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Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below
Saturday
Meath (average following) v Galway (average following)
Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team)
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Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following)
Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal)
Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry.
Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -
tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1463 - 24/06/2025 15:47:08
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Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" Yer man thinks no one goes to football games nowadays!!!
Seanfanbocht (Roscommon) - Posts: 2464 - 24/06/2025 15:48:51
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Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below Saturday Meath (average following) v Galway (average following) Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team) Sunday Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following) Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal) Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry. Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -"
Anyway, other than that, if you flip them like you say, Galway are the ones screwed over. Galway have traveled 50% more distances than Donegal this year (after you exclude the NY trip), and played an away game Sunday. I think both teams should've gotten the 7 day turnaround, but there is at least a logical reason why one was chosen over the other for Saturday
PressureKick (UK) - Posts: 304 - 24/06/2025 16:08:03
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Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" You are 100% correct. Was no way Galway and Donegal could both be accomadated after the way the draw worked out. Your fellow county man Walter Mitty is now whinging in sympathy with the Donegal cries. Maybe now he will get it into his little head that all games in the group stages have consequences. Donegal could have saved themselves all this bother by winning their group.
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 648 - 24/06/2025 16:25:01
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Replying To Scenicparish: " Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" In other words money comes before Player Welfare..."
ORIELMAN85 (Monaghan) - Posts: 648 - 24/06/2025 16:26:19
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Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below Saturday Meath (average following) v Galway (average following) Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team) Sunday Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following) Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal) Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry. Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -"
CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 157 - 24/06/2025 16:30:09
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Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below Saturday Meath (average following) v Galway (average following) Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team) Sunday Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following) Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal) Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry. Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -"
Plus Donegal just had a home game, Galway had an away game, they had to travel further, and get the extra day. And the fact there hasn't been a whimper out of the on their knees begging for the extra day off tells you all you need to know to.
I guess the lesson to be learned here is win your group and you'll play less games, have less traveling, and get a bigger rest.
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Monaghan and Meath to be sent on their Summer Holidays this Weekend as Jimmy and PJ are winning matches Jimmy and PJ are winning games......my tip at the start Galway v Donegal All Ireland Final.
Hopefully We don't meet in the Semi Final!
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2645 - 24/06/2025 17:26:09
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Replying To katser: "Monaghan and Meath to be sent on their Summer Holidays this Weekend as Jimmy and PJ are winning matches Jimmy and PJ are winning games......my tip at the start Galway v Donegal All Ireland Final.
Hopefully We don't meet in the Semi Final!" Hopefully not but we need to get through this weekend first....
Scenicparish (Donegal) - Posts: 625 - 24/06/2025 19:44:04
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Replying To Scenicparish: "Hopefully not but we need to get through this weekend first...." They are only sticky games for us both because the opposition have had a rest ....
where as We both are full tilt 3 weeks on the bounce. But man v man and player ability Galway and Donegal are better than Meath and Monaghan respectively.
Stoney grey soil and the Royals Goodbye.
katser (Galway) - Posts: 2645 - 24/06/2025 20:22:01
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Replying To katser: "Monaghan and Meath to be sent on their Summer Holidays this Weekend as Jimmy and PJ are winning matches Jimmy and PJ are winning games......my tip at the start Galway v Donegal All Ireland Final.
Hopefully We don't meet in the Semi Final!" I sense a discomfort at the prospect of a Monaghan or Meath upsetting the so called establishment that only really was founded in the recent bleak years during the death knell of Gaelic football. Counties with good natural footballers willing to have a go and play to their strengths have every opportunity now as opposed to the previous 10-15 years. Alot of arrogance has been built up from some success during the dark times of Gaelic Football which hasn't huge relevance to the New game. All 8 teams left in the competition have wonderful players but any sign of entitlement or arrogance from managers, players or even supporters could be quickly knocked back!
winatallcost (Meath) - Posts: 713 - 24/06/2025 20:25:02
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Replying To CeachtPeile: " Replying To tirawleybaron: "[quote=CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below Saturday Meath (average following) v Galway (average following) Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team) Sunday Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following) Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal) Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry. Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -"
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4115 - 24/06/2025 20:34:29
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Replying To tirawleybaron: " Replying To CeachtPeile: "It must be wonderful to have such clarity for dealing with complex problems. Perhaps you should join a fixture making committee where your simplistic skills would no doubt be appreciated. I quote from the Irish Times which elucidates the conflicting constraints involved. Fixture making tends to look a more straightforward when you are not the one balancing those constraints.
"The CCCC were left in a quandary with trying to square the circle in terms of the four fixtures because it was always going to prove difficult to facilitate requests from all eight counties.
The core problem centred on the likelihood of both Dublin v Tyrone and Armagh v Kerry attracting massive numbers of spectators. With those matches possibly pushing towards selling out even if they were standalone fixtures, the demand to attend that pairing on the same bill would have left thousands of fans without tickets.
Fixture makers did still consider the possibility of scheduling that double-header but after examining the expected attendance figures they determined those games should be on different days."
" So tell me why it couldn't be the below Saturday Meath (average following) v Galway (average following) Tyrone (big following) v Dublin (home team) Sunday Monaghan (small county but they will all go) v Donegal (big following) Armagh (big following) v Kerry (no crowd for qfinal) Sticking Donegal and Monaghan, Tyrone and Dublin on the one day will result in a much bigger crowd than having Kerry and Armagh on with Dublin and Kerry. Lets face it - Donegal got shafted for no reason - just a misplaced idea that Kerry folks might actually travel in June -"
I fail to see your logic.
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A simple question… Can the GAA do anything right…? They seem to be hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot on a regular basis…
ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 4115 - 25/06/2025 06:19:53
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Replying To ForeverBlue2: "A simple question… Can the GAA do anything right…? They seem to be hell bent on shooting themselves in the foot on a regular basis…" Yes
Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12423 - 25/06/2025 10:18:56
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