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Replying To Viking66:  "I know you are mistaken about Wexford FC underage contracts forbidding GAA being played."
Under 18s and up no?

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3900 - 22/08/2025 20:57:32    2633162

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Replying To Viking66:  "I know you are mistaken about Wexford FC underage contracts forbidding GAA being played."
If I m wrong I m sorry but that is what I believe to be the case . Voukd br that they just train sane days as championship snd discourage yiu from playing . But thsts what I was told you are not allowed play maybe someone could clarify if the know definitively .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 22/08/2025 23:16:21    2633170

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https://youtu.be/kiSVrxBqwfw?si=QwrcfYkg9sBVrRlL

Interesting video from Director of Rugby in Terenure. Lot of things applicable for underage Gaa coaches

camánouttathat (Wexford) - Posts: 79 - 23/08/2025 09:19:25    2633184

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Under 18s and up no?"
Not sure about u18s and up, but definitely in lower age groups lads have contracts with Wexford FC and still play GAA.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16958 - 23/08/2025 09:53:07    2633187

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I'd argue it's as much to do with culture as genetics.

Your growth plates are open while reaching maturity, for men usually between 14-18 you'll produce the most growth hormone. This can be optimised through diet and stretching. Look at what basketball players do as teens.

Strength training, calories and protein build muscle. This isn't complicated at all. Are we doing enough? The schools nutrition program is a good start.

Look back to our teams of 50s-80s. We've produced some very physical teams.

We can do that again if we plan it properly.

Then on the genetics side I do wonder whether we should focus our attention on bigger lads and improve their hurling or try and build the better hurlers physically? I don't know, but these are questions we should be asking."
Look I can remember growing up and the the bigger lads at underage were ignored because it took them longer to learn the game. That has a knock on effect as they leave the game with bad memories and pass that onto their kids. I say the same now about Ladies Football, unless we get more girls playing we will loose their kids to the game as well. There is still despite all the work done coaches and lets be straight about it its parents of the kids, who will only focus on winning today and not when these kids are playing adult. However the problem perhaps is now that they are not even playing the game so its back to the underage again and getting them involved.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2056 - 23/08/2025 10:44:56    2633192

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not sure about u18s and up, but definitely in lower age groups lads have contracts with Wexford FC and still play GAA."
I don't know about Wexford FC and their underage teams, but a separate thing altogether is the Wexford & District Schoolboys League and their development squads, which start as young as Under-12.

I know at least some of them generally train on Sunday mornings and boys on those squads are told that if they miss training for anything other than injury/illness/bereavement, then they face being booted off the squad.

Fair enough until you consider how at this time of year, our own U16, U14 and U12 hurling & football squads often look to train on Sunday mornings too, as they head into the knock-out stages of their championships. But have to train without two or three lads who are part of the county soccer squad - i.e. having to train without probably your best players, because lads of that age who are best in sport tend to be among the best in others too.

Basically - "you can't train for a hurling or footbll county quarter-final or semi-final in a few days' time, because we want you training for some inter-county soccer tournament that doesn't start until October or November".

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3049 - 23/08/2025 19:14:55    2633242

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I don't know about Wexford FC and their underage teams, but a separate thing altogether is the Wexford & District Schoolboys League and their development squads, which start as young as Under-12.

I know at least some of them generally train on Sunday mornings and boys on those squads are told that if they miss training for anything other than injury/illness/bereavement, then they face being booted off the squad.

Fair enough until you consider how at this time of year, our own U16, U14 and U12 hurling & football squads often look to train on Sunday mornings too, as they head into the knock-out stages of their championships. But have to train without two or three lads who are part of the county soccer squad - i.e. having to train without probably your best players, because lads of that age who are best in sport tend to be among the best in others too.

Basically - "you can't train for a hurling or footbll county quarter-final or semi-final in a few days' time, because we want you training for some inter-county soccer tournament that doesn't start until October or November"."
You also consider with soccer on Saturdays and even more are unavailable . Saturday training is out .
One thing I would say is its lads on extended squad would get dropped but like most other teams no one drops their most influential players . They might mildly discipline them but won't put them out of squad unless it is higher end of disciplinary infraction.
Selling an impossible dream , everyone loves to dream.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 24/08/2025 13:22:13    2633329

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Replying To Formertownie:  "You also consider with soccer on Saturdays and even more are unavailable . Saturday training is out .
One thing I would say is its lads on extended squad would get dropped but like most other teams no one drops their most influential players . They might mildly discipline them but won't put them out of squad unless it is higher end of disciplinary infraction.
Selling an impossible dream , everyone loves to dream."
Yeah, but I presume those soccer development squads typically have around 20 or 22 players. Probably only four or five of the very best would consider themselves "indispensable" and unlikely to be dropped if they went to train or play hurling or football on one or two Sunday mornings instead. The rest won't take the chance.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3049 - 24/08/2025 20:12:46    2633381

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "Yeah, but I presume those soccer development squads typically have around 20 or 22 players. Probably only four or five of the very best would consider themselves "indispensable" and unlikely to be dropped if they went to train or play hurling or football on one or two Sunday mornings instead. The rest won't take the chance."
Yes that's the point i was trying to make.
Unfortunately the best at one are the best at others too becoming more of a problem nowadays as coaches of these squads demand more or total commitment which is taking away from them playing other sports i d include our own dev squads in this scenario too . . Fear is if they don't make the one the have dived head first into they get disillusioned zbd pack all sport in .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 24/08/2025 21:51:41    2633415

