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Dublin V Tyrone Should NOT Be In Croke Pk!

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Replying To tirawleybaron:  "If Dublin weren't getting Croker as a home pitch - they would have had to build a 20k stadium in Parnell park

To be honest, the GAA should take it off them as part of the deal to use Croke park and develop two big stands that can view the golf course and pitch - with Corporate boxes and charge to watch golf and Dublin football league and all hurling matches.

The league matches in Parnell were great criac. I remember a match between Mayo and Dublin in 2005, when all the Dublin kids lined up to get Ciaran McDonalds autograph - they couldnt resist the white boots and blonde hair - Mark Vaughan loved Mac so much he copied his look to make the Dublin team (and it worked)."
The plan was to sell Parnell Park many years ago (during the boom... 50million I believe) and to be honest I think it should be on the cards again purely to fund the development of a bigger stadium at the Spawell. A municipal stadium should have been developed in Tallaght when the opportunity was there but that's long gone.

Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1486 - 15/08/2025 06:33:56    2631973

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Replying To Square_B:  "The plan was to sell Parnell Park many years ago (during the boom... 50million I believe) and to be honest I think it should be on the cards again purely to fund the development of a bigger stadium at the Spawell. A municipal stadium should have been developed in Tallaght when the opportunity was there but that's long gone."
100% it should be sold.
The issue is Northside v Southside - hence the Spawell and Hollystown.
Dublin CB were asleep at the wheel here imo (yet again..!)...

If it cant be sold - my solution would be to redevelop the main stand in PP.
No space on the other 3 sides.
But this wont happen either.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4625 - 15/08/2025 09:59:48    2631980

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As Dublin supporters were saying themselves after the 2013 final v Mayo, Croke Park is "some advantage". Being their home league ground venue is great preparation for the business end of the championship.
The 2015 Munster final between Kerry and Cork in Killarney was a draw. As Páirc Uí Chaoimh was being redeveloped, the 2015 Munster final replay was also played in Killarney. "Some advantage" as well. It has to be said.
The 2016 All Ireland final then was a similar story for Dublin and Mayo. Home league ground advantage in the final and also the replayed final. "Some advantage" again. It has to be said.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9139 - 18/08/2025 13:16:50    2632461

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Replying To Fionn:  "100% it should be sold.
The issue is Northside v Southside - hence the Spawell and Hollystown.
Dublin CB were asleep at the wheel here imo (yet again..!)...

If it cant be sold - my solution would be to redevelop the main stand in PP.
No space on the other 3 sides.
But this wont happen either."
I would upgrade Parnell park but I would nt want a new stadium.Be careful what you wish for.If Dublin got a new stadium then any hold we have on croke park would evaporate and Hill 16 might be no more.In the mid 90s when Croke park was being re developed the gaa wanted Hill 16 to be an all seated stand to link in with the rest of the stadium.Architechts had plans to build the stand over the railway like the canal at the Davin end. Opposition to the plan by our supporters forced the gaa to abandon the idea T.G. The Hill is a special place in the hearts of Dublin people and I would hate to see it as a stand. As long as we keep filling the hill the gaa wont change but if Dublin got a new stadium then I fear our Hill would be taken from us. Some naive people think a stand cant be built over the railway.It can.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 298 - 18/08/2025 14:59:35    2632490

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Not forgetting the over a century of Advantages Kerry have had playing in a Hurling Province lol ...."
I dunno why you waste your time bud replying to that muppet.School is back next week thankfully so he wont be posting much.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 298 - 18/08/2025 15:13:37    2632494

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Replying To brayballer:  "I dunno why you waste your time bud replying to that muppet.School is back next week thankfully so he wont be posting much."
Are Primary schools back next week.?

It reminds me of his fellow county wum - KB....
Maybe you dont remember him...
Unrelenting BS,,,,

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4625 - 18/08/2025 15:43:18    2632501

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Replying To brayballer:  "I would upgrade Parnell park but I would nt want a new stadium.Be careful what you wish for.If Dublin got a new stadium then any hold we have on croke park would evaporate and Hill 16 might be no more.In the mid 90s when Croke park was being re developed the gaa wanted Hill 16 to be an all seated stand to link in with the rest of the stadium.Architechts had plans to build the stand over the railway like the canal at the Davin end. Opposition to the plan by our supporters forced the gaa to abandon the idea T.G. The Hill is a special place in the hearts of Dublin people and I would hate to see it as a stand. As long as we keep filling the hill the gaa wont change but if Dublin got a new stadium then I fear our Hill would be taken from us. Some naive people think a stand cant be built over the railway.It can."
Are you sure about that,?
1. The house owners behind the Hill objected to the stadium being completed with 3 tiers all round.
Blocked the natural light.
2. The cost of building over the railway tracks was also prohibitive and restrictive.
3. Even if we could get around both of these, the best thing to do was to have terracing at both ends - Hill & Canal End, with seats above both, in Premium and Upper levels. It would bring the capacity to close to 100k also, whilst also creating a massive atmosphere at both ends of the stadium.

