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Replying To countyman2022: "Unsure as to what exactly he has contributed at any age group or senior. Haven't seen enough to suggest underrated." He's only starting at this level but certainly has a bit about him.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4332 - 19/03/2026 18:51:11
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Doubt it happens but would like to see Chin at centre-back at some point tomorrow
Might hurt our scoring power up front so mightn't be worth it but should at least kick the tyres on it IMO to see how it goes
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 988 - 20/03/2026 08:15:00
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Doubt it happens but would like to see Chin at centre-back at some point tomorrow
Might hurt our scoring power up front so mightn't be worth it but should at least kick the tyres on it IMO to see how it goes" No idea how people think this is a good idea- no disrespect. We lack ball winners from midfield up- and scorers also. As soon as the ball would go up- it would literally just be back down on our backs. Until we gather 3/4 forwards with size who can win 50/50 balls, its incomprehensible.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 948 - 20/03/2026 10:28:52
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Replying To countyman2022: "No idea how people think this is a good idea- no disrespect. We lack ball winners from midfield up- and scorers also. As soon as the ball would go up- it would literally just be back down on our backs. Until we gather 3/4 forwards with size who can win 50/50 balls, its incomprehensible." I am inclined to agree to be honest.
You can obviously adapt your game to accommodate smaller forwards which we've done well sometimes but you just have to have the option of route one. Moving Chin back would be a net loss for me anyway.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4332 - 20/03/2026 11:15:00
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Replying To countyman2022: "No idea how people think this is a good idea- no disrespect. We lack ball winners from midfield up- and scorers also. As soon as the ball would go up- it would literally just be back down on our backs. Until we gather 3/4 forwards with size who can win 50/50 balls, its incomprehensible." Agree 100% with you.
And these days 11s dont stay at centreforward, they roam. Not sure Lee still has the engine to chase Mannion, Kenny, Lynch, etc around the pitch for 70 minutes.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 11:19:55
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Replying To Viking66: "Agree 100% with you.
And these days 11s dont stay at centreforward, they roam. Not sure Lee still has the engine to chase Mannion, Kenny, Lynch, etc around the pitch for 70 minutes." Centre-backs shouldn't be following the centre-forward though, one of the midfielders should be dropping back on him
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 988 - 20/03/2026 11:48:21
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Centre-backs shouldn't be following the centre-forward though, one of the midfielders should be dropping back on him" And leave a midfielder free?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 12:58:29
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Disagree that tomorrow's game v Kildare is no more than a practice match.
Our newbies will be doing all they can to cement their places in the starting 15 and impress the selectors. Can't imagine either that any of the more established players will be holding anything back as they too will be anxious to show form.
Wouldn't make any sense for any of the players to treat it as a challenge match.
Yes the game is no more than a dead rubber but it doesn't mean it will lack bite.
The above would also apply to The Kildare team.
Why would we pay €20 to see a so called practice match. It would be disrespectful to the paying public.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 651 - 20/03/2026 13:59:57
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Replying To Viking66: "And leave a midfielder free?" Your 11 generally drops out also. Look at any the top teams, they try make their half forward line play in the midfielders area- create space inside, block up middle area. We tend to struggle with it.
countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 948 - 20/03/2026 14:15:30
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Who have Wexford got left to come back? Are Jacko, Jippo and Shane Reck the only ones?
Was looking at the fixtures. Away to Kildare, Kilkenny first. Home to Dublin and Galway. Finish away to Offaly.
We have to win that game v Kildare or we are in real trouble of relegation. Win that and we are up and running. Lose it and the Kilkenny game away and we are fighting for our lives. We have to lay down a marker this weekend, go out and beat them and set a doubt in their mind about how good they are.
I've only seen the Carlow and Clare games and I fear where we are is not good.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1977 - 20/03/2026 14:35:03
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Replying To countyman2022: "Your 11 generally drops out also. Look at any the top teams, they try make their half forward line play in the midfielders area- create space inside, block up middle area. We tend to struggle with it." Yes the middle 3rd has become more and more congested and crowded ever since Cody and Fogarty started that ball rolling by dropping their half forwards back to counter Corks running game in the mid noughties.
As regards the roaming 11s Id rather pick a man marker at 15 and get him to follow the 11. See how that goes. The scoring returns from roaming 11s definitely mean that something needs to be done to counter them. Mannion killed us by himself last year in Salthill.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 14:39:16
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Replying To Magpie2: "Disagree that tomorrow's game v Kildare is no more than a practice match.
