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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I dunno, I think there are some unfair comments being made about Dublin here, they were teriffic and could hardly have hurled any better, saying they didn't have to bring anything out of the ordinary doesn't align with hitting 3-26 and only 4 wides

I'm not sure we were even cleaned out that badly in the physical stakes up until their first goal but everything seemed to go south for us from that point on, we only really started hitting wides then and our decision-making went to pot

Think it's worth remembering that we gave away two goals to Dublin in two minutes and two goals to Antrim in maybe five minutes last year, three goals in five minutes today is a continuation of that and shows how soft our spine is. All those goals conceded happened without Jippo on the pitch; would we still be have been ok with him in the pitch, I don't know but what I do know is that we don't have any other full-back in the squad"
I will say this, their shooting efficiency was really good.

In spite of the 10 or so incidents that went against us in error or on purpose I'm not sure, there are a number of things we could having done ourselves.

Foley was out of the game completely in the second half. This was the time to drop him back. Most of what they won were breaks off our defence.

That or stop conceding the puck outs at the other end knowing the ball would keep coming down our neck.

Again, wides an issue for us, some of which were really poor.

Anyway..... plenty of hurling left

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3527 - 27/04/2025 06:42:01    2604536

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Watched the game this morning here as too late to stay up, the most worrying thing for me is that we conceded the puck out, time and time again, which gave Dublin the 25 yards they needed to get the ball to the edge of the square and cause murder. Why didn't we change it? It was killing us. It was so basic tactic yet we never changed it. Parnell is too small a pitch to concede every puck out.
There is a place for a bull on the edge of the square as Limerick are showing with Shane O'Brien and Dublin showed yesterday. We just don't have that bull.

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1820 - 27/04/2025 06:58:00    2604538

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Watched the game this morning here as too late to stay up, the most worrying thing for me is that we conceded the puck out, time and time again, which gave Dublin the 25 yards they needed to get the ball to the edge of the square and cause murder. Why didn't we change it? It was killing us. It was so basic tactic yet we never changed it. Parnell is too small a pitch to concede every puck out.
There is a place for a bull on the edge of the square as Limerick are showing with Shane O'Brien and Dublin showed yesterday. We just don't have that bull."
We do have that Bull, the problem is we only have if him and we need that Bull at midfield, centre forward, full forward and probably centre back aswel…..Lee Chin

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 913 - 27/04/2025 08:46:18    2604542

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Have to say at the start of the 2nd half you could could actually feel the dublin momentum in front of the wexford goal building and it was only a matter of time before Dublin scored a goal . I think the management should have recognised this problem faster and take full responsibility. I don't like the blame game but it was very evident to see.Hopefully the management don't take these factful comments personal and just move on and try to be sharper in the heat of battle the next time

Jimbob96 (Wexford) - Posts: 25 - 27/04/2025 09:11:25    2604546

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Replying To Viking66:  "That's unkind to Dublin to be honest. They outworked us, played at a higher tempo, won nearly every ruck in the 2nd half, broke faster than we did, wasted less ball, got turned over less often, made faster and better decisions, and just plain wanted it more. Alots been said about Hethertons size in posts here, but his hurling was excellent also."
What's unkind about my comment?

Yep they done all that stuff you mention but as per my previous post what's out of the ordinary there?

I thought dublin were very good on the night but imho probably have another gear in them.

That's my point. Yes they only hit 4 wides but 90% of the shots they took at goal were taken from inside our 65 with most even closer inside our 45 and they were taken those shots under minimal pressure most of the time. Fair play they done it but the point is we allowed them, moreover we set up in a way to encourage it. Give any top club team that freedom for shots from those ranges and they will yield similar results.

Dublin came out with ball after ball straight up the pitch time after time when they broke up our attack and for 70 plus min's we conceded 30 odd metres or so for them to advance and launch high ball after high ball on to out full back line. But we allowed then do it, all game!

I'm not taking away from Dublin at all but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the Dublin management team are this morning kinda thinking to themselves that was a little bit easier than we thought it was going to be and they would be 100% right.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1480 - 27/04/2025 09:31:14    2604549

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "Watched the game this morning here as too late to stay up, the most worrying thing for me is that we conceded the puck out, time and time again, which gave Dublin the 25 yards they needed to get the ball to the edge of the square and cause murder. Why didn't we change it? It was killing us. It was so basic tactic yet we never changed it. Parnell is too small a pitch to concede every puck out.
There is a place for a bull on the edge of the square as Limerick are showing with Shane O'Brien and Dublin showed yesterday. We just don't have that bull."
Agreed. Such a small pitch. Don't think I was ever as frustrated watching it happen for each puck out.

