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Nice bit of talent there but they will need time. The two foleys are losses, hopefully oisin will be back next year. Any word on liam og?who are the players to come back in, Jack O, Chin? Whelan at 3 and Molly at 6 for the league (look to the future)really hope cillian Byrne gets game time, he is a cracking talent
hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1035 - 08/01/2025 14:22:39
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Replying To hunting: "Nice bit of talent there but they will need time. The two foleys are losses, hopefully oisin will be back next year. Any word on liam og?who are the players to come back in, Jack O, Chin? Whelan at 3 and Molly at 6 for the league (look to the future)really hope cillian Byrne gets game time, he is a cracking talent" Yes Chin, Jacko and Liam Og not named in the training panel. I presume and hope all 3 will be back at some stage. Agree with you on Whelan , Molloy and Cillian Byrne. I think we will need to mix youth with some experience throughout the league. The Likes of Mac, Damien and ROC will need to step up as leaders. All we want out of the league is 1. A definite style of play that suits us 2. We are competitive as we can in every game hopefully picking up enough wins to stay in the top tier. 3. We need a couple of young lads to really grab their chance and be a certain starter for us come championship. 4. Keep Our big experienced players fit and hurling well coming into championship.
Im really excited to see how all the new lads in the panel fare I think we could see a good few championship debuts for us this year
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Yes Chin, Jacko and Liam Og not named in the training panel. I presume and hope all 3 will be back at some stage. Agree with you on Whelan , Molloy and Cillian Byrne. I think we will need to mix youth with some experience throughout the league. The Likes of Mac, Damien and ROC will need to step up as leaders. All we want out of the league is 1. A definite style of play that suits us 2. We are competitive as we can in every game hopefully picking up enough wins to stay in the top tier. 3. We need a couple of young lads to really grab their chance and be a certain starter for us come championship. 4. Keep Our big experienced players fit and hurling well coming into championship.
Im really excited to see how all the new lads in the panel fare I think we could see a good few championship debuts for us this year" Leave Jacko in Oz where he is
Some good new talent coming thru
Whelan and rowley the pick of them
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Replying To Spidey1: "Leave Jacko in Oz where he is
Some good new talent coming thru
Whelan and rowley the pick of them" We don't have the luxury of excluding somebody like Jack. He may be inconsistent but he's an excellent hurler and a physical presence we really need.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 08/01/2025 22:25:00
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Replying To hunting: "Nice bit of talent there but they will need time. The two foleys are losses, hopefully oisin will be back next year. Any word on liam og?who are the players to come back in, Jack O, Chin? Whelan at 3 and Molly at 6 for the league (look to the future)really hope cillian Byrne gets game time, he is a cracking talent" A real shame about the foleys but we need to move on now I think.
We know who we have for this year now and we just need to build with that.
Be great if Mogie did give it another year but I don't think he will.
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Replying To Afinestick96: "Yes Chin, Jacko and Liam Og not named in the training panel. I presume and hope all 3 will be back at some stage. Agree with you on Whelan , Molloy and Cillian Byrne. I think we will need to mix youth with some experience throughout the league. The Likes of Mac, Damien and ROC will need to step up as leaders. All we want out of the league is 1. A definite style of play that suits us 2. We are competitive as we can in every game hopefully picking up enough wins to stay in the top tier. 3. We need a couple of young lads to really grab their chance and be a certain starter for us come championship. 4. Keep Our big experienced players fit and hurling well coming into championship.
Im really excited to see how all the new lads in the panel fare I think we could see a good few championship debuts for us this year" Agree 100% in terms of league objectives.
I'd be comfortable enough if we finished bottom and achieved the rest in advance if the championship once we don't get hammered.
Ideally we'd have a settled 15 who are confident in their jobs for the Antrim game and beyond.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 08/01/2025 22:28:18
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Replying To Doylerwex: "A real shame about the foleys but we need to move on now I think.
We know who we have for this year now and we just need to build with that.
