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Replying To Cockney_Cat: " Replying To Ryanteam: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park. link" Probably an aside at this point, but I often wondered about the feasibility of hosting All Ireland hurling finals outside Dublin. I have attended All Ireland hurling finals at Croke Park, where the native population has little or no interest in the proceedings. The 1984 All Ireland final between Cork and Offaly was hosted in Thurles due to centenary year, and the atmosphere was far superior."
The final is not just for the two competing counties, but for the whole GAA community. This usually means that the two finalists never get a sufficient ticket allocation, with plenty of neutral fans in attendance, which can effect the atmosphere.
45,000 in Thurles for a Munster final is a great atmosphere. I wouldn't mind seeing the Leinster Final being played in Thurles, but that will probably never happen. Better a 35K to 40K crowd in Thurles than in Croke Park."]If we ever get there again there will be more than 40k at it.
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Replying To Doylerwex: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "[quote=Ryanteam: "[quote=Cockney_Cat: "That's fine for Cork. But my comment was to do with the amount of neutral games, not involving Cork being play at Páirc Uí Chaoimh. A lot of these games could be played elsewhere in grounds more convenient for the travelling fans. This is all down to the debt still to be paid, currently around €31m, of which €12m is owed to Croke Park. link" Probably an aside at this point, but I often wondered about the feasibility of hosting All Ireland hurling finals outside Dublin. I have attended All Ireland hurling finals at Croke Park, where the native population has little or no interest in the proceedings. The 1984 All Ireland final between Cork and Offaly was hosted in Thurles due to centenary year, and the atmosphere was far superior."
The final is not just for the two competing counties, but for the whole GAA community. This usually means that the two finalists never get a sufficient ticket allocation, with plenty of neutral fans in attendance, which can effect the atmosphere.
45,000 in Thurles for a Munster final is a great atmosphere. I wouldn't mind seeing the Leinster Final being played in Thurles, but that will probably never happen. Better a 35K to 40K crowd in Thurles than in Croke Park."]Depends who's in the Leinster final. There'll be 60k of we're in it"]You're right. I was thinking of some the low attendances in recent years. There was 60k in attendance for the Wexford v Galway Leinster final in 2017, and 51k in 2019 v Kilkenny.
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How are we feeling about the League Final?
Cork look like the team to beat. The way they played against Clare and Galway in particular was devastating. They are very intelligent with their play, and move the ball so fast and deliberately. They generally keep three inside forwards and feed them as quick as they can, however the strike runners from midfield can also cause havoc.
I do think however the Liam Cahill and Mikey Bevans will have a plan to try and nullify Cork (while the rest of the Intercounty hurling management teams will be keeping a close eye on this match to see how they get on). I think Tipperary are the most improved team this year and I think this game might be tighter than some will suspect.
Hopefully we see a good game and the ref lets them play it without becoming the centre of attention himself.
LimerickandProud (Limerick) - Posts: 121 - 01/04/2025 11:15:50
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "How are we feeling about the League Final?
Cork look like the team to beat. The way they played against Clare and Galway in particular was devastating. They are very intelligent with their play, and move the ball so fast and deliberately. They generally keep three inside forwards and feed them as quick as they can, however the strike runners from midfield can also cause havoc.
I do think however the Liam Cahill and Mikey Bevans will have a plan to try and nullify Cork (while the rest of the Intercounty hurling management teams will be keeping a close eye on this match to see how they get on). I think Tipperary are the most improved team this year and I think this game might be tighter than some will suspect.
Hopefully we see a good game and the ref lets them play it without becoming the centre of attention himself." Should be a good game in front of a bumper crowd. Cork are without their ace forward Brian Hayes,but have a readymade replacement in Alan Connolly. Ryan has done a good job in building up a strong squad, with coverage in every position, whilst Tipperary are much improved this year,and have beaten Cork in league. Although it's a league final the focus will be on championship a few weeks away!
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 484 - 01/04/2025 20:20:36
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I know this isn't to do with the league, but as there's no championship forum yet I might as well post here. Surely this is unprecedented that tickets for the championship went on sale, and less than an hour and a half later, two out of the three Cork matches are completely sold out. With the exception of Waterford in the Páric. Only a few tickets left on the City End Terrace left.
Wonder is it due to the revival in the youth engagement with the sport? Or maybe even the revial of support for the Cork team. Maybe even both. Of course there's two teams with two sets of supporters in each game. But I'd be surpised if Cork were outnumbered in terms of fans in any of the games.