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Yes that's the point i was trying to make.
Unfortunately the best at one are the best at others too becoming more of a problem nowadays as coaches of these squads demand more or total commitment which is taking away from them playing other sports i d include our own dev squads in this scenario too . . Fear is if they don't make the one the have dived head first into they get disillusioned zbd pack all sport in ."
Ah that's unlikely. The best lads are the best because they enjoy sport and put more into it usually. If they don't make it to the top in a sport and don't want to play that sport at a lower level they nearly always take up something else.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16958 - 24/08/2025 22:32:25    2633427

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Replying To Formertownie:  "Just on the chin thing he kicked for wexford first.
And yet he is our most influential hurler at present how can that be if he did nt commit 100% to hurling from day one.
Played soccer for wex fc too i think . If he had been discarded for these issues where would he be now .

Football orientated clubs have made more progress in hurling than hurling orientated clubs on the whole of late .
I just don't understand that or why.
can someone tell me .
Are the football clubs more professional in their approach rather than old school hurling ones still doing same old same old approach .
3 hurlng strongholds relegated 2 regrouped 1 in contention .at senior 1 in relegation battle 1 languishing in intermediate .
Focusing on one has nt exactly worked for them .
Loughmore/castleinney buck the trend .
Maybe your right but I can't but admire and be in awe of Loughmore coupe all ireland hurling medals too this year .
If and big if . If young kads were starting to lean towards footbal dev squads first ie some of best hurlers underage would the . One code only be revisited .
U can pick one only as long as its hurling first and then we decide if u are good enough ."
"3 hurlng strongholds relegated 2 regrouped 1 in contention .at senior 1 in relegation battle 1 languishing in intermediate. Focusing on one has nt exactly worked for them ."

Think that is a very lazy and poor comparison - All 3 of these Clubs are under pressure due to their falling numbers over the last number of years. I've said it numerous times that the tide is turning and all 3 will be back competing strongly in the next 5 years.

The big problem with the underage clubs mentioned (Ballyhogue, Blackwater etc) is that they now don't know if they are a hurling club or a football club. This is grand now at U12 / U14 levels but when they start to get to Minor you haven't the numbers to be good at both.

Loughmore/Castleinney are an exception.

MyOhMi (Wexford) - Posts: 217 - 25/08/2025 09:02:57    2633462

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Replying To MyOhMi:  ""3 hurlng strongholds relegated 2 regrouped 1 in contention .at senior 1 in relegation battle 1 languishing in intermediate. Focusing on one has nt exactly worked for them ."

Think that is a very lazy and poor comparison - All 3 of these Clubs are under pressure due to their falling numbers over the last number of years. I've said it numerous times that the tide is turning and all 3 will be back competing strongly in the next 5 years.

The big problem with the underage clubs mentioned (Ballyhogue, Blackwater etc) is that they now don't know if they are a hurling club or a football club. This is grand now at U12 / U14 levels but when they start to get to Minor you haven't the numbers to be good at both.

Loughmore/Castleinney are an exception."
They might be the exception but if there is a will there is a way and you can't but admire them for it .
Same as you can't say above named teams won't be dual contenders in the future .
I agree one of the teams will bounce back the other does nt seem to be making progress as such of course I hope they do for the sake of hurling but can't see the evidence at present I doubt its from lack of trying /effort either .
I do feel that part of our problem is the hurling only brigade are doing as much if not more damage than anything else with the inability to adapt to the new situation . Lads will make their own decision you can't force it .
Funny any mention of a hurlng first club reality check is defended instead of praising the horeswoods gissaranes and Castletowns ballyhogues who are making great strides in hurling let them find their feet first and give them any supports that are needed
All clubs have dwindling numbers bar ones near large urban areas not inc towns bar gorey .
Yes there is a changing of the guard at hurling . But be careful not to push football strongholds to hard and we lose the hurlers from thes new found hotshots

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 25/08/2025 13:40:21    2633516

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah that's unlikely. The best lads are the best because they enjoy sport and put more into it usually. If they don't make it to the top in a sport and don't want to play that sport at a lower level they nearly always take up something else."
Remains to be seen as its fairly new this demand of total commitment . . I just hate to see young lads put under pressure to pick until they have no other choice if they ever get to the level needed/required .

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 429 - 25/08/2025 13:44:16    2633519

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Replying To Viking66:  "Ah that's unlikely. The best lads are the best because they enjoy sport and put more into it usually. If they don't make it to the top in a sport and don't want to play that sport at a lower level they nearly always take up something else."
It does happen. As a non professional sport what is the value of underage inter county games. If the only underage group was U21 and all development squads were banned except for U21. Is the idea of playing intercounty underage saving any kids from going to think that they can play professional game - soccer or rugby(always a tiny % of kids), is the concept now doing more harm that good as we are applying criteria suitable for adults to underage. A lot of money is spent of underage county teams and would that not be better spent in the Schools and Clubs. If a young lad has dreams of playing Senior for the county, one years performance does not define that for him and nobody will stop looking at him until he is more physically and mentally prepared. Would be interesting to hear what people think. What are the arguments in favor of Underage Inter County? and lets assume this is GAA wide not just Wexford.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2056 - 25/08/2025 13:52:45    2633521

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