Be great if Mogie did give it another year but I don't think he will." It's a huge commitment. And success breeds success in that way also- lads would be more likely to commit if they thought we had a good chance of winning something every year, rather than maybe winning something if everything goes right for us (injuries, form, decisions, luck) in a given year. In that way it's also a vicious circle. A few good lads not committing means that consistent success is that little bit harder to achieve.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 09/01/2025 09:48:26
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Replying To Viking66: "It's a huge commitment. And success breeds success in that way also- lads would be more likely to commit if they thought we had a good chance of winning something every year, rather than maybe winning something if everything goes right for us (injuries, form, decisions, luck) in a given year. In that way it's also a vicious circle. A few good lads not committing means that consistent success is that little bit harder to achieve." Absolutely, and Mogie owes Wexford nothing. The fact he came back from the two serious injuries early in his career is amazing too. He changed his game completely from one reliant on explosive pace to just pure intelligent hurling. As Wexford players of the last 30 years go I'd rate him as one of the greats.
Having said that even having him in the dressing room for another season would be great.
A couple of the lads I know say he's a brilliant example in training and always going 100%
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 09/01/2025 10:38:45
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Absolutely, and Mogie owes Wexford nothing. The fact he came back from the two serious injuries early in his career is amazing too. He changed his game completely from one reliant on explosive pace to just pure intelligent hurling. As Wexford players of the last 30 years go I'd rate him as one of the greats.
Having said that even having him in the dressing room for another season would be great.
A couple of the lads I know say he's a brilliant example in training and always going 100%" It would be great to have his leadership having lost Dee and Matt from the squad. Im hoping the fact that he hasnt announced he is retiring yet it is a good sign. Id let him come back into the squad fit for the end of the league similar to last year
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The problem is that lads want to go off and see the world for a few years and see what else there is in life.
I have the world of admiration for the ones who give their entire 20's to GAA and Wexford but the fact is that there is more to life these days than hurling. The likes of Liam Og, Matthew, Dee O, Paul Morris, etc will be legendary because they are the last batch of players who will do it I believe.
We all want Wexford to be successful but no lad should look back at 30+ years of age and think what I missed in terms of travelling, life, career and so on for playing hurling. If they look back with no regrets and think it was all worth it, good on them.
I gave club GAA the best I could for 6-7 years and then wanted to see what else there was out there. Others gave the club nothing despite being talented. It was always that way.
Inter county GAA is not a hobby any more and therein lies the problem. You need to be prepared to not have a drink or some clown will say "sure he was drunk in the pub last weekend, how could he hurl well" even if you had a bottle of beer with food. You've got constant criticism over a poor performance, you've basically to give up your life for this game and the return from it is questionable, especially if you want to go to a music festival or whatever and miss a game.
That commitment is a choice a decreasing number of players are willing to make.
StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1791 - 09/01/2025 13:12:11
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Replying To Doylerwex: "Absolutely, and Mogie owes Wexford nothing. The fact he came back from the two serious injuries early in his career is amazing too. He changed his game completely from one reliant on explosive pace to just pure intelligent hurling. As Wexford players of the last 30 years go I'd rate him as one of the greats.
Having said that even having him in the dressing room for another season would be great.
A couple of the lads I know say he's a brilliant example in training and always going 100%" That's been said to me by a few players about Kevin Foley also. Leadership and good examples are very important.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 09/01/2025 14:25:18
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Replying To Afinestick96: "It would be great to have his leadership having lost Dee and Matt from the squad. Im hoping the fact that he hasnt announced he is retiring yet it is a good sign. Id let him come back into the squad fit for the end of the league similar to last year" I'd have him playing in one of the 2 inside forward positions if it was up to me. Him and Cian Byrne of the current panel. He has the fitness and workrate, and is a lethal finisher. Mac waiting in the wings if we want to go more direct or when Mogie tires and starts losing his temper!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 09/01/2025 14:27:43
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Replying To StoreysTash: "The problem is that lads want to go off and see the world for a few years and see what else there is in life.