With the small hike in prices I'm sure the GAA is rolling in the money right now. Hopefully they can use this extra income for good and make the game more accesible for all. Televising all the games that they can. Nightmare of GAA Go to be over.
HonCork (Cork) - Posts: 5 - 02/04/2025 14:23:47
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Replying To HonCork: "I know this isn't to do with the league, but as there's no championship forum yet I might as well post here. Surely this is unprecedented that tickets for the championship went on sale, and less than an hour and a half later, two out of the three Cork matches are completely sold out. With the exception of Waterford in the Páric. Only a few tickets left on the City End Terrace left.
Wonder is it due to the revival in the youth engagement with the sport? Or maybe even the revial of support for the Cork team. Maybe even both. Of course there's two teams with two sets of supporters in each game. But I'd be surpised if Cork were outnumbered in terms of fans in any of the games.
With the small hike in prices I'm sure the GAA is rolling in the money right now. Hopefully they can use this extra income for good and make the game more accesible for all. Televising all the games that they can. Nightmare of GAA Go to be over." The GAA was always rolling in money.
Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2228 - 02/04/2025 15:12:18
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What do these GAA administrators use for brains fixing Offaly and Waterford for Cork. Many Waterford supporters travelled to Belfast to support the team and now no tickets for Sunday. Total disrespect for Offaly supporters who support hurling and football having to travel to the southwest but they also have no access to tickets. Then I realized what it is. Greed. Making sure every last seat is filled in Cork to pay their bill for a stadium that now is the Mecca for other sports and events. Paying for the white elephant that no one ever wanted to go to before it was refurbished.
Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2992 - 02/04/2025 20:38:16
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Replying To Canuck: "What do these GAA administrators use for brains fixing Offaly and Waterford for Cork. Many Waterford supporters travelled to Belfast to support the team and now no tickets for Sunday. Total disrespect for Offaly supporters who support hurling and football having to travel to the southwest but they also have no access to tickets. Then I realized what it is. Greed. Making sure every last seat is filled in Cork to pay their bill for a stadium that now is the Mecca for other sports and events. Paying for the white elephant that no one ever wanted to go to before it was refurbished." Not the case at all. Pore decision from the GAA fixing the 1B final as part of a double header as based on league attendances, this would have been a sell out regardless. Also nothing wrong with Offaly being asked to play in Cork. It is a massive occasion and I'm sure that's what they would want too. Will stand to them come c'ship.
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Replying To Canuck: "What do these GAA administrators use for brains fixing Offaly and Waterford for Cork. Many Waterford supporters travelled to Belfast to support the team and now no tickets for Sunday. Total disrespect for Offaly supporters who support hurling and football having to travel to the southwest but they also have no access to tickets. Then I realized what it is. Greed. Making sure every last seat is filled in Cork to pay their bill for a stadium that now is the Mecca for other sports and events. Paying for the white elephant that no one ever wanted to go to before it was refurbished." Cork and Tipp would have filled that stadium on Sunday by themselves, and in fact was a sellout a few hours after tickets went on sale. Waterford and Offaly should have gone ahead at Nowlan Park, but I guess for whatever reason GAA wanted to host both finals together.All championship games involving Cork are sold out…
Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 484 - 03/04/2025 00:42:06
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Pity Offaly/Waterford wasn't in nowlan park,a lot of supporters from both just have no chance of getting a ticket for cork..tipp/cork was always going to get a full house..
Looking forward to both these games..would be great to see Offaly get a senior trophy at the higher level but I don't know if they'll have enough for Waterford,especially when they seem to be getting all the important players back,and will almost be at full strength.
Tipp and cork have impressed and I think both really want to win this final..cork have a knack of opening up defences and getting goals..the midfield battle will be enormous,cork have two fab hurlers here with fitzgibbon getting most of plaudits but o mahony is a fair detail..connors is playing super for tipp and has got great scores..huge test ahead for tipp full back line.hayes a loss for cork but they seem to have ready made replacements now which might have been lacking 2/3years ago..young McCarthy has a huge test ahead against tight and physical corner backs.
I'd fancy cork maybe by 5 points unless a sendng off affects the whole outcome..as a neutral great to be able to sit back and enjoy it.
CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2488 - 03/04/2025 14:13:10
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Replying To LimerickandProud: "How are we feeling about the League Final?
Cork look like the team to beat. The way they played against Clare and Galway in particular was devastating. They are very intelligent with their play, and move the ball so fast and deliberately. They generally keep three inside forwards and feed them as quick as they can, however the strike runners from midfield can also cause havoc.
