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Replying To Viking66:  "Senior team named. Really really hope there are are 1 or 2 changes before throw in."
Who do you think should come in? What's happening with kinsella? Looked very promising in the league but no gametime in championship. Strange one

richiepmurphy (Kilkenny) - Posts: 82 - 16/05/2026 08:09:28    2673250

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Replying To richiepmurphy:  "Who do you think should come in? What's happening with kinsella? Looked very promising in the league but no gametime in championship. Strange one"
I think it was against Kildare in that final dead rubber game when he got 6 points from play but never got going in the next game against the same opposition in the round Robin.
Hasn't played since as far as I know.
Maybe he'll get some gametime today.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 686 - 16/05/2026 09:33:40    2673256

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Replying To Spuds&GAA:  "I genuinely asked for people's opinion's. Why was there no Respect shown to Wexford by Galway? That's what's bugging me. It was a horrible thing to do. I don't hold the view that they needed extra time to beat us. At the start they were holding back 4 of their best players?? They kept 2 in reserve if at anytime they might need them. And probably 2 Generational players. But to me we got to a Leinster Semi Final. Any how that's that."
They weren't holding back 4 of their best players. Killeen was only coming back from injury. Niland and Murphy were injured. The other 1 came on at halftime, and we still nearly won in normal time. Rabbitte only really came into the game in ET. They were trying to manage their Senior lads minutes and that was probably on the instruction of MOD, not their u20 management. They were probably told only bring Rabbitte on if you might lose the game. And their u20 management obviously thought that they might lose the game. They brought the lad on. And as it turned out they nearly did lose the game, even with everyone who was fit on the pitch. They needed a last puck of the ball equaliser to send the game into ET.
Injuries are part and parcel of the game of hurling. Last year we were missing 2 of our best u20s for alot of the games, and Roche wasnt fully fit either, though he played most games. And when we lost our minor semi final last year to Galway were we being disrespectful by not playing Sean O'Brien and Rhys Wickham?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 09:45:07    2673257

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I think we all know that's not the right position for him. A good lad could end up ruined."
That's exactly the point Doyler

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 09:47:32    2673258

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Replying To richiepmurphy:  "Who do you think should come in? What's happening with kinsella? Looked very promising in the league but no gametime in championship. Strange one"
He didnt really fire starting in the last 2 League games, but his best games for Wexford against better opponents have been coming on as a sub. Especially for the u20s. Keith seems to have forgotten this, and he was his manager back then.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 09:50:01    2673259

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Replying To Spuds&GAA:  "I genuinely asked for people's opinion's. Why was there no Respect shown to Wexford by Galway? That's what's bugging me. It was a horrible thing to do. I don't hold the view that they needed extra time to beat us. At the start they were holding back 4 of their best players?? They kept 2 in reserve if at anytime they might need them. And probably 2 Generational players. But to me we got to a Leinster Semi Final. Any how that's that."
Take out those four players (Who are all up to the age) and you're still talking about a Galway team that lost by one point to Tipp in the AISF at Minor level after extra time in 2024, that same Tipp team went on to win the AI

Pres Athenry would've also made the Croke Cup Final this year without any of those four players so it's quite clear that there's a lot of talent in Galway outside of those four, it's not as if there's nothing behind them, far from it

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 16/05/2026 10:24:34    2673262

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Replying To Viking66:  "We dont need to be winning underage titles to raise our ceiling. We could have 12 ordinary u20s with 3 stars who barely win a game at u20. But those 3 stars would make a bigger improvement to our Senior team than 15 good but not great lads who win an u20 AI.
As regards last year Cillian Byrne missed nearly the whole campaign and was playing with an issue when he did come back. Simon wasnt fully fit. And Sean was missing altogether. They were probably the 3 stars of that team, and they all started as u18s in 2023 when we shouldve won the Leinster Final.
A final left field thought for you- Simon was a starting cornerback on that team......."
I agree that a top-heavy team at U20 isn't the worst thing but we have a mental block and we need to break it and the only way we can break it is by winning AIs at underage level

And I'd much rather what Galway have now than what we had last year for all that I think Simon, Cillian, and Seán have bright futures, that's what we should be aiming to produce

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 16/05/2026 10:28:48    2673263

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Replying To Magpie2:  "I think it was against Kildare in that final dead rubber game when he got 6 points from play but never got going in the next game against the same opposition in the round Robin.
Hasn't played since as far as I know.
Maybe he'll get some gametime today."
He didnt start or even come on in either game against Kildare. He scored 6 from play against Carlow, but didnt go so well against Dublin or Clare. Got subbed off at HT against Clare.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 10:43:41    2673264

