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Replying To Viking66:  "We have had to spend significantly on Wexford Park, Patrick's Park and Ferns, in order to get the grants available afaik."
But isn't that one-off spending? Looked it up there and the County Board seemed to make a little profit either last year or 2024 (As they should, can't go spending money they don't have) but leaving aside one-off expenditure, if these counties are spending more on coaching on a per capita basis, are we spending more on other stuff compared to them or are they just out-spending us everywhere? And if they're out-spending us everywhere, how much more revenue are they making compared to us?

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 18/05/2026 20:20:35    2674006

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Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh, fair play to Galway as they were at least 10 points down with about 15 minutes to play and came back to win by one in extra time

Other than our game against Galway where we didn't turn up, the biggest winning margin in any game between us, KK, Dublin, and Galway was 3 points so not much between anyone

Hope the Minors bounce back on Saturday and show that the Galway game was just a one-off

Think both Enniscorthy CBS and Good Counsel beat Kieran's at Junior level and read somewhere else that this Wexford side had generally beaten KK all the way up, obviously they were pretty much already qualified when we played them so have to be careful when using that game as evidence but still hope that this Minor side can show themselves to be a good side

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 18/05/2026 21:34:52    2674021

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Looks like Damien Reck, Jippo, and Darragh Carley could all be out of the match on Sunday, would probably bring in Conor Foley, Cian Molloy, and Cian Byrne for them

I'd say there'll be a very poor Wexford crowd there unfortunately, I know some will have legitimate reasons not to be there as they'll be abroad/away/have something on but as for those who are able to go and have no real excuses not to be there, I suppose we'll really learn who are the ones most interested in rebuilding Wexford hurling by their attendance on Sunday

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 18/05/2026 22:35:28    2674024

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "But isn't that one-off spending? Looked it up there and the County Board seemed to make a little profit either last year or 2024 (As they should, can't go spending money they don't have) but leaving aside one-off expenditure, if these counties are spending more on coaching on a per capita basis, are we spending more on other stuff compared to them or are they just out-spending us everywhere? And if they're out-spending us everywhere, how much more revenue are they making compared to us?"
Its not one off expenditure, its been ongoing. We are basically debt free, and have what we have.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 18/05/2026 22:57:35    2674029

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh, fair play to Galway as they were at least 10 points down with about 15 minutes to play and came back to win by one in extra time

Other than our game against Galway where we didn't turn up, the biggest winning margin in any game between us, KK, Dublin, and Galway was 3 points so not much between anyone

Hope the Minors bounce back on Saturday and show that the Galway game was just a one-off

Think both Enniscorthy CBS and Good Counsel beat Kieran's at Junior level and read somewhere else that this Wexford side had generally beaten KK all the way up, obviously they were pretty much already qualified when we played them so have to be careful when using that game as evidence but still hope that this Minor side can show themselves to be a good side"
They are a good side. What they need to show is that they can be a consistently good side. Not easy for 15/16/17 year olds to do.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 18/05/2026 23:00:57    2674031

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh, fair play to Galway as they were at least 10 points down with about 15 minutes to play and came back to win by one in extra time

Other than our game against Galway where we didn't turn up, the biggest winning margin in any game between us, KK, Dublin, and Galway was 3 points so not much between anyone

Hope the Minors bounce back on Saturday and show that the Galway game was just a one-off

Think both Enniscorthy CBS and Good Counsel beat Kieran's at Junior level and read somewhere else that this Wexford side had generally beaten KK all the way up, obviously they were pretty much already qualified when we played them so have to be careful when using that game as evidence but still hope that this Minor side can show themselves to be a good side"
'Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh'

Is this a real post? Galway beat us by 18 points and we beat a KK team who did not play a number of their team as already through.

Is an 18 point defeat not enough to see we were nowhere near it?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 998 - 19/05/2026 08:57:45    2674049

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "IIRC, there was a bit of a storm in a teacup between Joe and some of our administrators the day we drew in Mullingar, that might've been related to him not taking the U20 job

Suppose time heals all wounds though"
I know Joe from being around Dublin. He is a decent guy and apparently he had a good catch up with Co Board officials after that incident and has been offered roles since with various teams but not senior. Not sure he would bethe best option but there wo`t be many looking.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 19/05/2026 09:52:48    2674060

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Replying To countyman2022:  "'Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh'

Is this a real post? Galway beat us by 18 points and we beat a KK team who did not play a number of their team as already through.

