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Replying To the_post:  "What players should we expect to see more of next year?
I think the big thing I noticed this year is that we lacked size and physicality everywhere. This was really noticeable when jippo was missing. Our forwards are on the smaller side of things too (Byrne, Casey, Dunbar, Foley). I really think we need to change it up. Reck at 6 hasn't worked. It feels like we haven't had a proper game strategy or plan to play to our strengths since Davy. I wouldn't be very optimistic we will see much change next year either, we seem to just resign ourselves to the same mediocre displays every year with the same fringe players who have repeatedly failed. In saying that there are a core of very good players in Chin, jippo, the Recks, Hearne, ROC and Conor mac."
You'd imagine we'll see some of the following (Didn't start in this year's Championship) in the league:

Simon Roche
Cillian Byrne
Seán Rowley
Eoin Whelan
Darragh Kehoe
Michael Dundon
Tucker Kinsella
Jack Redmond
David Codd

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 681 - 29/07/2025 16:04:29    2629054

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Didnt hear anything . Did anything come from these meetings? Would like to see a few new faces in the management team. Also I think Des Mythens comments about some players just happy to be in the panel were very controversial if he is going to be involved next year"
I agree he shouldn't have made those comments in public although I do think he was fairly accurate with his comments all the same

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 681 - 29/07/2025 16:06:25    2629055

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I didn't hear anything from such meetings either, but I wouldn't expect to, and wouldn't ask either, as I don't think anything should come out of such meetings to anyone other than people like the County Chairman and maybe a couple of others in positions where they'd need to know. Certainly don't think it should be for the general public.

I'd agree strongly re. what you say about Mythen's comments. I thought they were very ill-judged."
The fact people on this forum know about the meetings is an issue within itself.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 915 - 29/07/2025 16:30:52    2629065

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I agree he shouldn't have made those comments in public although I do think he was fairly accurate with his comments all the same"
I wouldn't deny there may well have been some hard-hitting truth involved. But I still believe it's the kind of thing that should be kept behind closed doors.

Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 3178 - 29/07/2025 17:43:41    2629082

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I agree he shouldn't have made those comments in public although I do think he was fairly accurate with his comments all the same"
Totally agree with you on this re the comments he made in public and he shouldn't be involved next year, but I don't think he was far off the mark. I think a lot of people have a very obscured view of the level of commitment of some of our players, I'm not suggesting all of them, but some. If current management had any sense, they'd be out the door and let someone else give it a shot, it surely can't all be managements fault for the past 4-5 years.

wexfan09 (Wexford) - Posts: 36 - 29/07/2025 18:19:47    2629088

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Replying To countyman2022:  "The fact people on this forum know about the meetings is an issue within itself."
100% agree

wexfan09 (Wexford) - Posts: 36 - 29/07/2025 19:21:47    2629100

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Replying To wexfan09:  "Totally agree with you on this re the comments he made in public and he shouldn't be involved next year, but I don't think he was far off the mark. I think a lot of people have a very obscured view of the level of commitment of some of our players, I'm not suggesting all of them, but some. If current management had any sense, they'd be out the door and let someone else give it a shot, it surely can't all be managements fault for the past 4-5 years."
I wouldn't say it's a question of commitment, would say it's a question of belief instead

The goal for every good young player should be to win All-Irelands with Wexford, not "merely" to hurl for Wexford

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 681 - 29/07/2025 20:51:12    2629125

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Replying To wexfan09:  "Has anyone heard about meetings the players have had with management? Any feedback from it. We are in a serious phase of transition, there are 18 players involved from the '22 & '23 U20 setups, it's going to take another year or two for this to show.
After the All Ireland, one of the Tipp players had said about how Darragh McCarthy is in the pitch EVERY DAY hitting frees and hurling, can that be said about any of our current crop of players? Let's call a spade a spade, outside of formal training sessions, lads should be doing stuff themselves every other day be it hurling or recovery or whatever, does anyone believe Wexford lads are doing this? I for one don't. We can talk about tactics and poor decisions on the sideline etc, is there ever an element where players need to take responsibility as well for what they actually put into it?
We may stop talking about the Foleys too, they don't want to hurl for Wexford and that's their choices. And there can be guaranteed to be a few retirements this year again."
The two from my club are out every single day

Who do you think will retire? The age profile is pretty good now. We know Chin is staying.

There's one I wish would retire.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4002 - 29/07/2025 21:02:04    2629128

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I wouldn't say it's a question of commitment, would say it's a question of belief instead

The goal for every good young player should be to win All-Irelands with Wexford, not "merely" to hurl for Wexford"
Agree 100%

Steps of the Hogan should be the ambition for every single young player and their mentors should be telling them that.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4002 - 29/07/2025 21:58:14    2629143

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I wouldn't deny there may well have been some hard-hitting truth involved. But I still believe it's the kind of thing that should be kept behind closed doors."
Element of truth or not that's no reason to throw the players under a bus. If management were collectively unhappy they always have the option of dropping lads. At the end of the day it's up to management to get the most out of the team.
My main criticism of the management collectively is they are still too slow to react to what's unfolding in front of them.
It's an inexperienced by intercounty standards management team managing a pretty inexperienced bunch of players, hopefully they will all learn from this years Dublin and Galway games and not make the same mistakes next year.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17344 - 29/07/2025 22:08:45    2629148

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I agree he shouldn't have made those comments in public although I do think he was fairly accurate with his comments all the same"
Id be sure Des Mythen wants the best for the players and county, Id say those comments were borne out of frustration more than anything. So I wouldn't say he is wrong. However if players are being asked to look in the mirror first, that also applies to the management team he was a part of. Coaching, we look frankly clueless at times in and out of possession and have since Rossi's first league campaign. Selections, dropping the two Cians in Salthill was crazy. Changes during games, biggest failure for me, failing to deal with Hetherton and Mannion in our two biggest games. So it's that old saying about if your pointing the finger at someone there's three pointing back at you. Des was a fine underage player himself and club player too that maybe never achieved his true potential either.