Watched match back last night. Although we had some wides, Dublin looked by far the better team. Tactically they won the fight.

I said yesterday in moments after the match that yesterday's performance was akin to the start of the league and I stand by that.

Fair play to Dublin.

We need a result against Galway now. A defeat in that game and we go into Offaly match with a real risk of a relegation dog fight.

Deflated this morning.

Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 129 - 27/04/2025 09:50:03    2604551

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Replying To fathermurphy:  "I can't believe the two umpires told fanning the ball had not crossed the line,then was overruled by the ref. That was a massive momentum swing, I still feel we would of won that game today, the heads went down after penalty, , A massive save by Fanning which will be marked down as a goal for Dublin and no credit to Fanning, All games should have technology, we would of won that game today otherwise! Momentum swings are massive in hurling"
Wrong decision alright, but there was still plenty of time left, brutal wides from play and frees is what cost Wexford. Better team won. Players have to take responsibility too.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2260 - 27/04/2025 10:33:42    2604559

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Hidden in the post match views is the fact that I thought it was a terrific game which Dublin deservedly won and every bit as exciting as last weeks games in Munster. Had everything… and loads of controversy thrown in as well which unfortunately we were in the receiving end of. I was fuming at the referee over the penalty and head high challenge on chin.
Just a mention on chin. He's the greatest Wexford hurler I've seen in my lifetime and even Dublin supporters around me yesterday were in awe of the man saying he's unmarkable .

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 538 - 27/04/2025 11:02:29    2604567

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Replying To tearintom:  "What's unkind about my comment?

Yep they done all that stuff you mention but as per my previous post what's out of the ordinary there?

I thought dublin were very good on the night but imho probably have another gear in them.

That's my point. Yes they only hit 4 wides but 90% of the shots they took at goal were taken from inside our 65 with most even closer inside our 45 and they were taken those shots under minimal pressure most of the time. Fair play they done it but the point is we allowed them, moreover we set up in a way to encourage it. Give any top club team that freedom for shots from those ranges and they will yield similar results.

Dublin came out with ball after ball straight up the pitch time after time when they broke up our attack and for 70 plus min's we conceded 30 odd metres or so for them to advance and launch high ball after high ball on to out full back line. But we allowed then do it, all game!

I'm not taking away from Dublin at all but I wouldn't be one bit surprised if the Dublin management team are this morning kinda thinking to themselves that was a little bit easier than we thought it was going to be and they would be 100% right."
I posted on the Leinster championship thread earlier in the week that I thought Dublin would go direct. How Rossi and his management didn't anticipate what was coming is hard to fathom and our inability to do anything about it for so long cost us the game

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 538 - 27/04/2025 11:07:58    2604569

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Very disappointed with the performance yesterday and from management team. Thought our forwards didn't work near hard enough letting Dublin out with the ball way too easily. Conceding nearly every puck out was killing us too why did management not tell the lads to push up . Why did management not put Shane Reck or someone else on Hetherton. To be fair to Conor Foley he is more at home at wing back or midfield . I won't comment on the referee we all know he had a huge bearing on the game giving Dublin that goal and some very questionable frees . I hope Chins finger is not broken we will be under serious pressure without him. If we have Jack O Connor back starting and Mac coming on in Galway aswell as Liam Ryan and Shane Reck starting we still have a chance although it's a big ask in Salthill. My team for the next day would be
Fanning
S Reck
Liam Ryan
E Ryan
Molloy
D Reck
C Foley
Donohoe
Hearne
Jacko
Chin
Dunbar
K Foley
ROC
Cian Byrne

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 530 - 27/04/2025 11:11:38    2604571

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The Galway game is pretty much a knock-out game for us although not quite as much for them funnily enough (Them losing the H2H to Kilkenny likely won't matter whereas us losing the H2H to Dublin will likely matter a lot more)

Assuming KK beat Antrim, Dublin beat Antrim, and KK beat Offaly, that would mean that if we were to lose to Galway, we would need to beat Offaly and KK and hope that Dublin were to beat Kilkenny in Nowlan Park and/or Antrim were to beat Galway in Salthill and also hope that Dublin beat Galway in Parnell Park in the last round

We beat Galway and then we're in a situation where 3 points from our last 4 would guarantee getting out of Leinster and four would maybe get us into the Leinster Final (Could be a three-way tie between us, KK, and Dublin in that instance; would come down to score difference in the three games so might need to beat KK by 5+ in that case to guarantee a Leinster Final)

