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Replying To Canuck:  "Beat Clare even though given no chance. Beaten by a juggernaut flying Limerick team by 6 points. Let's see how the rest can do against them. There is such a desire to write Waterford off. Maybe we will not win another game but as of now still in the championship When and if not some of us will follow these great teams without bias."
"There is such a desire to write Waterford off." Really? Where from and why?

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2790 - 12/05/2025 09:21:39    2608679

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Replying To Canuck:  "Beat Clare even though given no chance. Beaten by a juggernaut flying Limerick team by 6 points. Let's see how the rest can do against them. There is such a desire to write Waterford off. Maybe we will not win another game but as of now still in the championship When and if not some of us will follow these great teams without bias."
From everything I read beforehand, Waterford were seen as a real danger to Clare. Playing at home against a Clare team missing some key players, who'd also been to the well a few times the previous week against Cork.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2325 - 12/05/2025 09:26:28    2608681

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What is it with Clare and exceptionally bad first halves where they do their very best to lose the game? Under Lohan they have lost the AI Semi final to KK by half time in 2022, trailing by 14 points. In the 2024 Semi final it again should have been game over by half time but for a string of huge saves by Eibhear Quilligan.

In last years All ireland final they made a very poor start and were 7 points behind after 15 minutes.

Cork in the league this year.... down 9 points at half time. Cork in championship this year, down 12 points at half time.

Tipp on Saturday, 9 points down at half time and should have been more but for wasteful Tipp shooting (probably 15 points but for John McGrath blazing over and a fine save from Quilligan off Jake Morris.

If Saturday was a one off you could lament it and really praise the comeback. but you cant when its a reoccurring theme that hasn't been addressed.

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 56 - 12/05/2025 14:27:36    2608856

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Replying To Canuck:  "Beat Clare even though given no chance. Beaten by a juggernaut flying Limerick team by 6 points. Let's see how the rest can do against them. There is such a desire to write Waterford off. Maybe we will not win another game but as of now still in the championship When and if not some of us will follow these great teams without bias."
Waterford won't fear either Tipp or Cork. Waterford is a fine side. But for that square ball goal Tipp got last year, scandalous how it was allowed, they'd have gone through and not Cork. So, when Munster comes down to such narrow margins, nobody can afford to be writing anyone off!

foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2248 - 12/05/2025 15:33:04    2608891

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A win for tipp or Waterford I think guarantees they get out of Munster..if we beat cork it means the last match v Clare won't matter but defeat to cork could leave the Clare match a winner take all..
Hoping it won't come to Clare match cos they'd love to get rid of us from Munster and all Ireland..
In fairness to Clare if any team are missing3/4 of starting defenders then they're in trouble.I don't know what has happened with the dropping of Aidan mc Carthy??
How was shanaher not used ?
Tipp got goals and even though Clare pulled it back they left themselves to much to do..the mcgraths are flying and look like they having a new lease of life..tipp/Waterford could be outstanding on Sunday and I'm leaning towards a Waterford win.

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2519 - 12/05/2025 15:59:59    2608910

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Replying To CTGAA10:  "A win for tipp or Waterford I think guarantees they get out of Munster..if we beat cork it means the last match v Clare won't matter but defeat to cork could leave the Clare match a winner take all..
Hoping it won't come to Clare match cos they'd love to get rid of us from Munster and all Ireland..
In fairness to Clare if any team are missing3/4 of starting defenders then they're in trouble.I don't know what has happened with the dropping of Aidan mc Carthy??
How was shanaher not used ?
Tipp got goals and even though Clare pulled it back they left themselves to much to do..the mcgraths are flying and look like they having a new lease of life..tipp/Waterford could be outstanding on Sunday and I'm leaning towards a Waterford win."
"A win for tipp or Waterford I think guarantees they get out of Munster"
Yep- Tipp win they would have 5 and head-to-head over Waterford and Clare.
Waterford win and they would have 4 and more points than Tipp and Clare can get
A draw would leave both very much alive, although Waterford would almost certainly need something from the Cork
game
Tipp are at home but Waterford have the 2 week rest. And Saturday night was a punishing game.

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 118 - 12/05/2025 17:05:00    2608936

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Replying To Yadse:  ""A win for tipp or Waterford I think guarantees they get out of Munster"
Yep- Tipp win they would have 5 and head-to-head over Waterford and Clare.
Waterford win and they would have 4 and more points than Tipp and Clare can get
A draw would leave both very much alive, although Waterford would almost certainly need something from the Cork
game
Tipp are at home but Waterford have the 2 week rest. And Saturday night was a punishing game."
I think if you are level on points it is the head first and scoring difference. If Tipp and Waterford draw then it would be scoring. At moment Waterford have a better scoring difference but it would depend on if beaten by Cork by how much. Tipp scoring difference took a bashing against Cork. Still a lot to play for. Limerick and Cork look good but if any one of them loose last matches would change also.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3061 - 12/05/2025 20:00:00    2608995

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I could be wrong but I think the only results that would actually eliminate anyone this weekend would be if Limerick and Cork Draw (putting them on 4 points each) and Waterford and Tipperary Draw (which puts Tipp on 4 points and Waterford on 3 points but Waterford would have the head to head over the best that Clare could do even if they were to beat Limerick in the last game). Outside of that anyone could still survive.