What the management team aren't to answer for is there enough players of sufficient quality available to compete at the highest level. The answer to that for me right now is no and that pool of quality players is shrinking. That's the biggest issue to be addressed and there's no quick fix. The go games club structure definitely doesn't help.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 465 - 29/07/2025 23:08:35    2629160

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Id be sure Des Mythen wants the best for the players and county, Id say those comments were borne out of frustration more than anything. So I wouldn't say he is wrong. However if players are being asked to look in the mirror first, that also applies to the management team he was a part of. Coaching, we look frankly clueless at times in and out of possession and have since Rossi's first league campaign. Selections, dropping the two Cians in Salthill was crazy. Changes during games, biggest failure for me, failing to deal with Hetherton and Mannion in our two biggest games. So it's that old saying about if your pointing the finger at someone there's three pointing back at you. Des was a fine underage player himself and club player too that maybe never achieved his true potential either.

What the management team aren't to answer for is there enough players of sufficient quality available to compete at the highest level. The answer to that for me right now is no and that pool of quality players is shrinking. That's the biggest issue to be addressed and there's no quick fix. The go games club structure definitely doesn't help."
For some reason I don't seem to be allowed to comment on that interview. What I found most disappointing was the lack of responsibility he took. He was forwards coach. His comments made no sense to me.

One thing I'll say for Rossi is he's honest and always takes responsibility.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4002 - 30/07/2025 08:17:12    2629183

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Replying To Viking66:  "Element of truth or not that's no reason to throw the players under a bus. If management were collectively unhappy they always have the option of dropping lads. At the end of the day it's up to management to get the most out of the team.
My main criticism of the management collectively is they are still too slow to react to what's unfolding in front of them.
It's an inexperienced by intercounty standards management team managing a pretty inexperienced bunch of players, hopefully they will all learn from this years Dublin and Galway games and not make the same mistakes next year."
I think that's perfectly reasonable.

Some of the selections were puzzling but that happens and we don't see everything.

The set up in those two important games was tactically naive.

An extra defender might have solved the Dublin problem before it got out of hand.

We needed a man marker to track mannion and if made no sense that we seemed to do nothing about it.

Those two things could have made all the difference.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 4002 - 30/07/2025 08:25:39    2629184

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Details of underage games at the weekend

https://x.com/officialwexgaa/status/1950858989157367810?s=46

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 681 - 31/07/2025 11:02:03    2629426

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My son told me about that Des Mythen interview and how he hung the players out to dry, if I was a player I would be asking him to explain himself and if he's not happy with our effort why isn't he replacing us with one of the hundreds of players lining up to do the hard yards for the jersey.....
Coming from a player who never delivered on his own promise it was very odd to throw players under the bus like he did. If it was Keith Rossiter saying it I would have said well he did all he could for the Wexford jersey.
Wexford's season hung on the matches v Dublin and Galway and in one did Des not see that conceding the puck out was not working and in the other not man-marking Cathal Mannion beat Wexford on his own?
I'm always wary of managers and management teams who don't hold their hand up and say "we had to do better". There is a vibe of Logan Roy's "You are not serious people" if you don't take responsibility for what you did first of all.
On the topic of games promotion, I got an alert on the Lidl shopping app about the All-Ireland ladies final this weekend and "fill every seat" #SeriousSupport.
I understand they are a sponsor but yet again the ladies game show the value and their knowledge of marketing and promoting their games much more than the mens equivalent do.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1507 - 31/07/2025 12:04:12    2629445

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I agree he shouldn't have made those comments in public although I do think he was fairly accurate with his comments all the same"
Unfortunately he is probably right regards that lads just like to have the label(county player) look i m in with the county team . Heads up their ...s looking down on others .
We don't call out players rightly so but they have to be responsible too . They need to do everything they can to improve themselves.
Not just be happy to be in the fold .
Listening to kerry players after all victiry ireland . And how they were vilified for losing to Meath . They used it to to motivate themselves .
It's the standards they set for themselves that.will determine which direction their career path takes if you have the talent use it or at least push urself to the limits with the right attitude.
Don't let ,I m now a county player be your pinnacle ,all ireland or your only ambition . Get out of your comfort zone test yourself.

Formertownie (Wexford) - Posts: 474 - 31/07/2025 12:34:55    2629455

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I see the Tipp supporters club on X posted the order of fixtures for next years Munster championship . Would love a mix up of the fixtures in Leinster next year maybe even Kilkenny game first for us

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 738 - 31/07/2025 20:51:59    2629539

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "I see the Tipp supporters club on X posted the order of fixtures for next years Munster championship . Would love a mix up of the fixtures in Leinster next year maybe even Kilkenny game first for us"
It will be last I'm pretty sure

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17344 - 01/08/2025 07:12:01    2629570

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "I see the Tipp supporters club on X posted the order of fixtures for next years Munster championship . Would love a mix up of the fixtures in Leinster next year maybe even Kilkenny game first for us"
It will be something like the below

Offaly A
Galway H
Dublin H
Kildare A
Kilkenny A

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 320 - 01/08/2025 07:43:11    2629575

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Replying To Pikeman96:  "I wouldn't deny there may well have been some hard-hitting truth involved. But I still believe it's the kind of thing that should be kept behind closed doors."
100%

You can't achieve anything without belief, you can't have belief without trust.

I know if I was a player I'd be thinking to myself how can I be open and honest with this lot and trust them. Bad move, terrible in fact and doesn't bode well in fairness for the group imho.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1583 - 01/08/2025 09:57:33    2629592

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