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Replying To Spidey1: "What a load of absolute rubbish Young lads playing hurling today wouldn't buy into all that historic nonsense There's a big difference between lads hurling now with their heads stuck in social media and lads in the 90s who bought into griffins mindset We are simply not good enough at hurling full stop The co board are acting the maggot with the club championship taking the cut out of it and turning it into go games I attended hurling championship games at different levels last year and it was mostly pathetic stuff The argument that clubs done better in Leinster championship is weak Martins only barely got over nass Rathnure would have went well regardless of type of club championship as they hurling club only and would have got plenty of good challenge games outside county Liam mellows beat nobodies on way to Leinster final" Yes there is a difference. I'm telling you that's part of the problem. They've lost touch with who they are. I'm not really talking about young lads either. It's 20 and up that it becomes important. If you're going to go as far as actually running down good achievements there's no point engaging. The Martin's we're close and naas play club league in Kilkenny. Martin's lost a very close game to eventual winners. The two other clubs won Leinster and rathnure were shafted. How is that not good enough? Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 19/02/2025 12:58:03 2591914 Link
Replying To Spidey1: "What a load of absolute rubbish Young lads playing hurling today wouldn't buy into all that historic nonsense There's a big difference between lads hurling now with their heads stuck in social media and lads in the 90s who bought into griffins mindset We are simply not good enough at hurling full stop The co board are acting the maggot with the club championship taking the cut out of it and turning it into go games I attended hurling championship games at different levels last year and it was mostly pathetic stuff The argument that clubs done better in Leinster championship is weak Martins only barely got over nass Rathnure would have went well regardless of type of club championship as they hurling club only and would have got plenty of good challenge games outside county Liam mellows beat nobodies on way to Leinster final" As an outsider in Wexford, some of this is right. Set any Wexford person over the age of 45-50 off about 96 and you get 2 hours where you do not need to speak, only nod. Its 30 years ago and in the meantime? Nothing. I think the era of fire and brimstone and war cries and go out and break hurleys is over. Limerick played on passion and emotion for 50 years and it got them to finals only to bottle them, be not able to beat 14 men with a match there for the taking and generally just flop on the big occasion. They recognised the need for their team to become cold blooded killers and to HAMMER teams when they get half a sniff. They developed better hurlers through their squads who knew they were better hurlers and they had a game-based mentality to win. Kilkenny have this 1000% baked in to their DNA. There is no point in talking about Fr. Murphy or having Liam Griffin in talking emotion and other guff to a team not even born when he was a manager. That day is long gone. The modern game is about being a better hurler, better conditioned, having more dog in you, with a better first touch and ability to win your own ball, and a team having a game plan and executing it in a calculated way. Everything else is what I call "The GAA money game". If you are a better hurler than the opposition, you will win 95%+ of games. There is a role for psychology, stats, S&C, etc but get the basics right first before spending a load on a psychologist, if you have a senior hurler who can't pick the ball up first time no psychologist is going to help him pick it up. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1274 - 19/02/2025 13:15:02 2591917 Link
Replying To Spidey1: "What a load of absolute rubbish Young lads playing hurling today wouldn't buy into all that historic nonsense There's a big difference between lads hurling now with their heads stuck in social media and lads in the 90s who bought into griffins mindset We are simply not good enough at hurling full stop The co board are acting the maggot with the club championship taking the cut out of it and turning it into go games I attended hurling championship games at different levels last year and it was mostly pathetic stuff The argument that clubs done better in Leinster championship is weak Martins only barely got over nass Rathnure would have went well regardless of type of club championship as they hurling club only and would have got plenty of good challenge games outside county Liam mellows beat nobodies on way to Leinster final" Our club argued most of those points at the Board meeting last month. We got heavily outvoted. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 19/02/2025 13:47:58 2591930 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Yes there is a difference. I'm telling you that's part of the problem. They've lost touch with who they are. I'm not really talking about young lads either. It's 20 and up that it becomes important. If you're going to go as far as actually running down good achievements there's no point engaging. The Martin's we're close and naas play club league in Kilkenny. Martin's lost a very close game to eventual winners. The two other clubs won Leinster and rathnure were shafted. How is that not good enough?" Castletown didn't win Leinster. Last Wexford club to win a Leinster Junior was Horeswood, and they did that in 2022 with the split season still in. Martins were probably our best county champions in a number of years overall, fitness and hurling, that's a good reason why they did ok. And Rathnure were a SenIor standard team playing Intermediate. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 19/02/2025 13:56:15 2591932 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "As an outsider in Wexford, some of this is right. Set any Wexford person over the age of 45-50 off about 96 and you get 2 hours where you do not need to speak, only nod. Its 30 years ago and in the meantime? Nothing. I think the era of fire and brimstone and war cries and go out and break hurleys is over. Limerick played on passion and emotion for 50 years and it got them to finals only to bottle them, be not able to beat 14 men with a match there for the taking and generally just flop on the big occasion. They recognised the need for their team to become cold blooded killers and to HAMMER teams when they get half a sniff. They developed better hurlers through their squads who knew they were better hurlers and they had a game-based mentality to win. Kilkenny have this 1000% baked in to their DNA. There is no point in talking about Fr. Murphy or having Liam Griffin in talking emotion and other guff to a team not even born when he was a manager. That day is long gone. The modern game is about being a better hurler, better conditioned, having more dog in you, with a better first touch and ability to win your own ball, and a team having a game plan and executing it in a calculated way. Everything else is what I call "The GAA money game". If you are a better hurler than the opposition, you will win 95%+ of games. There is a role for psychology, stats, S&C, etc but get the basics right first before spending a load on a psychologist, if you have a senior hurler who can't pick the ball up first time no psychologist is going to help him pick it up." Alot of it comes down to training also. And the intensity of it from u12 upwards. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 19/02/2025 13:59:56 2591935 Link