I have the world of admiration for the ones who give their entire 20's to GAA and Wexford but the fact is that there is more to life these days than hurling. The likes of Liam Og, Matthew, Dee O, Paul Morris, etc will be legendary because they are the last batch of players who will do it I believe.
We all want Wexford to be successful but no lad should look back at 30+ years of age and think what I missed in terms of travelling, life, career and so on for playing hurling. If they look back with no regrets and think it was all worth it, good on them.
I gave club GAA the best I could for 6-7 years and then wanted to see what else there was out there. Others gave the club nothing despite being talented. It was always that way.
Inter county GAA is not a hobby any more and therein lies the problem. You need to be prepared to not have a drink or some clown will say "sure he was drunk in the pub last weekend, how could he hurl well" even if you had a bottle of beer with food. You've got constant criticism over a poor performance, you've basically to give up your life for this game and the return from it is questionable, especially if you want to go to a music festival or whatever and miss a game.
That commitment is a choice a decreasing number of players are willing to make." That's where good man management comes in. There has to be a balance.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 09/01/2025 14:29:24
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Well lads missing the Walsh cup should be at least into a 2nd game this weekend.. another stuipid decision by the gaa.. really looking forward to out league opener against cork in the park in a couple of weeks.. obviously we wil be without the senior lads chin Mac Jack o and long term injury Liam Ryan.. also with the fitzgibbon cup on don't think we wil see most of the college lads which is a shame as… would liked to see darragh carley Get a run of games think he could have a big future in the wexford jersey.. we wil probably see a mixture of old and new for cork game also would like to see cian Molloy get a good few games under his belt to see if the hype from gorey people about him is justified.. my team for the league fanning… s Reck foley Eoin whelan… patsy Molloy Damien Reck Charlie mcguckian… Richie Lawlor Conor hearne… James Bryne Justin Moran Tomas Kinsella… Corey Bryne Dunbar Jack Redmond and Rory o Connor
gannett83 (Wexford) - Posts: 298 - 09/01/2025 19:25:27
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Replying To Viking66: "That's where good man management comes in. There has to be a balance." Ask yourself if you were young enough again and played to a certain level be it inter County or senior club level would u do it all again at today's ckmmitment level which is required .
Or if the opportunity arose which was nt as easy when I grew up to go travelling . Would you travel or stay and play .
In Hindsight I think I d travel for a certain time at least .
Think the lockdowns and restrictions of covid has certainly changed people's perspective and attitudes and altered their life choices .
I fear the rewards for playing don't match the commitment
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Replying To Doylerwex: "We don't have the luxury of excluding somebody like Jack. He may be inconsistent but he's an excellent hurler and a physical presence we really need." Jacks a very good hurler but he doesn't have the same ferocious drive as Rory. Jack can go missing for 15 minutes in a match, you'd forget he was even playing.
But he's well able to score when he's on form.
Past hurler (None) - Posts: 849 - 09/01/2025 19:31:49
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Replying To Formertownie: "Ask yourself if you were young enough again and played to a certain level be it inter County or senior club level would u do it all again at today's ckmmitment level which is required .
Or if the opportunity arose which was nt as easy when I grew up to go travelling . Would you travel or stay and play .
In Hindsight I think I d travel for a certain time at least .
Think the lockdowns and restrictions of covid has certainly changed people's perspective and attitudes and altered their life choices .
I fear the rewards for playing don't match the commitment" Perhaps it's just me, but nothing is more important than hurling. You can travel when you're too old to hurl.
I did America when I was younger and did well financially there. some of my mates stayed there, New Zealand, UK, Australia, Canada etc. But It didn't do anything for me.
