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In reality it was a hard watch.
Limerick were far superior al over the field.
Their backs had the measure of us all day.
We did try hard but never looked like getting to grips with them.
To be honest I was glad when it was over. Very tame effort and very few positives to take away.
Hopefully we will witness better next year and the resources and coaching and money the CB are pumping in to our underage will bear fruit.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 24/05/2025 17:46:11
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Poor year at minor. Some poor beatings this year and tbh most of our good play came when games were already lost and made some bit of fight back at stages but every team bar Dublin and Laois we've played have basically destroyed us in a 10/15 minute purple patch and have the game won or completely out of reach, the Kilkenny game, the two Galway games, Limerick. You'd say something about it happening once but 4 times, you'd start to wonder about in game management from the line and some of the players too. Never killed any momentum and had a bit of cuteness to take the sting out of it for a few mins. One positive to take is they never gave up and tried hard but just lack a bit of quality. Terrible shooting at times, crazy shot selection. Some good lads in it though. O'Brien had one of his quieter games over last two years, wonder was he still not over his injury. Hard luck and hopefully a more positive future for them." Alot of that was down to poor set up especially in the 1st halves of those games.
Just read back on your post there and it's your usual mix. The 2 Galway games we were missing a good few players due to the Peters school trip the first day and injuries to 2 of our best players last week, both of whom werent fully fit this week either. The Kilkenny and Limerick games we started slowly both halves and never really recovered against Kilkenny.
We would've been alot closer to Limerick had we taken our points instead of going for goals in the ladt 10 or 15 minutes.
We beat Dublin well, 9 points, and against a good Laois side who beat Offaly by 31 points we finished out strongly to win also. In fact we finished strongly in most of our games when the lads were let hurl. Except the Kilkenny game.
Overall I think you are being harsh on the young lads saying they had a poor year, look at Tipp, they didn't win a single championship game all year, and were probably everyone's favourites to win it at the start of the year.
Also worth bearing in mind all the teams we played bar Laois have way more minor hurlers than we have, and Laois have more hurling only underage than we have too.
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Replying To Viking66: "Set up was poor, especially in the 1st half. Limerick had the freedom of the middle 3rd. We shouldve took our points down the home stretch, started dropping in scoreable frees too early looking for goals. If we'd of taken those 5 or 6 points we'd of only been 2 or 3 down coming into the last couple minutes of injury time.
On the plus side we finished very strong in general play, we were well on top in the last quarter and the lads showed great fight. Some of these lads will make good u20s, and hopefully Seniors, down the line." I liked Daragh Ryan and Sean O Brien. Some of the backs looked bright also Carley I think?
Some of our wides were very frustrating. We could have been in touching distance instead of being 9 or so points down with 10 mins left.
Another issue apart from wides was constant concession of frees. When the ball went to ground I thought we were 2nd to most of the balls.
Credit to em.for battling on.
Season over for our hurlers now really, seems.to be a non event of the year.
I hope our development squads and arabawn teams got on well.
WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 415 - 24/05/2025 17:47:51
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Replying To wexford2012: "Well said Murph, some of the comments here are out of order, this is 17 year old lads, can adults commenting here please have some sense of a duty of care. To my viewing the game was lost between the 5 and 20 minutes when we allowed Limerick build a lead we struggled and ultimately did not close. I'm of course disappointed BUT was impressed with the skills and ability of the Wexford players, it underscored again for me the heights that even u17 hurling is reaching. We have in this group many fine, strong, big and committed hurlers. They played to the final whistle and 'died with their boots on' - tough that this is the end of the road for this group but hopefully many will be back next year and others can progress to u20 and in time the senior ranks." Another great post lad
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16073 - 24/05/2025 17:47:58
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "Poor year at minor. Some poor beatings this year and tbh most of our good play came when games were already lost and made some bit of fight back at stages but every team bar Dublin and Laois we've played have basically destroyed us in a 10/15 minute purple patch and have the game won or completely out of reach, the Kilkenny game, the two Galway games, Limerick. You'd say something about it happening once but 4 times, you'd start to wonder about in game management from the line and some of the players too. Never killed any momentum and had a bit of cuteness to take the sting out of it for a few mins. One positive to take is they never gave up and tried hard but just lack a bit of quality. Terrible shooting at times, crazy shot selection. Some good lads in it though. O'Brien had one of his quieter games over last two years, wonder was he still not over his injury. Hard luck and hopefully a more positive future for them." He couldn't have been fit. They had to remove his nail for stitches in his finger.