I think people are losing the run of themselves over mentions of 1798 and 1996 and what it means for style of play I am not advocating any specific style of play, I would rather that we actually show some dog irrespective of style of play I made a point a few weeks ago about how given our culture and history, the lifelessness of our performances was embarrassing; this is not reminiscing about our past or suggesting we should revert to 90s tactics, this is just highlighting how dead our performances have been FWIW, I don't think being stuck in the past is what's holding us back, I think it's a bit of a lazy point that has been thrown around both inside and outside of the county. It's not as if we've ever been that successful outside of the 1950s and 1960s so for as much as people may claim 1996 is holding us back right now, you could have said 1968 was holding us back up until 1996 ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 395 - 19/02/2025 15:23:12 2591950 Link
Replying To Spidey1: "One thing the hurling committee could have done to increase interest and intensity was to bring in double relegation and double promotion Top 4 in group play q finals 5 v 6 in opposing group relegation finals I know clubs wouldn't vote for it but it would make some difference And return to hurling first football 2nd Could possibly alternate following year to be fair Every club guaranteed 6 tough games At underage get rid of shield competition after u16 It's embarrassing for a club to win a shield at u21 and not much to celebrate at minor" Fortunately/unfortunately clubs only vote for what's in their interest. They see double relegation and it's an increased risk to their senior "status" so no chance it gets voted in. Relegation probably did Rathnure a power of good and they will be better this year for it. Getting rid of the split season format is just a symptom of what's wrong. One of the main concerns being voiced was that it gave our hurling clubs little chance in Leinster club championships, a bogus argument for me anyway, but even if that were true we should have said fine, we won't compete then. We will focus on having the best possible club championships in both codes as that will benefit far more players and clubs, where pretty much every game matters so intensity is guaranteed. Any discussion on that wouldn't have got a single vote. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 367 - 19/02/2025 16:36:12 2591967 Link
Replying To Timbertony: "Fortunately/unfortunately clubs only vote for what's in their interest. They see double relegation and it's an increased risk to their senior "status" so no chance it gets voted in. Relegation probably did Rathnure a power of good and they will be better this year for it. Getting rid of the split season format is just a symptom of what's wrong. One of the main concerns being voiced was that it gave our hurling clubs little chance in Leinster club championships, a bogus argument for me anyway, but even if that were true we should have said fine, we won't compete then. We will focus on having the best possible club championships in both codes as that will benefit far more players and clubs, where pretty much every game matters so intensity is guaranteed. Any discussion on that wouldn't have got a single vote." Think our motion for the split season coming back got around 10 votes. That was all. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 19/02/2025 17:40:25 2591973 Link
Whelan, kehoe have been injured that why they have not been selected for the last while. Ryan and mac still no word on yet but most other injuries should be close to back playing around the Galway game hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1068 - 19/02/2025 19:03:42 2591984 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Think our motion for the split season coming back got around 10 votes. That was all." What was the reasons put forward by those opposing it? zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1924 - 20/02/2025 03:32:48 2592008 Link
Replying To zinny: "What was the reasons put forward by those opposing it?" The main feeling in the room was giving the HAC set up a chance for more than one year. There were other clubs , especially 1 code clubs, that prefer the games to be more spread out, alternate blocks suits them. Though most of them voted against the HACs proposal also as they didn't like the lack of jeopardy, or 5th being in danger of going down. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 20/02/2025 07:36:09 2592010 Link
Replying To hunting: "Whelan, kehoe have been injured that why they have not been selected for the last while. Ryan and mac still no word on yet but most other injuries should be close to back playing around the Galway game" Well Mac had surgery this week and Rowley gone too. countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 779 - 20/02/2025 08:57:01 2592016 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Well Mac had surgery this week and Rowley gone too." Knew about Mac but that's really disappointing about Rowley. A good lad to fill some of our gaps given a bit of time Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 20/02/2025 09:50:07 2592023 Link
How long is mac out after surgery and what u mean Rowley gone, for year or how long hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1068 - 20/02/2025 10:40:09 2592034 Link
Replying To countyman2022: "Well Mac had surgery this week and Rowley gone too." What happened to Rowley? He was due back in the next couple weeks. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 20/02/2025 10:46:32 2592039 Link
Replying To Doylerwex: "Knew about Mac but that's really disappointing about Rowley. A good lad to fill some of our gaps given a bit of time" If it's true he will be a big loss for the u20s. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 20/02/2025 10:47:17 2592040 Link
Jippo is back training won't be risked for the league but should be back for Antrim Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 346 - 20/02/2025 12:32:58 2592069 Link
Anyone planning on going Sunday? OpenStandWall (Wexford) - Posts: 203 - 20/02/2025 12:45:10 2592070 Link
Replying To Wexfordgaa: "Jippo is back training won't be risked for the league but should be back for Antrim" That's extremely impressive considering what he's been through. Seems a lovely fella too. I met him at the fleadh with my 8 year old nephew and he was brilliant with him and very generous with his time. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3412 - 20/02/2025 13:26:01 2592086 Link
Replying To OpenStandWall: "Anyone planning on going Sunday?" Yes. Tickets bought route planned can't wait Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14978 - 20/02/2025 17:16:25 2592138 Link