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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well on that point I was thinking who off the Wexford team I would want in the Dublin starting team ahead of who we have. I decided only Chin, Rory O'Connor, and (if fit) Liam Ryan and (if fit) Shane Reck. Maybe Conor Hearne for his work rate.
But after that, no offence lads but Wexford are a team of very average hurlers and far from being unlucky, ifs and buts I think this is where Wexford are at and I'm not sitting here basking in any delight saying that. We need everybody in Leinster to raise the tide to lift all the boats to take on the Munster counties every year."
Think you are being hard on Damien Reck there. Kevin Foley too.
Most of the rest of the Wexford lads are 23 or under and only starting out at Senior intercounty, while most of the Dublin team are in their prime years, so you would obviously expect a combined team to contain more Dubs.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 27/06/2025 12:36:22    2621482

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Replying To wexford2012:  "Agree exile, its playground stuff and frankly embarrassing, results are all that matter at this level."
Some of the things said here from a few posters are almost beyond belief. Lads are on another planet.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 27/06/2025 12:42:41    2621485

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well on that point I was thinking who off the Wexford team I would want in the Dublin starting team ahead of who we have. I decided only Chin, Rory O'Connor, and (if fit) Liam Ryan and (if fit) Shane Reck. Maybe Conor Hearne for his work rate.
But after that, no offence lads but Wexford are a team of very average hurlers and far from being unlucky, ifs and buts I think this is where Wexford are at and I'm not sitting here basking in any delight saying that. We need everybody in Leinster to raise the tide to lift all the boats to take on the Munster counties every year."
Is there no Dublin hurling forum you can comment on?

logger (Wexford) - Posts: 302 - 27/06/2025 14:53:03    2621535

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well on that point I was thinking who off the Wexford team I would want in the Dublin starting team ahead of who we have. I decided only Chin, Rory O'Connor, and (if fit) Liam Ryan and (if fit) Shane Reck. Maybe Conor Hearne for his work rate.
But after that, no offence lads but Wexford are a team of very average hurlers and far from being unlucky, ifs and buts I think this is where Wexford are at and I'm not sitting here basking in any delight saying that. We need everybody in Leinster to raise the tide to lift all the boats to take on the Munster counties every year."
To be honest I think that's accurate enough.

I don't disagree with any of it.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1526 - 27/06/2025 15:17:48    2621549

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Well on that point I was thinking who off the Wexford team I would want in the Dublin starting team ahead of who we have. I decided only Chin, Rory O'Connor, and (if fit) Liam Ryan and (if fit) Shane Reck. Maybe Conor Hearne for his work rate.
But after that, no offence lads but Wexford are a team of very average hurlers and far from being unlucky, ifs and buts I think this is where Wexford are at and I'm not sitting here basking in any delight saying that. We need everybody in Leinster to raise the tide to lift all the boats to take on the Munster counties every year."
Of course you are, I am only suprised you haven't been on here sooner then now.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1150 - 27/06/2025 15:42:10    2621558

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "The change in Limerick is quite interesting to watch.

I called out several times how she was always held in the same esteem as Kiely among the players.

I said two years ago that momentum and muscle memory would get them through another all Ireland because the building blocks were there but there was a risk of them falling back.

Lads laughed at me.

This is an unbelievable case study to argue the importance of a top class psychologist. The value of it is incalculable.

It's more important than any athletic metric because all of our limitations are self imposed in our own minds.

Anyone who is a success at anything understands this and not always consciously."
I totally agree doyler. A good psychologist can be an asset to a team. As you said currid was praised by Kiely in Limerick. Getting players to believe in themselves will help them mentally. If say its only 5% improvement then that's positive and may well be the difference in winning or losing a game.
In Wexford we do have a psychologist. I presume he works between the hurlers and footballers.
Didn't hear anything about him since he came on board. Our results would suggest that he hasn't achieved very much yet. Although maybe he was instrumental in helping the footballers gain promotion. Maybe he needs more time to get the players thinking differently. Anyway it's probably better to have a psychologist than not have one.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 532 - 27/06/2025 16:17:54    2621568

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Think combined teams are a waste of everyone's time, you're only ever going to take players from a hypothetical opposition if they're clearly and obviously better than what you have, you're always going to choose someone from your own side when it's close enough between two players

Form is also fickle and a combined team could change a lot year on year in theory, only have to look at how certain Dublin hurlers are viewed now compared to last year

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 27/06/2025 18:54:27    2621618

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Replying To Viking66:  "Think you are being hard on Damien Reck there. Kevin Foley too.
Most of the rest of the Wexford lads are 23 or under and only starting out at Senior intercounty, while most of the Dublin team are in their prime years, so you would obviously expect a combined team to contain more Dubs."
Fair point viking.it remains to be seen of course if those lads who are now 23 or 24 will become leaders in the next few years. If not I fear for the future of wexford hurling.
Our attitude going forward should be if Dublin can do it, why not us?
It will only happen though if our defence become teak tough. That is where the problem lies.
We are lightweight in our back six. Teams love playing against us because they know we are very vulnerable when run at.
Some on here believe we do have intensity. I disagree. We do at times but it's rarely sustained.
We just seem to drift out of games too easily allowing the opposition to gain the initiative.
It can be very frustrating following our team.
The results over the last few years says it all.

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 532 - 28/06/2025 06:26:58    2621671

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Replying To WEXILE:  "Just reading the latest we have better players than Dublin Post. Lads it's time to stop that it's.not helping anyone.

Dublin a team we can beat only once in the last God knows how long years and we are meant to better than em.

They've just beaten Limerick without Eoin O'Donnell who's not committed this year to hurlers and also Donal Burke.