If we were to beat Galway, Galway could still qualify by beating Antrim and Dublin and then hoping that we beat KK although this would mean 3rd rather than a Leinster Final. If they lose to us, their only chance of making a Leinster Final involves us losing to KK and Galway coming ahead of both us on Dublin on points difference in the three H2H games

If we beat Galway, the likelihood is that KK will have something to play for against us. On the other hand, if we either draw with or lose to Galway, KK will likely have nothing to play for in the last round

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 456 - 27/04/2025 11:24:21    2604573

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "I posted on the Leinster championship thread earlier in the week that I thought Dublin would go direct. How Rossi and his management didn't anticipate what was coming is hard to fathom and our inability to do anything about it for so long cost us the game"
Maybe Rossi and his management did anticipate what was coming, but couldn't do much about it. Hetherton was a real handful and had a brilliant game.

Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2730 - 27/04/2025 11:38:00    2604576

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Very disappointed with the performance yesterday and from management team. Thought our forwards didn't work near hard enough letting Dublin out with the ball way too easily. Conceding nearly every puck out was killing us too why did management not tell the lads to push up . Why did management not put Shane Reck or someone else on Hetherton. To be fair to Conor Foley he is more at home at wing back or midfield . I won't comment on the referee we all know he had a huge bearing on the game giving Dublin that goal and some very questionable frees . I hope Chins finger is not broken we will be under serious pressure without him. If we have Jack O Connor back starting and Mac coming on in Galway aswell as Liam Ryan and Shane Reck starting we still have a chance although it's a big ask in Salthill. My team for the next day would be
Fanning
S Reck
Liam Ryan
E Ryan
Molloy
D Reck
C Foley
Donohoe
Hearne
Jacko
Chin
Dunbar
K Foley
ROC
Cian Byrne"
All well good having the best team on field but if we concede puck out again Galway will do the same as Dublin did yesterday… and there forwards are bigger and we have always struggled against them down through the years physically… I do expect though Jack Connor to come straight back in and Mac if fit.. Liam Ryan to start aswell instead of mcguckian think Conor foley wil start again had a though day yesterday but think he is a far better hurler than mcguckian.. it's a must win game for us now. Was going to suggest that they would be weaker as daithi Burke wil be suspended after being sent off yesterday.. but Dublin were missing 2 of there best players and we still could of beat them.. lads just on chin anyone else agree that he is Wexfords greatest hurler??

gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 312 - 27/04/2025 12:11:19    2604583

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Firstly, very good game to watch. Some excellent scores and bits of play and the few mistakes that added to it. The penalty decision was annoying and wrong but on the whole Dublin probably did shade it and played better as a whole. They were impressive enough when they were in full flow but do have a few limitations no more than ourselves. The biggest negative was our slowness to change stuff on the field, haven't seen us get punished under a high ball in the full back line like that since the 2018 game v Galway when they just hit Johnny Glynn about a million times and just squashed us. Thought it wasn't fair on Conor Foley, it was clear after 10/15 mins that it was a mismatch. I was a little surprised at Rossiter as a man who spent his career in that full back line that he left it for so long and cost us big time.
Think it was a missed chance. If you told me a year ago that we'd play Dublin without Eoghan O'Donnell, Danny Sutcliffe and Donal Burke I'd have said we should be winning by 5/6 points but fair play to Dublin, it was a very impressive showing. We're under a bit of pressure especially if we loose in Salthill. Didn't think we'd go unbeaten in round robin but no point in saying it doesn't set us back a bit but the two week break doesn't come at a bad time. Good to see Liam Ryan get on, he did look very fit if not a small bit short on hurling which is to be expected. On the plus side, Daithi Burke straight red card is a nice little boost for us for the next day, especially for a defence that's looked a bit suspect without him.
Also Chin is just immense, I've never seen a Wexford hurler to put the county on his back like him, we've had some very good hurlers even when we've been a bit off the top table but none like him. I don't think I'd swap him for any hurler in Ireland atm. Only one I'd think about is maybe Kyle Hayes as the only one who's as big an athletic freak and can hurl. Chin was outrageous on the puck out even when some of Fannings puck outs were coming either too short or a bit off. Rory had moments of high quality but just goes out of the game so much whether he's playing well or not. Just can't let the bottom fall out of the year now with another loss or two.

Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin (Wexford) - Posts: 307 - 27/04/2025 13:17:22    2604593

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Replying To Bon:  "Wrong decision alright, but there was still plenty of time left, brutal wides from play and frees is what cost Wexford. Better team won. Players have to take responsibility too."
Wexford were 3 up, penalty was a massive swing for Dublin, wexford got deflated, I feel they would of won it otherwise, all we want is fair play. With the penalty and Chin getting battered around the field is not fairplay! hopefully we get justice in the next few matches

fathermurphy (Wexford) - Posts: 325 - 27/04/2025 14:06:18    2604598

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Don't know if I'd really take issue with Rory's performance, scored 1-02 from play and set up another goal, my issue is not with him or Cian Byrne but rather with the ball going into them, Dublin played a lot better ball into the corners (Under little pressure) in the first half that we did at any stage in the game, suppose a lot of our strategy seems to be hit it long to Lee on the wing which isn't a bad strategy but it starves our inside forwards of quality ball

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 456 - 27/04/2025 14:06:42    2604599

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "Don't know if I'd really take issue with Rory's performance, scored 1-02 from play and set up another goal, my issue is not with him or Cian Byrne but rather with the ball going into them, Dublin played a lot better ball into the corners (Under little pressure) in the first half that we did at any stage in the game, suppose a lot of our strategy seems to be hit it long to Lee on the wing which isn't a bad strategy but it starves our inside forwards of quality ball"
To be fair to the forwards they all well.enough to scoreboard. I thought ROC did very well actually. We scored 4:19.

I think the issues yesterday were the obvious lack.of physicality in defence and that's the worrying thing,.we.cant fix that problem.

The forwards were alright

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 355 - 27/04/2025 14:44:04    2604607

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Let's be honest here, we are still tactically naive and inexperienced on the line at the top level compared to our peers in Leinster, nevermind the Munster bearpit.

Offaly-Johnny Kelly won two AI club titles with Portumna, brought them to another and also brought Boris-Ileagh to one.

Antrim-Davy's star may have waned but has undoubted pedigree.

Dublin- manager current AI winning club manager, exudes a Jim Gavin-like zen on the sideline

Galway-Donoghue back for a second stint after breaking their AI hoodoo in 2017

KK- Lyng may have his critics, but had huge shoes to fill, and taking his record in isolation, we'd kill for that form

At the end of the day, we were too slow to make changes that ultimately cost us and we don't seem to have a defined gameplan outside of giving it to Lee. There in no evidence to suggest the conceding of puck-outs ever works, so why we persist with it so often boggles the mind.

On Chin's greatness, he has to be in our top 5 best of all-time. Hard to look past Nicky Rackard given his legendary standing in the game, and didn't see Doran play but Lee is definitely this generation's Tony, only not an out-and-out full-forward.

beano (Wexford) - Posts: 1484 - 27/04/2025 14:52:04    2604609

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We could have hurled better yesterday and I know there's been some doom and gloom on here but I think our performance yesterday could've beaten Waterford and definitely would've beaten Clare, if Cork aren't miles clear ahead of everyone, then I don't think any team is really that much better than us at our best (Not saying we're even going to get out of Leinster though)

Our performance two years ago against Dublin in Croker was much worse and even in defeat yesterday with some of the soft scores we gave away in the first 15 minutes and the five minute collapse where we conceded three goals, I don't think we played any worse than we did against Dublin in '24, Antrim in '24, Galway in '23, Antrim in '23, Westmeath in '23, Galway in '22, Dublin in '22, and Westmeath in '22

I think we have something to work with going into the Galway game, having Jippo back, pushing Conor Foley up to wing-back in place of McGuckian, and pressing up on puck-outs should make a difference (Would also help if we had Damien Reck on the wing and Cian Molloy at 6, Reck would offer us more scoring power out on the wing and Molloy is a better sitter but that change is very unlikely to happen unfortunately)

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 456 - 27/04/2025 15:46:03    2604615

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Over the 70 odd minutes, Dublin deserved to win. They miss only 4 wides and made no real mistakes. We were beaten on the line as well, which is a big worry. Apart from the obvious(bringing liam on earlier, changing foley of your man and pushing up on the puck outs) we missed 11 wides, even if we hit half that it would of helped massively. Fanning pucked two balls straight to a Dublin player which resulted in 2 points for Dublin in the first half. The hand pass leading up to the crazy penalty goal was something u would see in a junior B game. Chin missed 2/3 straight in front of the posts frees which u just cannot miss. We just cannot be making the same mistakes and starting the same players who make these mistakes, time after time.
Management as well as some players need to have a long hard look in the mirror.
Hope we are at the very least injury free for Galway amd run them really close. It is all about staying up now never mind 3rd place.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1115 - 27/04/2025 16:35:54    2604627

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