Our newbies will be doing all they can to cement their places in the starting 15 and impress the selectors. Can't imagine either that any of the more established players will be holding anything back as they too will be anxious to show form.
Wouldn't make any sense for any of the players to treat it as a challenge match.
Yes the game is no more than a dead rubber but it doesn't mean it will lack bite.
The above would also apply to The Kildare team.
Why would we pay €20 to see a so called practice match. It would be disrespectful to the paying public." Obviously lads will be trying, but the game isnt going to have the bite of a Championship game. There's trying, and then theres really going all out. And from a physical and mental point of view Id be certain our lads wont be at their peak next weekend, they will be timing things for the lads to be approaching their peak in Newbridge.
It was the difference between our u20s and Antrims u20s last weekend for example. Antrim are out in Championship against Meath in Trim day after tomorrow. They played their 1st team, and approached the game like a Championship game, as thats the phase of their season that they are at. We didnt, because we arent playing Championship for a few weeks yet.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 15:26:15
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Replying To Viking66: "And leave a midfielder free?" Centre-forward should drop on to one of the midfielders
And then full-forward should maybe drop on to the opposition centre-back
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 988 - 20/03/2026 16:11:29
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Who have Wexford got left to come back? Are Jacko, Jippo and Shane Reck the only ones?
Was looking at the fixtures. Away to Kildare, Kilkenny first. Home to Dublin and Galway. Finish away to Offaly.
We have to win that game v Kildare or we are in real trouble of relegation. Win that and we are up and running. Lose it and the Kilkenny game away and we are fighting for our lives. We have to lay down a marker this weekend, go out and beat them and set a doubt in their mind about how good they are.
I've only seen the Carlow and Clare games and I fear where we are is not good." We werent great in either game. Our best League performance was probably the Dublin game, except the start, which is a problem for us generally in recent years, and the very end.
We have Jippo, Jacko, Shane, Cian Byrne, Patsy and Niall Murphy to come back in who didnt play against Clare but started in Championship in the last couple of years.
Of the newer lads who might make an impact in the Championship we didnt see much of Rowley, Eoin Whelan or Cillian Byrne who all started 3 years at u20, or would have except for injury, and we didnt see Jack Redmond on the pitch up in Ennis either.
Im not sure how much we will see of all those lads tomorrow either Storeystash. Im only hoping they will be fully fit for Championship.
Another thing to consider is that I wasn't hugely impressed with Dublin or Kilkenny the times I have seen them this year either. Carey is apparently out now as well, and they might be starting Deegan at fullback against Tipp. Dublin have Sean Currie to come back, he has a fracture, but Colin Currie left the panel. Doyle will strengthen them up at the back when he recovers.
Other lads we have tended to struggle against when we were playing against them, as we do against big men like them, who wont be playing this year are Danny Sutcliffe, and David King and Jason Sampson from Offaly.
Honestly dont know how we will go this year, but Im still hoping we will go well. And if we do a Leinster Final isnt an impossible goal.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 16:13:25
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Replying To StoreysTash: "Who have Wexford got left to come back? Are Jacko, Jippo and Shane Reck the only ones?
Was looking at the fixtures. Away to Kildare, Kilkenny first. Home to Dublin and Galway. Finish away to Offaly.
We have to win that game v Kildare or we are in real trouble of relegation. Win that and we are up and running. Lose it and the Kilkenny game away and we are fighting for our lives. We have to lay down a marker this weekend, go out and beat them and set a doubt in their mind about how good they are.
I've only seen the Carlow and Clare games and I fear where we are is not good." You have those fixtures in the wrong order.
First three are correct all right. But Round 4 is away to Offaly, and Round 5 is home to Galway, not the other way around.
Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3400 - 20/03/2026 16:15:20
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Centre-forward should drop on to one of the midfielders
And then full-forward should maybe drop on to the opposition centre-back" If we tie up our centre forward to mark one of their midfielders wont we be losing the attacking threat a roaming 11 carries?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 18809 - 20/03/2026 16:28:10
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Replying To Viking66: "Agree 100% with you.
