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Replying To Breffni40:  "Unless you have experience in live tv presenting and are finding obvious unprofessional errors then I wouldn't get too worked up about it.

If it's a personal dislike for whatever reason, maybe remind yourself then that not everyone has the same opinion as you and you specifically might not be the target audience for everything broadcast. Like I say, there's a context and perspective outside of your own bubble. Enjoy it for what it is"
Not getting worked up about it. Just an observation and a personal opinion that since Michael Lyster retired he has proven to be irreplaceable

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 17/06/2025 13:42:22    2618713

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Well I can watch in Melbourne, so I doubt it....."
Maith thú, GRMA.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9828 - 17/06/2025 14:00:20    2618717

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Replying To Breffni40:  "I find myself constantly batting for RTE at times and I have no skin in the game, but their coverage is generally very good. People whinge about everything all the time. Nothing is good enough for sports fans. It's a strange phenomenon.

Can't remember what came it was recently but Peter Canavan and Tomás O'Sé were the pundits in the studio. This is like having Pele and Maradona in the studio for a soccer match and you can guarantee there were thousands of people sneering at their analysis thinking these lads haven't a clue, they don't know ball like I do.

I mean if people were able to get things in perspective they might actually enjoy it. People are desperate to find ways to make themselves angry"
Well said. I fully agree. Constant whingeing from armchair experts about people who are doing their best to provide excellent coverage within the constraints they have.
And, on top of that, you have the nutcase conspiracy theorists who think that draws are fixed.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 17/06/2025 14:17:59    2618728

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "Not getting worked up about it. Just an observation and a personal opinion that since Michael Lyster retired he has proven to be irreplaceable"
I disagree. He was very good in his time but nobody is irreplaceable and those who have followed on are doing a fine job. I'm sure if they weren't that would be evident to those in charge and they would be replaced.
I have no doubt if Michael Lyster was still presenting he'd be shipping the same avalanche of criticism from the armchair 'broadcasting experts' on forums such as these.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 17/06/2025 14:28:49    2618734

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "I disagree. He was very good in his time but nobody is irreplaceable and those who have followed on are doing a fine job. I'm sure if they weren't that would be evident to those in charge and they would be replaced.
I have no doubt if Michael Lyster was still presenting he'd be shipping the same avalanche of criticism from the armchair 'broadcasting experts' on forums such as these."
That's your opinion but it's wrong

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 17/06/2025 14:41:25    2618741

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "I disagree. He was very good in his time but nobody is irreplaceable and those who have followed on are doing a fine job. I'm sure if they weren't that would be evident to those in charge and they would be replaced.
I have no doubt if Michael Lyster was still presenting he'd be shipping the same avalanche of criticism from the armchair 'broadcasting experts' on forums such as these."
He wouldn't be the same presenter now as 20 years ago, neither would Pat Spillane. Spillane in podcasts still, not RTE, likes the banter and craic. The 2025 RTE PC editing/censoring would make them lesser presenters. Both had a sense of humour and could let analysts speak or rant and knew what to say to liven up proceedings. They had a sense of humour too which is lacking, for me, on The Sunday Game. Not just GAA presenters on RTE. No McGurk or O'Herlihy. Don't seem to be in touch with what an audience wants to see.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8112 - 17/06/2025 17:03:58    2618793

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "He wouldn't be the same presenter now as 20 years ago, neither would Pat Spillane. Spillane in podcasts still, not RTE, likes the banter and craic. The 2025 RTE PC editing/censoring would make them lesser presenters. Both had a sense of humour and could let analysts speak or rant and knew what to say to liven up proceedings. They had a sense of humour too which is lacking, for me, on The Sunday Game. Not just GAA presenters on RTE. No McGurk or O'Herlihy. Don't seem to be in touch with what an audience wants to see."
They need less analysis and show more footage, that would be a good start.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2405 - 17/06/2025 21:36:30    2618859

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "He wouldn't be the same presenter now as 20 years ago, neither would Pat Spillane. Spillane in podcasts still, not RTE, likes the banter and craic. The 2025 RTE PC editing/censoring would make them lesser presenters. Both had a sense of humour and could let analysts speak or rant and knew what to say to liven up proceedings. They had a sense of humour too which is lacking, for me, on The Sunday Game. Not just GAA presenters on RTE. No McGurk or O'Herlihy. Don't seem to be in touch with what an audience wants to see."
That's a good point. Don't like Brolly but there was an edge to it when himself and O'Rourke and Spillane were there. Passionate men who spoke their minds.

Ciarán was great player but dull as dishwater, McManus is only new to it but he's not exactly brimming with charisma and insight.