Can't see Croke Park ever being expanded now though.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4625 - 18/08/2025 15:51:53    2632505

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Replying To Fionn:  "Are you sure about that,?
1. The house owners behind the Hill objected to the stadium being completed with 3 tiers all round.
Blocked the natural light.
2. The cost of building over the railway tracks was also prohibitive and restrictive.
3. Even if we could get around both of these, the best thing to do was to have terracing at both ends - Hill & Canal End, with seats above both, in Premium and Upper levels. It would bring the capacity to close to 100k also, whilst also creating a massive atmosphere at both ends of the stadium.

Can't see Croke Park ever being expanded now though."
Not 100 per cent but read about it on google.I know there were objections but there were objections on the canal side too and the stand still went ahead.Yes there were problems with the railway but architechts got over that one.I know Dublin supporters were very worried at the time and protested. Anyways all ended well but I would fear if Dublin got a new stadium that Croke park would be finished all way around, Another problem is people outside Ireland like entertainers and football fellas from Europe have passed comments saying its a fab stadium but its like someone took a bite out of the end of it regarding the hill.Its none of their business but unfortunately with the stadium being used now so much for concerts and american football and rugby I would nt be surprised if the gaa had a rethink again.Hopefully not as they should remember without the Dubs the stadium would have been half empty most of the time.

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 298 - 18/08/2025 16:59:00    2632513

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Replying To Fionn:  "Are Primary schools back next week.?

It reminds me of his fellow county wum - KB....
Maybe you dont remember him...
Unrelenting BS,,,,"
Yeah primary school back so his parents wont let him post so much. Not sure I remember KB. I used to read and scroll through Hs for years but did nt contribute then. I dont mid Kerry people at all tbh.They love their Football but most are sound bar a few muppets but sure we have a few ourselves too as has every county. I remember one horrible contributor from Kerry alright with a strange name but not sure it was Kb .I always thought alot of their contributors were sound enough like Geniusgerry Aibreann and Ciarraimick and there was a Horse fella that was sound too.However this young muppet take the biscuit

brayballer (Wicklow) - Posts: 298 - 18/08/2025 17:05:49    2632514

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Dublin supporters were instigating all talk of their Croke Park advantage after the 2013 final v Mayo. Some time later then it seemed to become a bone of contention for some. Possibly perceiving that they weren't getting credit from their opponents who don't have home league ground advantage at the business end of the championship.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9139 - 18/08/2025 17:27:10    2632517

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Replying To brayballer:  "Yeah primary school back so his parents wont let him post so much. Not sure I remember KB. I used to read and scroll through Hs for years but did nt contribute then. I dont mid Kerry people at all tbh.They love their Football but most are sound bar a few muppets but sure we have a few ourselves too as has every county. I remember one horrible contributor from Kerry alright with a strange name but not sure it was Kb .I always thought alot of their contributors were sound enough like Geniusgerry Aibreann and Ciarraimick and there was a Horse fella that was sound too.However this young muppet take the biscuit"
The veil drops with a lot of them every now and again.... Beating them for the 5 in a Row and of course 2023 brought out the worst in them, even the so called nice ones, who wanted us out of Croker and our funding cut.

I bypass a lot of the topics these days tbh - no time for BS and WUM.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4625 - 18/08/2025 17:35:21    2632518

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Replying To brayballer:  "Not 100 per cent but read about it on google.I know there were objections but there were objections on the canal side too and the stand still went ahead.Yes there were problems with the railway but architechts got over that one.I know Dublin supporters were very worried at the time and protested. Anyways all ended well but I would fear if Dublin got a new stadium that Croke park would be finished all way around, Another problem is people outside Ireland like entertainers and football fellas from Europe have passed comments saying its a fab stadium but its like someone took a bite out of the end of it regarding the hill.Its none of their business but unfortunately with the stadium being used now so much for concerts and american football and rugby I would nt be surprised if the gaa had a rethink again.Hopefully not as they should remember without the Dubs the stadium would have been half empty most of the time."
I honestly cant see Croke Park being redeveloped again.

More important to get Provincial grounds up to spec....

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4625 - 18/08/2025 17:36:55    2632519

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Replying To brayballer:  "Yeah primary school back so his parents wont let him post so much. Not sure I remember KB. I used to read and scroll through Hs for years but did nt contribute then. I dont mid Kerry people at all tbh.They love their Football but most are sound bar a few muppets but sure we have a few ourselves too as has every county. I remember one horrible contributor from Kerry alright with a strange name but not sure it was Kb .I always thought alot of their contributors were sound enough like Geniusgerry Aibreann and Ciarraimick and there was a Horse fella that was sound too.However this young muppet take the biscuit"
I love the regularity of his posts, each one gives me a nice warm fuzzy feeling knowing Dublin is living in his head rent free. Here we are 5 years after the 6 in a row and he can't let it go. A lot of lads in Kerry genuinely believed their 5 players with 8 AI medals would never be touched. Not only do we have 3 of our lads on 9, we also have 8 of our lads on 8 medals as opposed to their 5. Don't take my word for it though you only have to read the kerry forum to see some lads saying it really broke their hearts.