Is an 18 point defeat not enough to see we were nowhere near it?"
Name the lads Kilkenny didnt play? Ill do it for you. Padraig Meaney and Robert Lacey were the only 2 who started against us and didnt start against Galway. Lacey apparently picked up a knock against us and was injured. Not sure about Meaney but maybe he was injured too, Kilkenny used 7 subs and not him. Actually just checked- he was injured too.
https://kilkennygaa.ie/2026/05/leinster-mhc-final-kilkenny-team-v-galway-named/
The 3 subs who came on against us all came on against Galway.
Take it you didnt watch the game last night?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 19/05/2026 09:54:03    2674061

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Replying To countyman2022:  "'Leinster Minor might have been one that got away from us tbh'

Is this a real post? Galway beat us by 18 points and we beat a KK team who did not play a number of their team as already through.

Is an 18 point defeat not enough to see we were nowhere near it?"
Ah yes, positive as always

Yes, the minors were terrible against Galway but this sort of thing can happen at Minor level. For example, Galway got absolutely hammered by KK in the Leinster Minor Final two years ago and then ended up losing by a point to Tipp after extra time in the AISF, Tipp ended up winning the AI Championship

One good performance does not make a good team and equally, one bad performance does not make a bad team

Do the results against Laois and KK not count? They were the width of the crossbar away from drawing against Dublin so it's not as if they were miles off them

Actually, our result against Galway was the outlier

Dublin beat us by 3
Galway beat KK by 2
We beat KK by 2
Galway and Dublin drew
KK beat Dublin by 1
Galway beat KK by 1 AET

Again, the Minors have to prove themselves the next day

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 19/05/2026 10:29:01    2674064

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Replying To Viking66:  "Name the lads Kilkenny didnt play? Ill do it for you. Padraig Meaney and Robert Lacey were the only 2 who started against us and didnt start against Galway. Lacey apparently picked up a knock against us and was injured. Not sure about Meaney but maybe he was injured too, Kilkenny used 7 subs and not him. Actually just checked- he was injured too.
https://kilkennygaa.ie/2026/05/leinster-mhc-final-kilkenny-team-v-galway-named/
The 3 subs who came on against us all came on against Galway.
Take it you didnt watch the game last night?"
We got beaten in the semi final by 18 points- how could anybody say we left it behind? Suppose was same last year when they beat us by 12?

The glossing over needs to stop.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 998 - 19/05/2026 10:29:23    2674065

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Replying To Viking66:  "Its not one off expenditure, its been ongoing. We are basically debt free, and have what we have."
Wexford's facilities are top class as they should be. It sounds like with grants etc it was a good spend of money and obvioulsy if people like Beranrd Dunne are bring employed there is plenty of money around. I think they sepnt 1.5 million on county teams last year, this year they went to Spain on a camp. Mpney isn`t the issue.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 206 - 19/05/2026 10:41:13    2674069

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Ah yes, positive as always

Yes, the minors were terrible against Galway but this sort of thing can happen at Minor level. For example, Galway got absolutely hammered by KK in the Leinster Minor Final two years ago and then ended up losing by a point to Tipp after extra time in the AISF, Tipp ended up winning the AI Championship

One good performance does not make a good team and equally, one bad performance does not make a bad team

Do the results against Laois and KK not count? They were the width of the crossbar away from drawing against Dublin so it's not as if they were miles off them

Actually, our result against Galway was the outlier

Dublin beat us by 3
Galway beat KK by 2
We beat KK by 2
Galway and Dublin drew
KK beat Dublin by 1
Galway beat KK by 1 AET

Again, the Minors have to prove themselves the next day"
Are you Viking in disguise? Anyway, this wouldn't be a vintage Cork minor team, so I'd imagine you should win on Saturday

bloodandbandage (Cork) - Posts: 545 - 19/05/2026 11:04:34    2674076

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Ah yes, positive as always

Yes, the minors were terrible against Galway but this sort of thing can happen at Minor level. For example, Galway got absolutely hammered by KK in the Leinster Minor Final two years ago and then ended up losing by a point to Tipp after extra time in the AISF, Tipp ended up winning the AI Championship

One good performance does not make a good team and equally, one bad performance does not make a bad team

Do the results against Laois and KK not count? They were the width of the crossbar away from drawing against Dublin so it's not as if they were miles off them

Actually, our result against Galway was the outlier

Dublin beat us by 3
Galway beat KK by 2
We beat KK by 2
Galway and Dublin drew
KK beat Dublin by 1
Galway beat KK by 1 AET

Again, the Minors have to prove themselves the next day"
Minor boys are decent i agree o know alot of the boys the problem is the coaching and lack of game plan offensively is their problem we getting nothing out of some really good forwards as they are allowed hurl with freedom. Coaches trying to micro manage and wont let lads hurl with freedom like they do at club level.

Bryson (Wexford) - Posts: 45 - 19/05/2026 11:33:41    2674086

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Replying To countyman2022:  "We got beaten in the semi final by 18 points- how could anybody say we left it behind? Suppose was same last year when they beat us by 12?