Hurling is a bit better but mainly because of Donal Óg who can spark off the others and is not afraid to bring up things others ignore. . Sheedy is very good and probably most balanced of them all.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3647 - 17/06/2025 23:29:24    2618886

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "He wouldn't be the same presenter now as 20 years ago, neither would Pat Spillane. Spillane in podcasts still, not RTE, likes the banter and craic. The 2025 RTE PC editing/censoring would make them lesser presenters. Both had a sense of humour and could let analysts speak or rant and knew what to say to liven up proceedings. They had a sense of humour too which is lacking, for me, on The Sunday Game. Not just GAA presenters on RTE. No McGurk or O'Herlihy. Don't seem to be in touch with what an audience wants to see."
That's exactly it, the new breed of pundits have been drilled with the idea that sky sports like stats are what we want, such and such had a 27.5% kicking success rate. Absolute junk, just tell us the number of shots on goals and the numbers of wides and that'll be enough for us to make up our own minds.

There seems to be a fashion show competition on it also.

Coupled with all that is that certain presenters like to give their own opinions and it is just not a good view

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 18/06/2025 09:18:53    2618906

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "That's a good point. Don't like Brolly but there was an edge to it when himself and O'Rourke and Spillane were there. Passionate men who spoke their minds.

Ciarán was great player but dull as dishwater, McManus is only new to it but he's not exactly brimming with charisma and insight.

Hurling is a bit better but mainly because of Donal Óg who can spark off the others and is not afraid to bring up things others ignore. . Sheedy is very good and probably most balanced of them all."
The likes of Brolly, Spillane, Loughnane, Dunphy, Hook made people watch rte sport because they never knew what these lads would say. RTE sport doesn't want this kind of pundit anymore.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 18/06/2025 09:26:46    2618908

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "That's exactly it, the new breed of pundits have been drilled with the idea that sky sports like stats are what we want, such and such had a 27.5% kicking success rate. Absolute junk, just tell us the number of shots on goals and the numbers of wides and that'll be enough for us to make up our own minds.

There seems to be a fashion show competition on it also.

Coupled with all that is that certain presenters like to give their own opinions and it is just not a good view"
Again, you are not the protaganist of life. They're trying to cater to as many people as possible, not you personally. I'm sorry is this is some kind of revelation for you

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12412 - 18/06/2025 10:21:29    2618928

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Replying To Breffni40:  "Again, you are not the protaganist of life. They're trying to cater to as many people as possible, not you personally. I'm sorry is this is some kind of revelation for you"
Thanks for the pound shop advice there. Compare the viewing figures of the show now to back 10 years ago.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 18/06/2025 11:11:31    2618950

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "Thanks for the pound shop advice there. Compare the viewing figures of the show now to back 10 years ago."
Compare any tv show viewing figures then and now. There are other media now if you haven't noticed

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12412 - 18/06/2025 11:19:36    2618955

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "That's your opinion but it's wrong"
That's your opinion but it's wrong.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 18/06/2025 11:37:37    2618960

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "He wouldn't be the same presenter now as 20 years ago, neither would Pat Spillane. Spillane in podcasts still, not RTE, likes the banter and craic. The 2025 RTE PC editing/censoring would make them lesser presenters. Both had a sense of humour and could let analysts speak or rant and knew what to say to liven up proceedings. They had a sense of humour too which is lacking, for me, on The Sunday Game. Not just GAA presenters on RTE. No McGurk or O'Herlihy. Don't seem to be in touch with what an audience wants to see."
Rose-tinted glasses stuff here. I'm sure they'll be saying the same about today's presenters in 20 years time.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 18/06/2025 11:41:06    2618961

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "That's exactly it, the new breed of pundits have been drilled with the idea that sky sports like stats are what we want, such and such had a 27.5% kicking success rate. Absolute junk, just tell us the number of shots on goals and the numbers of wides and that'll be enough for us to make up our own minds.

There seems to be a fashion show competition on it also.

Coupled with all that is that certain presenters like to give their own opinions and it is just not a good view"
That's a bizarre take that statistics don't matter. You're dealing with the most educated population in the world so I think most people can appreciate their significance. It seems a bit much though to expect the viewer to work them out for themselves instead of presenting them in a digestible manner.

CeachtPeile (Cavan) - Posts: 152 - 18/06/2025 11:47:36    2618968

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "That's your opinion but it's wrong."
How can someone's opinion be wrong just because you don't like it

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2405 - 18/06/2025 13:31:18    2619000

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Replying To Bon:  "How can someone's opinion be wrong just because you don't like it"
I don't dislike it, it is just wrong. I neither like or dislike

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 18/06/2025 14:07:48    2619010

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Replying To CeachtPeile:  "That's a bizarre take that statistics don't matter. You're dealing with the most educated population in the world so I think most people can appreciate their significance. It seems a bit much though to expect the viewer to work them out for themselves instead of presenting them in a digestible manner."
You seem to think it is a good product so fair play to you

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 385 - 18/06/2025 14:14:15    2619011

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "The quality of the Galway Armagh game was pretty ropey at times. Looks like a bad video from the 1980s"
The urc upload a game onto YouTube every week. They already uploaded the urc final for fans who cannot afford to pay and for marketing reasons.

How bad has things got that the rugby community are thinking about fans unable to pay more than the GAA community? Why don't the GAA+ upload the best game onto the YouTube channel like the rugby do? It will help grow the channel and provide disadvantaged fans a chance to watch a great game.

Kew (Galway) - Posts: 214 - 18/06/2025 15:33:05    2619035

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