So let this lad post away to his hearts content as it's a beautiful reminder of good times!

The roll of honour in titles and medals is well and truely written in stone and I dont think some lone Kerry schoolboy is ever going to change that!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 357 - 18/08/2025 18:25:43    2632525

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Replying To legendzxix:  "As Dublin supporters were saying themselves after the 2013 final v Mayo, Croke Park is "some advantage". Being their home league ground venue is great preparation for the business end of the championship.
The 2015 Munster final between Kerry and Cork in Killarney was a draw. As Páirc Uí Chaoimh was being redeveloped, the 2015 Munster final replay was also played in Killarney. "Some advantage" as well. It has to be said.
The 2016 All Ireland final then was a similar story for Dublin and Mayo. Home league ground advantage in the final and also the replayed final. "Some advantage" again. It has to be said."
Nothing compared to the over 100 years of advantages Kerry have enjoyed playing in a Hurling Province ,"it must be said":-)

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2876 - 18/08/2025 21:51:56    2632551

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The ad hominem comments are amusing. The facts are the facts. Dublin supporters were very bullish in talking about their Croke Park advantage after the 2013 final v Mayo.
The word on the street is that Dublin supporters have changed. They used to be good craic. Seen that myself at the 2009 quarter final and 2011 final. Good craic win or lose.
The word on the street anyway is that the perceived lack of credit from counties who are striving to win the All Ireland without home league ground advantage has changed Dublin supporters. The ironic thing is that Dublin supporters were very bullish in talking about their Croke Park advantage after the 2013 final v Mayo. It is what it is.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9139 - 19/08/2025 07:54:59    2632573

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Replying To legendzxix:  "The ad hominem comments are amusing. The facts are the facts. Dublin supporters were very bullish in talking about their Croke Park advantage after the 2013 final v Mayo.
The word on the street is that Dublin supporters have changed. They used to be good craic. Seen that myself at the 2009 quarter final and 2011 final. Good craic win or lose.
The word on the street anyway is that the perceived lack of credit from counties who are striving to win the All Ireland without home league ground advantage has changed Dublin supporters. The ironic thing is that Dublin supporters were very bullish in talking about their Croke Park advantage after the 2013 final v Mayo. It is what it is."
100 years of Kerry advantages, it is what it is but time to end it now , it must be said

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2876 - 19/08/2025 12:31:51    2632648

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Replying To superbluedub:  "Christ not this **** again !!"
2025 is a good year for this discussion. Dublin had home league ground advantage against Tyrone in the quarter final. Tyrone cantered away to victory following a combative second half display. Tyrone are a tough team. It was an impressive performance.
Home league ground advantage is an advantage - whether the home team win, lose or draw. Fly by night characters might only want this discussion if the home team wins. That doesn't acknowledge a fine victory by Tyrone. A dangerous opponent going forward.
This discussion is as relevant in 2025 as it was in 2013 when Dublin supporters were waxing lyrical about Croke Park being "some advantage".

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 9139 - 19/08/2025 19:02:29    2632739

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Replying To legendzxix:  "2025 is a good year for this discussion. Dublin had home league ground advantage against Tyrone in the quarter final. Tyrone cantered away to victory following a combative second half display. Tyrone are a tough team. It was an impressive performance.
Home league ground advantage is an advantage - whether the home team win, lose or draw. Fly by night characters might only want this discussion if the home team wins. That doesn't acknowledge a fine victory by Tyrone. A dangerous opponent going forward.
This discussion is as relevant in 2025 as it was in 2013 when Dublin supporters were waxing lyrical about Croke Park being "some advantage"."
2025 is indeed a good year for discussion
Kerry have over a century of advantages from playing in a Munster Province , it must end now .

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2876 - 19/08/2025 22:50:03    2632766

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Replying To superbluedub:  "2025 is indeed a good year for discussion
Kerry have over a century of advantages from playing in a Munster Province , it must end now ."
I've been going to Croke Park following Dublin since '74 and played through the 70's, 80's, and 90's I can vividly remember 1980 when that Kerry team were at their peak, with a lot of their supporters sniggering because they only had to play 3 games to win the all ireland that year. A bye straight to the Munster final as the provincial board wanted to avoid Kerry dishing out as many thumpings as possible such was / is the imbalance of playing in a hurling province! And nothing has changed really!

Onion_Sack (Dublin) - Posts: 357 - 20/08/2025 09:58:04    2632800

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Replying To Onion_Sack:  "I've been going to Croke Park following Dublin since '74 and played through the 70's, 80's, and 90's I can vividly remember 1980 when that Kerry team were at their peak, with a lot of their supporters sniggering because they only had to play 3 games to win the all ireland that year. A bye straight to the Munster final as the provincial board wanted to avoid Kerry dishing out as many thumpings as possible such was / is the imbalance of playing in a hurling province! And nothing has changed really!"
100% , and instead of celebrating his Counties All Ireland win, with all its advantages , this **** is on here whinging about Dublin !

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2876 - 20/08/2025 11:08:19    2632811

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