Any team winning this weekend is guaranteed qualify out of Munster other than that it is all to play for

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 156 - 13/05/2025 10:19:42    2609109

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "I could be wrong but I think the only results that would actually eliminate anyone this weekend would be if Limerick and Cork Draw (putting them on 4 points each) and Waterford and Tipperary Draw (which puts Tipp on 4 points and Waterford on 3 points but Waterford would have the head to head over the best that Clare could do even if they were to beat Limerick in the last game). Outside of that anyone could still survive.

Any team winning this weekend is guaranteed qualify out of Munster other than that it is all to play for"
I have thought all year that Limerick & Cork are ahead of everyone else Kilkenny Galway Tipp & Waterford all doing ok as well. I think any hope Clare had of making a qualifying spot went last Saturday yet there are a few permutations but cant see Limerick slip up in the TUS Gaelic Grounds they look very classy & assured last day out . All the pieces in place Hayes @ 6 Lynch @ 11. Reading today that we will make history in having shortest reign as AI Champions however we had a great year last year with League & AI win we might cause a huge upset tomorrow nigh & win U20 Final best of luck to all the teams still in championship.

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 987 - 13/05/2025 12:52:27    2609186

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Replying To clooney:  "I have thought all year that Limerick & Cork are ahead of everyone else Kilkenny Galway Tipp & Waterford all doing ok as well. I think any hope Clare had of making a qualifying spot went last Saturday yet there are a few permutations but cant see Limerick slip up in the TUS Gaelic Grounds they look very classy & assured last day out . All the pieces in place Hayes @ 6 Lynch @ 11. Reading today that we will make history in having shortest reign as AI Champions however we had a great year last year with League & AI win we might cause a huge upset tomorrow nigh & win U20 Final best of luck to all the teams still in championship."
There many hurling counties would only love have won a league and All Ireland title in 2024 and I always say, nobody can take away the memories made and the feelings you had, when your county wins the ultimate prize.

I was at the Clare U20 round robin against Limerick. Clare have some very talented players and physically they were much stronger than Limerick. I'm tempted to drop into the Gaelic Grounds tomorrow as a neutral as feel it could have the makings of a classic.

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 156 - 13/05/2025 15:11:07    2609246

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "There many hurling counties would only love have won a league and All Ireland title in 2024 and I always say, nobody can take away the memories made and the feelings you had, when your county wins the ultimate prize.

I was at the Clare U20 round robin against Limerick. Clare have some very talented players and physically they were much stronger than Limerick. I'm tempted to drop into the Gaelic Grounds tomorrow as a neutral as feel it could have the makings of a classic."
I can't recall Clare having a bad minor or Under 20 team over the last number of years. The future of hurling in the Banner is secure for many more years.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 604 - 13/05/2025 20:36:57    2609358

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Aidan McCarthy dropping bombs in Clare this afternoon.....................Brian Lohan is gonna be maaaaaaad

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 156 - 14/05/2025 15:17:46    2609597

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How's every feeling about the coming weekend.

Cork are the form Team in 2025. The forwards (all six) are devastating, Pace and Skill to burn. Brian Hayes and Darragh Fitzgibbon are in Hurler of the Year contention at this stage. They are heading to Limerick after three weeks off to recharge, which should allay any concerns some people were spouting that they seem to fade out of games in the second half because of the extra ordinary tempo they play in the first half of each match racking up goals and killing teams off.

Limerick had indifferent league form with lots of personnel changes in and out each match, but now (barring and late injuries) seem to have nearly a full deck to pick from for the first time in a number of years. They have had two very good outings in Championship to date, and look like they are rediscovering their mojo. I feel like there won't be much in this match either way

Tipperary are now showing a steely resolve that had been lacking for a number of years. They always had top hurlers but they now have a game plan where everyone appears comfortable in their roles. There's a big prize for them if they can do the business in Thurles.

Waterford won't fear Tipperary one bit and after a week off last week, are more than capable of turning over Tipperary in Thurles. A win would also be massive for them and I expect them to leave it all on the field. Again there won't be much in this match either.

LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 156 - 14/05/2025 15:46:29    2609608

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Aidan McCarthy dropping bombs in Clare this afternoon.....................Brian Lohan is gonna be maaaaaaad"
I think he was getting some criticism about "walking out"
Fair enough to say I was fit, I was ready, I wasnt selected, and Lohan is perfectly entitled to leave a guy off

The question I would have is was he at the game sitting in the stand with the rest of the panel?
Do the Clare squad have policy on guys not in the match day squad playing for their clubs on game day, or being present at games?
Surely in the event of an injury pre game you would want a guy like McCarthy around to come in to the match day squad? (standard practice in rugby where teams bring several guys to games who are not in the squad)
And for squad bonding you want everybody there, even if they are not in the match day squad
This is poor management to allow this "controversy" to emerge.
McCarthy shouldn't have been left in this position where he felt he had to say something on social media

Lohan owes him an apology, not for not selecting him, but for not making clear he was still an important member of the panel.

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 118 - 14/05/2025 16:29:17    2609624

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Lads, I know in reality they do not have a fiddlers in reality but there seems to be a few wholly unlikely scenarios where Clare could get out of Munster. Does anybody know what they are?

MiAmigaVERONICA (Clare) - Posts: 324 - 14/05/2025 19:02:35    2609668

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Replying To MiAmigaVERONICA:  "Lads, I know in reality they do not have a fiddlers in reality but there seems to be a few wholly unlikely scenarios where Clare could get out of Munster. Does anybody know what they are?"
It's simple really.
Clare need both Limerick and Waterford to lose all their remaining games.
If that happens Clare will qualify in 3rd place on head to head rule as Limerick and Clarecwould both be on 3 points.

Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 980 - 15/05/2025 00:20:00    2609724

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Replying To MiAmigaVERONICA:  "Lads, I know in reality they do not have a fiddlers in reality but there seems to be a few wholly unlikely scenarios where Clare could get out of Munster. Does anybody know what they are?"
I can see 3 possible scenarios
1. Limerick lose twice and Waterford lose twice
Than Clare end with 3 points 1 more than Waterford and edge Linerivk on head to head
2. Limerick lose twice and Waterford lose to Cork but draw with Tipp. Clare, Limerick and Waterford end with 3 points and one goes through in scoring difference
3. Cork lose twice, and Tipp lose to Waterford. Then Clare, Tipp and Cork finish on three points with one going through on scoring diff

Yadse (Limerick) - Posts: 118 - 15/05/2025 02:25:31    2609729

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Replying To Yadse:  "I can see 3 possible scenarios
1. Limerick lose twice and Waterford lose twice
Than Clare end with 3 points 1 more than Waterford and edge Linerivk on head to head
2. Limerick lose twice and Waterford lose to Cork but draw with Tipp. Clare, Limerick and Waterford end with 3 points and one goes through in scoring difference
3. Cork lose twice, and Tipp lose to Waterford. Then Clare, Tipp and Cork finish on three points with one going through on scoring diff"
Cant see Limerick lose any game it will be decided this weekend I would like to see Waterford get through its well within there compass. Unfortunately cannot see any hope for Clare I am still going to TUS Gaelic grounds on Sunday week will enjoy the hurling anyway.

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 987 - 15/05/2025 11:02:27    2609775

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Replying To Yadse:  "I think he was getting some criticism about "walking out"
Fair enough to say I was fit, I was ready, I wasnt selected, and Lohan is perfectly entitled to leave a guy off

The question I would have is was he at the game sitting in the stand with the rest of the panel?
Do the Clare squad have policy on guys not in the match day squad playing for their clubs on game day, or being present at games?
Surely in the event of an injury pre game you would want a guy like McCarthy around to come in to the match day squad? (standard practice in rugby where teams bring several guys to games who are not in the squad)
And for squad bonding you want everybody there, even if they are not in the match day squad
This is poor management to allow this "controversy" to emerge.
McCarthy shouldn't have been left in this position where he felt he had to say something on social media

Lohan owes him an apology, not for not selecting him, but for not making clear he was still an important member of the panel."
McCarthy was worse to come out and say something. He should have said nothing. Sure people could see that if he was able to tog out for his club then he would have been able to tog out for the county. He wouldn't have had any need to make a statement. That would have said it all.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2336 - 15/05/2025 13:23:28    2609813

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Replying To Bon:  "McCarthy was worse to come out and say something. He should have said nothing. Sure people could see that if he was able to tog out for his club then he would have been able to tog out for the county. He wouldn't have had any need to make a statement. That would have said it all."
I don't agree.. the rumour mill had it that McCarthy walked off in a huff and left the panel because he wasn't starting..
If the truth is that he was dropped off the panel that needed to be said.. for his sake.. he has given everything to Clare and suffered injuries and came back. He 100% didn't deserve to be dropped (maybe a break from the free taking ...yes) and would've been the difference on Saturday had he been there.. this was Lohans call.. rightly or wrongly.. in my opinion wrongly but that's the joys of management. And I feel he has made a few poor or late decisions that has cost Clare over the last few years. Fantastic win last year by the way after a very up and down year.

twbm (Clare) - Posts: 37 - 15/05/2025 14:25:28    2609825

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