I'm lucky to be Irish, even more lucky to be from Wexford. I personally wouldn't trade it.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 09/01/2025 20:35:29
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Replying To gannett83: "Well lads missing the Walsh cup should be at least into a 2nd game this weekend.. another stuipid decision by the gaa.. really looking forward to out league opener against cork in the park in a couple of weeks.. obviously we wil be without the senior lads chin Mac Jack o and long term injury Liam Ryan.. also with the fitzgibbon cup on don't think we wil see most of the college lads which is a shame as… would liked to see darragh carley Get a run of games think he could have a big future in the wexford jersey.. we wil probably see a mixture of old and new for cork game also would like to see cian Molloy get a good few games under his belt to see if the hype from gorey people about him is justified.. my team for the league fanning… s Reck foley Eoin whelan… patsy Molloy Damien Reck Charlie mcguckian… Richie Lawlor Conor hearne… James Bryne Justin Moran Tomas Kinsella… Corey Bryne Dunbar Jack Redmond and Rory o Connor" It's quite strong from 2-9 but feels light on fire power. Then again we have to try these lads and give them a chance.
Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3282 - 09/01/2025 20:37:19
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Replying To Viking66: "That was the only time though until this year, although they've only played eachother 9 times in championship.
I was at the Dublin Cork game and I agree, if Dublin had of been braver earlier in the game they could have won that game.
Everyone seems to be writing Galway off also, which is bizarre to say the least. They were absolutely terrible in 2021, worse than last year, and came back to run Limerick very close in the AISF in 2022 after beating Cork in the AIQF. In 2019 they failed to get out of the Round Robin also, yet the following year they beat the defending AI champions in the AIQF before losing to the eventual all ireland champions in the AISF by only the puck of a ball. In recent history theyve followed a bad year with a good one. And O'Donoghue is a top manager who has won it before with them. Nearly all their panel have underage AI winners medals also. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them go well tbh." That was a great galway team though that had them good years, canning, davy burke and the likes were going well, we have completely disregarded bringing through players while having success, if you look at the current squad we have no real quality players from 24-30 apart from conor whelan and Cathan Mannion. We are in total rebuild and the players coming through will take 2-3 years to get up to speed as to where the level of the game is. I think we will get out of leinster but havent a clue how we will fare after that, i think the usual 3 will get out of leinster, ourselves kk and Wexford, o donnell loss is too big to the dubs, theres a leinster for the taking if wexford want it, i have a feeling kilkenny wont be strong this year, i thought their club championship wasnt as strong this year and the only have the leverage of bringing on walter and buckley this year the young lads will have to step up.
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Replying To gannett83: "Well lads missing the Walsh cup should be at least into a 2nd game this weekend.. another stuipid decision by the gaa.. really looking forward to out league opener against cork in the park in a couple of weeks.. obviously we wil be without the senior lads chin Mac Jack o and long term injury Liam Ryan.. also with the fitzgibbon cup on don't think we wil see most of the college lads which is a shame as… would liked to see darragh carley Get a run of games think he could have a big future in the wexford jersey.. we wil probably see a mixture of old and new for cork game also would like to see cian Molloy get a good few games under his belt to see if the hype from gorey people about him is justified.. my team for the league fanning… s Reck foley Eoin whelan… patsy Molloy Damien Reck Charlie mcguckian… Richie Lawlor Conor hearne… James Bryne Justin Moran Tomas Kinsella… Corey Bryne Dunbar Jack Redmond and Rory o Connor" With no Walsh Cup, and not knowing how lads are getting on in training, I couldn't name a definite League team. But if they are all going well and based on what little Ive seen this year at intercounty and college level, and ladt year club and county, then something like this-
Kennedy
Reck, Kehoe, Dundon
Whelan, Reck, Molloy
K Foley (deep midfielder)
C Foley, C Hearne
CBD, Rory, Rowley
Cian Byrne (on frees), Cillian Byrne
Subs definitely to come on, 1 for each line-
E Ryan, Lawlor, James Byrne, Tucker, Flood.
Other subs to look at depending on injuries-
Cian Byrne, Redmond, P Casey, Carley, Pepper, 2 Morans, 2 Codds, Mcguckin.
Hard job, don't envy Keith Rossiter.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14295 - 09/01/2025 22:00:34
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