The glossing over needs to stop."
I didnt say we left it behind at all. It was a bad tired performance by a group of 15/16/17 year olds. They have a chance of winning their next game. Its up to them whether they take it or not. At the end of the day alot of them are only in 3rd year.
I dont think any of us should have unrealistic expectations of them.
Glossing over bad results, or good results either for that matter, is pretty irrelevant to how good or bad any of these lads might become as adults.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 19/05/2026 11:58:27    2674097

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Wexford's facilities are top class as they should be. It sounds like with grants etc it was a good spend of money and obvioulsy if people like Beranrd Dunne are bring employed there is plenty of money around. I think they sepnt 1.5 million on county teams last year, this year they went to Spain on a camp. Mpney isn`t the issue."
Moneys not an issue because we as a county are careful how we spend it. Matching our proportion of grants has to be done or we dont get the grants.
We are running at a slight deficit atm. But nothing bad. Im hoping we can increase the amount we spend on underage as our expenditure on capital projects slows down.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 19/05/2026 12:02:46    2674099

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Wexford's facilities are top class as they should be. It sounds like with grants etc it was a good spend of money and obvioulsy if people like Beranrd Dunne are bring employed there is plenty of money around. I think they sepnt 1.5 million on county teams last year, this year they went to Spain on a camp. Mpney isn`t the issue."
Quality of coaches is a big issue - especially in primary schools. There is no structure or anything or even end goal. It is like ticking a box that we completed our 6 weeks stint is X primary school.

I do think we should have 1 or 2 people within Wexford GAA will full responsibility for co-ordination of primary schools .. a more modern Hurling365 vision maybe with metrics that can be judged on and are attainable. I was involved in Hurling365 a few years ago - We ran it after school and it worked well .. but then some parents started to abuse it and use it as a baby sitting service .. Impossible manage kids that have zero interest in hurling and were only there to pass an hour. Instead of doing it during school time, we now put more emphasis on evening coaching in the winter / autumn months.

There are teachers genuinely interested in coaching but since the introduction of the 'Croke Park hours', teachers have become very reluctant to do any extra activity (and not just GAA activities) and you cannot blame them. Government should have seen the value in what teachers offer after school or during non teaching time and allow that to go towards these Croke Park hours - Instead they have to go to planning meetings and all that.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 313 - 19/05/2026 12:03:26    2674100

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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "Are you Viking in disguise? Anyway, this wouldn't be a vintage Cork minor team, so I'd imagine you should win on Saturday"
Ha, I'm not saying Wexford hurling doesn't have issues but as much as underage teams and results needs to be better, it's not as if we've been consistently getting hockeyed at underage level (Like Offaly getting destroyed by Laois last year in Minor and this year against Dublin and KK at U20)

Now we have had teams who have been on the wrong end of beatings in the last few years, don't get me wrong (Galway this year in U20 group stages and Minor SF, Minors last year against KK, U20s in 2024 against KK) but these teams have then performed much better in other games (Like the U20s versus KK this year in the group stages and then Galway in the LSF)

Again, it'd be much better if we didn't throw in those howlers semi-regularly and if the performance against Galway in the U20 SF was the worst level we could be

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 19/05/2026 12:04:54    2674101

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Replying To bloodandbandage:  "Are you Viking in disguise? Anyway, this wouldn't be a vintage Cork minor team, so I'd imagine you should win on Saturday"
It was close enough at u16 last year, we won the 3rd/4th playoff in the Eugene Carey but that doesnt mean anything now, and we had a couple challenge games against you this year already.
I dont think anyone really "should" win any game at this level. If we play our best and maybe get that little bit of luck in-game we COULD win the game. But the same goes for your lads.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19703 - 19/05/2026 12:05:52    2674104

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Replying To countyman2022:  "We got beaten in the semi final by 18 points- how could anybody say we left it behind? Suppose was same last year when they beat us by 12?

The glossing over needs to stop."
Do you think the Minors showed their true level against Galway?

Galway and KK look evenly matched at Minor level and Dublin weren't too far off either, do you think KK and Dublin would annihilate us if we played them again?

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1274 - 19/05/2026 12:06:31    2674105

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Replying To Bryson:  "Minor boys are decent i agree o know alot of the boys the problem is the coaching and lack of game plan offensively is their problem we getting nothing out of some really good forwards as they are allowed hurl with freedom. Coaches trying to micro manage and wont let lads hurl with freedom like they do at club level."
Lose a game after allowing lads to hurl with freedom, and you'll be criticised for not having had a game plan.

Lose a game after trying to impose tactical play and a game plan everywhere, and you'll be criticised for not allowing lads to hurl with freedom.

Just saying it's one of those times in GAA where you'd be wrong no matter what you do.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3656 - 19/05/2026 12:46:01    2674109

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