Not only that they had 14 men for most of it. They also traditionally had some serious hurlers that go with the footballers and that's still the case.

Comparatively I don't see how we are the same. They bring Hetherton out of relative obscurity and he changed a.few of the games including the one v Wexford.

Who could we bring in? Martin Storey maybe. All joking aside we are comparatively not even close"
Completely agree with you we are miles off Dublin and once they crack hurling its the final nail in our coffin. Wexford have a lot of good people involved and yes they are doing their best but we fool ourselves with this false positive crap thats being spoken we are miles off the top counties and until people at the top admit that and sort it out we will only get worse. We basicially just ahead of Offaly and now Kildare we have avoided relegation a few times now but our luck will end soon and we will be Joe Mc and maybe then action will be taken.

Bryson (Wexford) - Posts: 16 - 29/06/2025 00:55:30    2621945

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Replying To Bryson:  "Completely agree with you we are miles off Dublin and once they crack hurling its the final nail in our coffin. Wexford have a lot of good people involved and yes they are doing their best but we fool ourselves with this false positive crap thats being spoken we are miles off the top counties and until people at the top admit that and sort it out we will only get worse. We basicially just ahead of Offaly and now Kildare we have avoided relegation a few times now but our luck will end soon and we will be Joe Mc and maybe then action will be taken."
What action have you in mind that might help?

Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 404 - 29/06/2025 19:18:26    2622265

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@logger Sorry, living in Wexford and having a Wexford wife and children I thought it was OK to comment on the standard of hurling in the county.
@Viking Damien Reck could be a top hurler but having seen him v Dublin he is not a centre back and he was completely destroyed by Cathal Mannion v Galway. But I also think Shane if fit is a way better hurler.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1408 - 29/06/2025 21:52:56    2622359

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "@logger Sorry, living in Wexford and having a Wexford wife and children I thought it was OK to comment on the standard of hurling in the county.
@Viking Damien Reck could be a top hurler but having seen him v Dublin he is not a centre back and he was completely destroyed by Cathal Mannion v Galway. But I also think Shane if fit is a way better hurler."
Not sure how you reckon Cathal Mannion destroyed him. Damien wasn't marking Cathal.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 30/06/2025 07:38:38    2622460

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "@logger Sorry, living in Wexford and having a Wexford wife and children I thought it was OK to comment on the standard of hurling in the county.
@Viking Damien Reck could be a top hurler but having seen him v Dublin he is not a centre back and he was completely destroyed by Cathal Mannion v Galway. But I also think Shane if fit is a way better hurler."
Shane did score a point from play this year, his first that I ever saw for club or county at any age. Shane is a better man marker I think, but I still believe Damien is a better all round hurler.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 30/06/2025 10:17:06    2622518

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not sure how you reckon Cathal Mannion destroyed him. Damien wasn't marking Cathal."
Who was marking Cathal Mannion viking?

Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 532 - 30/06/2025 10:44:20    2622530

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Who was marking Cathal Mannion viking?"
Noone seemed to follow him around the pitch in the game I watched. Like all modern intercounty 11s playing high level hurling he roamed. All the counties seem uninclined to detail a man to mark a roaming 11.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 30/06/2025 10:48:18    2622535

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Who was marking Cathal Mannion viking?"
Damien Reck was suppose to be.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 838 - 30/06/2025 11:21:40    2622560

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Replying To Magpie2:  "Fair point viking.it remains to be seen of course if those lads who are now 23 or 24 will become leaders in the next few years. If not I fear for the future of wexford hurling.
Our attitude going forward should be if Dublin can do it, why not us?
It will only happen though if our defence become teak tough. That is where the problem lies.
We are lightweight in our back six. Teams love playing against us because they know we are very vulnerable when run at.
Some on here believe we do have intensity. I disagree. We do at times but it's rarely sustained.
We just seem to drift out of games too easily allowing the opposition to gain the initiative.
It can be very frustrating following our team.
The results over the last few years says it all."
Forwards let the ball out very handy too, some of which seems to be tactical. Let's be honest, the workrate across the board isn't up to par. Backs can't handle being ran at and pretty much every team tried to target us in the air too. I guess not easy replace likes of Liam Ryan, MOH, P Foley, all who were strong at both.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 431 - 30/06/2025 11:46:16    2622574

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Replying To Viking66:  "Noone seemed to follow him around the pitch in the game I watched. Like all modern intercounty 11s playing high level hurling he roamed. All the counties seem uninclined to detail a man to mark a roaming 11."
I think the logic is supposed to be that the 6 should drop back and hold centre, that the midfielders should sit back a little and watch for a drifting 11, and the half-forward line should drop to sit on the opposition midfielders as well as creating more space in front of the full-forward line

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 30/06/2025 12:22:24    2622587

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Forwards let the ball out very handy too, some of which seems to be tactical. Let's be honest, the workrate across the board isn't up to par. Backs can't handle being ran at and pretty much every team tried to target us in the air too. I guess not easy replace likes of Liam Ryan, MOH, P Foley, all who were strong at both."
Spot on

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 30/06/2025 12:26:28    2622589

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Replying To ElGranSenor:  "I think the logic is supposed to be that the 6 should drop back and hold centre, that the midfielders should sit back a little and watch for a drifting 11, and the half-forward line should drop to sit on the opposition midfielders as well as creating more space in front of the full-forward line"
Yes. For that you need forwards who will work hard without the ball. And midfielders who are good at reading the game. Damien covers in behind all our other backs especially the wing backs but also the cornerbacks, without him we'd have conceded a lot more goals the last few years that we haven't had a sweeper.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16438 - 30/06/2025 12:29:57    2622594

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