I do think however the Liam Cahill and Mikey Bevans will have a plan to try and nullify Cork (while the rest of the Intercounty hurling management teams will be keeping a close eye on this match to see how they get on). I think Tipperary are the most improved team this year and I think this game might be tighter than some will suspect.
Hopefully we see a good game and the ref lets them play it without becoming the centre of attention himself." They look like the team to beat now but there is a long way to the all Ireland. As Cyril Farrell says if you let Cork dance they'll dance. Once championship starts and there is far less time and space on the ball we'll really see what they are made of. Clare and Limerick will love the Cork hype. Tipp will hopefully give them a right rattle this weekend and looking forward to a great game. Cork are a fantastic team to watch. You know they will test you with long ball straight down the middle but also they have the quickest team in the land. I think Tipp will have their homework done and it could be tight but the greater firepower of Cork will win the day.
Limerick were off form last year and losing Barry Nash and DOD was just too much in the semis, our half back line also suffered big time without DOD as he sits in there and keeps the whole thing ticking and feeds Gillane with beautiful ball, he's a proper midfielder who plays with his head and moves the ball intelligently. We still ran Cork close while being a long way off our best. Even if Limerick don't get back to their very best but show small improvements on last year i still think we will take some stopping.
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Replying To Fitzy01: "They look like the team to beat now but there is a long way to the all Ireland. As Cyril Farrell says if you let Cork dance they'll dance. Once championship starts and there is far less time and space on the ball we'll really see what they are made of. Clare and Limerick will love the Cork hype. Tipp will hopefully give them a right rattle this weekend and looking forward to a great game. Cork are a fantastic team to watch. You know they will test you with long ball straight down the middle but also they have the quickest team in the land. I think Tipp will have their homework done and it could be tight but the greater firepower of Cork will win the day.
Limerick were off form last year and losing Barry Nash and DOD was just too much in the semis, our half back line also suffered big time without DOD as he sits in there and keeps the whole thing ticking and feeds Gillane with beautiful ball, he's a proper midfielder who plays with his head and moves the ball intelligently. We still ran Cork close while being a long way off our best. Even if Limerick don't get back to their very best but show small improvements on last year i still think we will take some stopping." Hope that League Final is a cracker two of the best teams around at the moment bar Limerick who had no interest in qualifying for the latter stages the Cork team look leather the supposedly soft core well gone now there backs are the hardest in the game IMO and there full forward line is terrifying in full flow. I agree DOD is such an underrated & skilful player for Limerick he does all the things you describe Limerick id say are chomping at the bit as they definitely feel they would have won last year they left Cork in the championship in the Pairc.
We will soon know who is up for the prize Munster is a real Bear pit to get the 3rd Spot even is a huge achievement
clooney (Clare) - Posts: 975 - 04/04/2025 09:34:03
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Replying To Canuck: "What do these GAA administrators use for brains fixing Offaly and Waterford for Cork. Many Waterford supporters travelled to Belfast to support the team and now no tickets for Sunday. Total disrespect for Offaly supporters who support hurling and football having to travel to the southwest but they also have no access to tickets. Then I realized what it is. Greed. Making sure every last seat is filled in Cork to pay their bill for a stadium that now is the Mecca for other sports and events. Paying for the white elephant that no one ever wanted to go to before it was refurbished." How many Waterford fans would have travelled to Belfast now Canuck? Waterford are as poorly supported as Dublin hurlers to be frank.
You are right about Pairc Ui Chaoimh though, I remember the drive there for Wexford v Clare a few years ago and will never be back there. Bad location, bad access, terrible road from Wexford, even my enthusiastic children said not to do that drive again.
They should have played Waterford v Offaly in Nowlan Park.
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Replying To Ben10: "Not the case at all. Pore decision from the GAA fixing the 1B final as part of a double header as based on league attendances, this would have been a sell out regardless. Also nothing wrong with Offaly being asked to play in Cork. It is a massive occasion and I'm sure that's what they would want too. Will stand to them come c'ship." There is everything wrong with asking Offaly to go to Cork. It will probably be a 3+ hour drive on match day. Look at a map, there's this place called Kilkenny half way between Offaly and Waterford. I live in Wexford and drove to an All-Ireland Quarter final there and me and my children said never again.
PUC a lovely stadium in a BRUTAL location. It will never be enjoyable to go there for a match for so many counties. The stadium to get upgraded to that standard was Thurles. Its a total white elephant and yet the GAA are insisting on using it as much as possible, but as Wexford and Clare fans showed a few years ago people vote with their feet quickly enough.
Its fine when Cork are playing, but to me it is brutal for most other counties.
ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1298 - 04/04/2025 11:01:52
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