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Replying To ElGranSenor: "They beat us by two points in 2022 and they had worse teams than us prior that and looking at Minor, their teams to come are worse than us too
Not that we're the benchmark to be using but still, just because we're not winning All-Irelands at under-age doesn't mean we're destined for Joe McDonagh in the long-run" 100%.
One good underage team in 40 years and everyone making a massive deal about it
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Any word how the development squads got on this morning
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Replying To Viking66: "We have a far younger team and panel named than Kilkenny have for tomorrow" Yes viking we probably are younger but we have most of our team with more first team experience.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 24/05/2025 17:59:50
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Replying To wexford2012: "Well said Murph, some of the comments here are out of order, this is 17 year old lads, can adults commenting here please have some sense of a duty of care. To my viewing the game was lost between the 5 and 20 minutes when we allowed Limerick build a lead we struggled and ultimately did not close. I'm of course disappointed BUT was impressed with the skills and ability of the Wexford players, it underscored again for me the heights that even u17 hurling is reaching. We have in this group many fine, strong, big and committed hurlers. They played to the final whistle and 'died with their boots on' - tough that this is the end of the road for this group but hopefully many will be back next year and others can progress to u20 and in time the senior ranks." You must have been watching a different match than I was. A few good moves but I couldn't see much in the line of players for the future.
Limerick bossed us for most of that game. They were smarter, made fewer errors and took their scores with ease.
Another year with nothing to show for our efforts.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 24/05/2025 18:20:15
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Was checking back on our team for tomorrow but wexford gaa website have removed the team selection.
I wonder is the reason so as we will buy a program for €5.00 littered with ads and very little relevant information. Noticed that before. So our phones will be of no use on the day.
Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 505 - 24/05/2025 18:41:20
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Replying To Magpie2: "Was checking back on our team for tomorrow but wexford gaa website have removed the team selection.
I wonder is the reason so as we will buy a program for €5.00 littered with ads and very little relevant information. Noticed that before. So our phones will be of no use on the day." That's bad, if its as say regarding the team selection.
You can see both teams here:
https://wexfordweekly.com/2025/05/23/wexford-senior-hurling-team-named-for-kilkenny-clash/wexford-news/
Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2819 - 24/05/2025 19:19:49
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Replying To Magpie2: "Was checking back on our team for tomorrow but wexford gaa website have removed the team selection.
I wonder is the reason so as we will buy a program for €5.00 littered with ads and very little relevant information. Noticed that before. So our phones will be of no use on the day." Did you not screenshot it?
https://wexfordweekly.com/2025/05/23/wexford-senior-hurling-team-named-for-kilkenny-clash/wexford-news/
There's a link for you. Bizarrest post I've seen in a long time.
Would you not recognise the lads at this stage?
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16073 - 24/05/2025 19:42:16
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Replying To Magpie2: "Yes viking we probably are younger but we have most of our team with more first team experience." Yes, but far less adult experience. Our lads didn't even play club adult til they were 19 or near it. Maybe 2 or 3 years is all.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16073 - 24/05/2025 19:43:53
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Replying To Magpie2: "In reality it was a hard watch.
Limerick were far superior al over the field.
Their backs had the measure of us all day.
We did try hard but never looked like getting to grips with them.
To be honest I was glad when it was over. Very tame effort and very few positives to take away.
Hopefully we will witness better next year and the resources and coaching and money the CB are pumping in to our underage will bear fruit." We are spending less on our county underage than most other counties.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16073 - 24/05/2025 19:45:08
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Replying To Viking66: "Alot of that was down to poor set up especially in the 1st halves of those games.