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Replying To WEXILE:  "He should but he's hardly the difference between Wexford being poor and good."
Yeah but the current incumbent (through no fault of his own) has been the difference from us going from mediocre to bad.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1560 - 16/05/2026 10:52:33    2673265

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I agree that a top-heavy team at U20 isn't the worst thing but we have a mental block and we need to break it and the only way we can break it is by winning AIs at underage level

And I'd much rather what Galway have now than what we had last year for all that I think Simon, Cillian, and Seán have bright futures, that's what we should be aiming to produce"
Agree winning an AI at underage would be good from the mental block point of view. And from the point of view of giving people a lift around the county.
But its not easy to do, especially bearing in mind the relative numbers of underage hurlers compared to ours that Tipp, Cork, Galway, Kilkenny and Dublin have. We likely need a golden generation to come along, like Limerick had 2 of and Offaly had, and Waterford had, or massively increase the numbers we have in development squads, and increase the number of age groups we have doing county winter training as Clare have done. To follow the Clare model we need more and better coaches to make themselves available, not easy given the apathy down here currently.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 10:58:38    2673267

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Replying To Magpie2:  "I think it was against Kildare in that final dead rubber game when he got 6 points from play but never got going in the next game against the same opposition in the round Robin.
Hasn't played since as far as I know.
Maybe he'll get some gametime today."
Was actually against Carlow in the League that Kinsella hit six points, after hitting four against Down in the previous round. But he didn't do very well against either Clare or Dublin, and so was actually dropped for the final League match v Kildare.


The "on paper" conclusion would be that he does okay against the so-called "weaker" sides, but struggles against stronger ones.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3621 - 16/05/2026 11:00:33    2673268

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Replying To Magpie2:  "I think it was against Kildare in that final dead rubber game when he got 6 points from play but never got going in the next game against the same opposition in the round Robin.
Hasn't played since as far as I know.
Maybe he'll get some gametime today."
Yes it was against Carlow My mistake.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 686 - 16/05/2026 11:44:23    2673274

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Replying To Magpie2:  "I think it was against Kildare in that final dead rubber game when he got 6 points from play but never got going in the next game against the same opposition in the round Robin.
Hasn't played since as far as I know.
Maybe he'll get some gametime today."
Think it was the league match v Carlow in Wexford park where he got 6 points but was poor the next day against Dublin

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 292 - 16/05/2026 11:44:41    2673275

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree winning an AI at underage would be good from the mental block point of view. And from the point of view of giving people a lift around the county.
But its not easy to do, especially bearing in mind the relative numbers of underage hurlers compared to ours that Tipp, Cork, Galway, Kilkenny and Dublin have. We likely need a golden generation to come along, like Limerick had 2 of and Offaly had, and Waterford had, or massively increase the numbers we have in development squads, and increase the number of age groups we have doing county winter training as Clare have done. To follow the Clare model we need more and better coaches to make themselves available, not easy given the apathy down here currently."
On your last line - reckon part of the issue is that many of the better coaches would could potentially be development squad coaches tend to stick with their clubs instead.

Given the choice between trying to win say a Minor Roinn 2 title with the club or trying to bring on a county U15 squad, they choose the club. Am not criticising them for that choice. Am just saying it what tends to happen.

But it then becomes an extremely difficult one to address when people say "we need better coaches with our underage squads" or "where did they get that crowd with the U16 squad? Had they nobody better?"

And that's not a dig at you either. I daresay you get it all right.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3621 - 16/05/2026 11:49:56    2673277

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I really hope I am wrong but I think come 7 30 or so tonight, we will have slipped even further down the pecking order in Leinster. Sad times really;(

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1221 - 16/05/2026 12:19:39    2673284

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Replying To Viking66:  "Agree winning an AI at underage would be good from the mental block point of view. And from the point of view of giving people a lift around the county.
But its not easy to do, especially bearing in mind the relative numbers of underage hurlers compared to ours that Tipp, Cork, Galway, Kilkenny and Dublin have. We likely need a golden generation to come along, like Limerick had 2 of and Offaly had, and Waterford had, or massively increase the numbers we have in development squads, and increase the number of age groups we have doing county winter training as Clare have done. To follow the Clare model we need more and better coaches to make themselves available, not easy given the apathy down here currently."
What age groups do Clare have doing winter training?

