complelely dominant until the goal went in and that goal was self inflicted rather than created by Cork. The question now is can we maintain it. Ship has longed sailed on this, but you would have thought having a fully fit Seamie Flanagan up top yesterday would have given the Cork full back line a lot more to think about. The balance of Flanagan and Gillane and the work rate and threat they give has not been shown yet by any combination since.
We need more from Adam English too, in a full strength 15 i'm wondering if he starts in place of Reidy and DOD partners Cian in midfield. Lynch was a majestic in the first half and gave an exhibition, it alos looked like the Bull had the beating of Cahalane inside. Strange that the didn't go that direct route more often. Cork are happy to launch it in over the half back line and let the full forward line compete. I think we should have tried that a bit more too.
Overall an excellent performance from the team and it was never going to be easy with Cian getting the red so early in the second half. Clare will smell blood in the water next weekend and seem to be in great form and they now do have genuine threats they can being off the bench who can make big impacts.We will need ferocious intensity but will cool heads to come out of this one with the win." Lads all this talk about about Seamus Flanagan and the impact he "could" have made has to stop. Seamus Flanagan was playing well bellow his own standards for the last two years in my view and there is no evidence that if he were still around that he could magically have saved the day when we went down to 14 men.
I agree with the sentiment about management not being over confident going to Donnacha O'Dalaigh or Hugh Flanagan at the moment either.
O'Dalaigh has been around long enough and while is a decent player in my view he isn't an elite intercounty standard forward, like Peter Casey or Aaron Gillane. I would love him to prove me wrong, but I think he has got lots of opportunities during the league and he didn't grasp them.
Hugh Flanagan has far more potential than O'Dalaigh but we have to remember he is still very very young and could take another year or two before he is realistically putting pressure on the other forwards.
We didn't get the result in Cork but we performed very well, I'm happy that the fight, and the appetite is still in us.
In my view Clare are a lot like Cork and perhaps the Cork match might prove ideal preparation for what we face in Ennis on Sunday. Like Cork, Clare have seriously talented forwards with real pace and skill, but their backs can be got at in my view. I'm hoping that fact that Clare have been hiding out in 1B over the winter means that are not fully tuned in to the Intensity that we are going to bring.
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "Lads all this talk about about Seamus Flanagan and the impact he "could" have made has to stop. Seamus Flanagan was playing well bellow his own standards for the last two years in my view and there is no evidence that if he were still around that he could magically have saved the day when we went down to 14 men.
I agree with the sentiment about management not being over confident going to Donnacha O'Dalaigh or Hugh Flanagan at the moment either.
O'Dalaigh has been around long enough and while is a decent player in my view he isn't an elite intercounty standard forward, like Peter Casey or Aaron Gillane. I would love him to prove me wrong, but I think he has got lots of opportunities during the league and he didn't grasp them.
Hugh Flanagan has far more potential than O'Dalaigh but we have to remember he is still very very young and could take another year or two before he is realistically putting pressure on the other forwards.
We didn't get the result in Cork but we performed very well, I'm happy that the fight, and the appetite is still in us.
In my view Clare are a lot like Cork and perhaps the Cork match might prove ideal preparation for what we face in Ennis on Sunday. Like Cork, Clare have seriously talented forwards with real pace and skill, but their backs can be got at in my view. I'm hoping that fact that Clare have been hiding out in 1B over the winter means that are not fully tuned in to the Intensity that we are going to bring." I think that the point people make on Flanagan is that we haven't replaced him in the squad. Noone can do what he did well atm and we miss that. I agree that he had faded a bit towards the end but it was his discipline as much as anything that went first.
On Flanagan, I dont think that he has the pace or work rate required to impact the game in the manner we need. Hes definitely no Flanagan and I dont think that he's a Peter Casey or Gillane either. He is young but I dont see any of the traits I think are necessary to make it. I especially didnt see them for the 20s. I was disappointed by his lack of leadership there.