And these days 11s dont stay at centreforward, they roam. Not sure Lee still has the engine to chase Mannion, Kenny, Lynch, etc around the pitch for 70 minutes." I agree that Chin wouldnt benefit the team at 6 but he absolutely needs to be in a central role imo. 11 or 14. He waa lost on the wing in the games I saw. He makes very little contribution to play there.
Your 6 isnt expected to track the 11 in modern hurling. Your 10 and 12 are expected to drop into that middle area and shore it up so your 6 can sit. Thats another reason why Chin isnt suited to 10 or 12. He just doesnt do that with any enthusiasm whatsoever.
Tadhg2020 (Limerick) - Posts: 91 - 20/03/2026 17:36:15
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Replying To Viking66: "If we tie up our centre forward to mark one of their midfielders wont we be losing the attacking threat a roaming 11 carries?" He'd be marking one of the midfields when defending, he'd still be able to roam when in possession
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 988 - 20/03/2026 18:06:32
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Belatedly got around to the Hurling Podcast and thought Colin Ryan was a good guest
He was making a point about how he'd want to lay down a marker against a team in the league if he knew he was playing them in the Championship
That should be the aim but I'm expecting tomorrow will be about as far away from a cakewalk as you can get; if we win, it'll probably only be a narrow win. Outside of Offaly who were coming off the back of an AI U20 win, I think this Kildare side are the best team to come out of Joe McDonagh, I'd have them a good bit ahead of Antrim, Westmeath, and Carlow when they all got promoted. They have a settled squad, a settled style of play, they're a very big team and their S&C work is very impressive and most importantly, they play with a load of belief and intensity
The lads on the podcast referenced how when Davy was with us, he went hard in the league against the bigger teams so that we could believe we would be able to beat them come Championship. The upshot of that was that we probably went harder at the league than other counties and faded towards the end of the Championship (Bar 2019, Davy always did better in the league than in the Championship)
I think this Kildare team will be similar enough to us a few years ago in that regard, they had a strong enough team out against Kilkenny in the Walsh Cup Shield Final and they haven't really done much experimentation in the league. I suppose Dowling's angle is that his players wouldn't really have played that much at the top level before so he wanted to give them as much exposure at the top level as possible before Championship (Can't blame him for that)
With some lads still to come back and with others out with injury, I think the team we will see tomorrow will be a good bit different to the team that starts in Newbridge. Tomorrow will be tough although at least we should get a better handle on how they like to play their short-passing game and how they will probably look to target us with direct ball into Curtin at full-forward and go for the jugular by scoring goals
Wouldn't be that optimistic about tomorrow tbh but would be more optimistic about the game in Newbridge
ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 988 - 20/03/2026 18:18:37
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "Belatedly got around to the Hurling Podcast and thought Colin Ryan was a good guest
He was making a point about how he'd want to lay down a marker against a team in the league if he knew he was playing them in the Championship
That should be the aim but I'm expecting tomorrow will be about as far away from a cakewalk as you can get; if we win, it'll probably only be a narrow win. Outside of Offaly who were coming off the back of an AI U20 win, I think this Kildare side are the best team to come out of Joe McDonagh, I'd have them a good bit ahead of Antrim, Westmeath, and Carlow when they all got promoted. They have a settled squad, a settled style of play, they're a very big team and their S&C work is very impressive and most importantly, they play with a load of belief and intensity
The lads on the podcast referenced how when Davy was with us, he went hard in the league against the bigger teams so that we could believe we would be able to beat them come Championship. The upshot of that was that we probably went harder at the league than other counties and faded towards the end of the Championship (Bar 2019, Davy always did better in the league than in the Championship)
I think this Kildare team will be similar enough to us a few years ago in that regard, they had a strong enough team out against Kilkenny in the Walsh Cup Shield Final and they haven't really done much experimentation in the league. I suppose Dowling's angle is that his players wouldn't really have played that much at the top level before so he wanted to give them as much exposure at the top level as possible before Championship (Can't blame him for that)
With some lads still to come back and with others out with injury, I think the team we will see tomorrow will be a good bit different to the team that starts in Newbridge. Tomorrow will be tough although at least we should get a better handle on how they like to play their short-passing game and how they will probably look to target us with direct ball into Curtin at full-forward and go for the jugular by scoring goals
Wouldn't be that optimistic about tomorrow tbh but would be more optimistic about the game in Newbridge" Our lads are heading off for a camp on Sunday. They'll really really want to be leaving off the back of a good performance.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4332 - 20/03/2026 19:28:34
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