A cousin of mine took part in some sort of U11/U12 football development sessions for a few Fridays over the course of the winter, might have had to pay into it but got a jersey out of it and they all got to train with the Wexford senior footballers on top of the sessions they were doing (Might've been indoors)

It'd be a big help IMO if we got each club to nominate their three best players at each age from 10 to 13 each winter, would take them and divide them by district, each district would have four indoor training sessions every Friday for four weeks before Christmas and then for four weeks in January, each player would get a jersey and a wall ball out of, could maybe put the cost of entry at €35 or something, could maybe have the 10yos and 11yos in each district together for one hour and then the 12yos and the 13yos would come in for the hour after them, could move some clubs to other districts so that there were equal enough numbers in each district

Would also try to half-indoctrinate and tell them that if they hurl off the wall for 30 minutes for every day for the the next 10 years, then they'll hurl for Wexford. That's not necessarily true as other factors matter such as physical ability, mental ability, and tactical ability but if anyone hurled off the wall consistently for that length of time, their technical skills would come in leaps and bounds

Kids are very impressionable too, tell them something like that and they might believe it. Also think that if you give a lad a wall ball and get him started hurling off the ball, when the wall ball wears away, he'll probably ask his parents to get him a new ball as he'll have got into a routine and he'll probably want to stick to his routine

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 16/05/2026 12:47:30    2673287

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "On your last line - reckon part of the issue is that many of the better coaches would could potentially be development squad coaches tend to stick with their clubs instead.

Given the choice between trying to win say a Minor Roinn 2 title with the club or trying to bring on a county U15 squad, they choose the club. Am not criticising them for that choice. Am just saying it what tends to happen.

But it then becomes an extremely difficult one to address when people say "we need better coaches with our underage squads" or "where did they get that crowd with the U16 squad? Had they nobody better?"

And that's not a dig at you either. I daresay you get it all right."
Oh I get that alright. Have heard from several horses mouths that that is the case in fact.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 13:14:57    2673291

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "What age groups do Clare have doing winter training?

A cousin of mine took part in some sort of U11/U12 football development sessions for a few Fridays over the course of the winter, might have had to pay into it but got a jersey out of it and they all got to train with the Wexford senior footballers on top of the sessions they were doing (Might've been indoors)

It'd be a big help IMO if we got each club to nominate their three best players at each age from 10 to 13 each winter, would take them and divide them by district, each district would have four indoor training sessions every Friday for four weeks before Christmas and then for four weeks in January, each player would get a jersey and a wall ball out of, could maybe put the cost of entry at €35 or something, could maybe have the 10yos and 11yos in each district together for one hour and then the 12yos and the 13yos would come in for the hour after them, could move some clubs to other districts so that there were equal enough numbers in each district

Would also try to half-indoctrinate and tell them that if they hurl off the wall for 30 minutes for every day for the the next 10 years, then they'll hurl for Wexford. That's not necessarily true as other factors matter such as physical ability, mental ability, and tactical ability but if anyone hurled off the wall consistently for that length of time, their technical skills would come in leaps and bounds

Kids are very impressionable too, tell them something like that and they might believe it. Also think that if you give a lad a wall ball and get him started hurling off the ball, when the wall ball wears away, he'll probably ask his parents to get him a new ball as he'll have got into a routine and he'll probably want to stick to his routine"
Think Clare have lads in from u11 up to minor. 1 x 45 min session a week, 1 x 1.5 hour session a week for each coach with 24 coaches, 12 one night doing 1.5 hours, and 12 another night doing 1.5 hours. Or something like that from memory. It was a couple years ago I asked about it.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 19616 - 16/05/2026 13:18:51    2673292

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "So offaly favourites againt wexford, suits wexford, most of this offaly team is based on the the team that won the allireland, lets rem offaly only beat wexford by 2 in the leinster final"
That's true and they also have to back up last week's performance, have to remember that they were out-scored by 1-18 to 0-11 from play last week and Kilkenny hit 16 wides, we were very poor against Dublin but had we not handed them 1-03 and had we not him the same wide over and over again in the second half, we'd have had a shot at winning the game

Problem though is that as much as we could beat them, we've shown little all year and it's hard to believe that we'll show something this evening for the first time all year

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 1240 - 16/05/2026 14:14:38    2673300

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Is it common for counties to give ex players their first involvement in coaching a position with one of the teams? Surely we should be trying to get people with a bit of experience at least with a club team of some shape or form?

Waltermitty2 (Wexford) - Posts: 306 - 16/05/2026 15:42:48    2673312

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