On O Dalaigh. I agree. I dont see him as a starter ever. I think we are in some trouble going forward when Heg and others retire. We could be in trouble late on in the game on Sunday.
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A worry is what looks like a lack of trust in the panel overall..we seem to have 20 at most when all available,down 2 on Sunday so maybe someone gets the chance if brought in to say they are ready..
Is Dan far away from starting?he could slot in and move Barry to 7 with Kyle to centre forward and sic to the wing..take it that darragh starts instead of cian.
This is huge on Sunday,if we lose even with 2 matches left it will be hard to get out.
CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2679 - 29/04/2026 12:38:40
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "I think that the point people make on Flanagan is that we haven't replaced him in the squad. Noone can do what he did well atm and we miss that. I agree that he had faded a bit towards the end but it was his discipline as much as anything that went first.
On Flanagan, I dont think that he has the pace or work rate required to impact the game in the manner we need. Hes definitely no Flanagan and I dont think that he's a Peter Casey or Gillane either. He is young but I dont see any of the traits I think are necessary to make it. I especially didnt see them for the 20s. I was disappointed by his lack of leadership there.
On O Dalaigh. I agree. I dont see him as a starter ever. I think we are in some trouble going forward when Heg and others retire. We could be in trouble late on in the game on Sunday." seamus flanagan was a sub for the whole u21 campaign in 2017 and won a senior all allireland as a player 10 months later . dont be writing off 19 20 year olds.
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Replying To Tadhg2020: "I think that the point people make on Flanagan is that we haven't replaced him in the squad. Noone can do what he did well atm and we miss that. I agree that he had faded a bit towards the end but it was his discipline as much as anything that went first.
On Flanagan, I dont think that he has the pace or work rate required to impact the game in the manner we need. Hes definitely no Flanagan and I dont think that he's a Peter Casey or Gillane either. He is young but I dont see any of the traits I think are necessary to make it. I especially didnt see them for the 20s. I was disappointed by his lack of leadership there.
On O Dalaigh. I agree. I dont see him as a starter ever. I think we are in some trouble going forward when Heg and others retire. We could be in trouble late on in the game on Sunday." Everything goes in cycles. It will likely be many years til we see another team in any county as good as the Limerick team of the last 8 years.
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "Lads all this talk about about Seamus Flanagan and the impact he "could" have made has to stop. Seamus Flanagan was playing well bellow his own standards for the last two years in my view and there is no evidence that if he were still around that he could magically have saved the day when we went down to 14 men.
I agree with the sentiment about management not being over confident going to Donnacha O'Dalaigh or Hugh Flanagan at the moment either.
O'Dalaigh has been around long enough and while is a decent player in my view he isn't an elite intercounty standard forward, like Peter Casey or Aaron Gillane. I would love him to prove me wrong, but I think he has got lots of opportunities during the league and he didn't grasp them.
Hugh Flanagan has far more potential than O'Dalaigh but we have to remember he is still very very young and could take another year or two before he is realistically putting pressure on the other forwards.
We didn't get the result in Cork but we performed very well, I'm happy that the fight, and the appetite is still in us.
In my view Clare are a lot like Cork and perhaps the Cork match might prove ideal preparation for what we face in Ennis on Sunday. Like Cork, Clare have seriously talented forwards with real pace and skill, but their backs can be got at in my view. I'm hoping that fact that Clare have been hiding out in 1B over the winter means that are not fully tuned in to the Intensity that we are going to bring." Most of Clares best players didnt play much in 1b
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Replying To munsterchamps: "seamus flanagan was a sub for the whole u21 campaign in 2017 and won a senior all allireland as a player 10 months later . dont be writing off 19 20 year olds." You are being a bit selective there. Seamie started for the u21s iin 2016 and was a starter for the minors before that. He lost his place in 2017 alright but he had a body of work done at minor and u21 to fall back on.
Im not writing them off. However they didnt show leadership at u20 , and it was required, which im expressing concern about. I think Jack Cosgrave, for example, has a bright future ahead of him but as a forward and not a wing back.
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