Just read back on your post there and it's your usual mix. The 2 Galway games we were missing a good few players due to the Peters school trip the first day and injuries to 2 of our best players last week, both of whom werent fully fit this week either. The Kilkenny and Limerick games we started slowly both halves and never really recovered against Kilkenny.
We would've been alot closer to Limerick had we taken our points instead of going for goals in the ladt 10 or 15 minutes.
We beat Dublin well, 9 points, and against a good Laois side who beat Offaly by 31 points we finished out strongly to win also. In fact we finished strongly in most of our games when the lads were let hurl. Except the Kilkenny game.
Overall I think you are being harsh on the young lads saying they had a poor year, look at Tipp, they didn't win a single championship game all year, and were probably everyone's favourites to win it at the start of the year.
Also worth bearing in mind all the teams we played bar Laois have way more minor hurlers than we have, and Laois have more hurling only underage than we have too." The way you go on sometimes you'd swear we've absolutely no young lads hurling in the county at all….everyone has more lads playing hurling than us…do Mayo have more hurling clubs than us too?. We don't have a small population at all, we've about the same as Tipp and we're a lot closer in population to Limerick and Galway than they are to even Cork. It was a poor year, we call it a poor year and not going looking for excuses in every game. Playing the poor hand. Sure the teams we played were also missing lads for their games too. I've see the football we play in Wexford, a lot of it is token and not to any crazy standard, like realistically how much of an effect can that have…I'm sick pointing out other dual counties are ok with it and most cases they're operating at a higher level in both. Think this just proves Michael Duignans thing about Wexford, we're always ok with being middling as long as we're not the worst in it (also not that he's some massive saviour figure but just using it to prove a point)
Then why have we the same set up in the first for 4 games if that's the reason for it?
Ya, and Tipp had a terrible year? I'm sure they'll looking for answer as to why they had a terrible year and not trying to dress it up as anything but a bad year. Even the Tipp podcast, Premier Podcast or something (not big fans of there's tbh, too smary and gloating all the time) was calling it out for be very disappointing and what are the reasons for it and why it was such a bad year….instead we'll always go, we were bad but look there was other teams who were even worse…
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I thought Limerick did a good job working the ball out and they reminded me a bit of their Senior team a bit, feel like Kinnerk all wants them playing the same way and to be fair to them, they did a good job of it
Don't think we were as well-drilled as they were in terms of how we wanted to play, also found it frustrating the number of free runners they had, they were a lot more alert on the breaks as well
I suppose that's what frustrates me more than anything else, it's one thing getting out-hurled but not reading breaks and not tracking runners doesn't really have much to do with ability (Or a lack thereof)
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What I think people are most frustrated by is the fact we're not really bridging the gap with the counties ahead of us in the pecking order and haven't been doing so for a while tbh. The Minors were the 7th best team in the country this year and around 7th best is where we have been for a long time as a county now at Minor/U20/Senior level
I think some people see a lack of progress as us going backwards but we're not really going backwards as such, we're pretty much in the exact same position we have been in for the last half-century
I also think people are too quick to complain and take issue with our performances too often. If you think we're not at the races, then you also have to think that there's no quick fix and that it'll take time to change things, have to have patience rather than going on about how bad we are every week or two
This isn't saying that what we're doing right now is guaranteed to work right now, just that even if we are to turn things around, it won't be an overnight thing
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: "The way you go on sometimes you'd swear we've absolutely no young lads hurling in the county at all….everyone has more lads playing hurling than us…do Mayo have more hurling clubs than us too?. We don't have a small population at all, we've about the same as Tipp and we're a lot closer in population to Limerick and Galway than they are to even Cork. It was a poor year, we call it a poor year and not going looking for excuses in every game. Playing the poor hand. Sure the teams we played were also missing lads for their games too. I've see the football we play in Wexford, a lot of it is token and not to any crazy standard, like realistically how much of an effect can that have…I'm sick pointing out other dual counties are ok with it and most cases they're operating at a higher level in both. Think this just proves Michael Duignans thing about Wexford, we're always ok with being middling as long as we're not the worst in it (also not that he's some massive saviour figure but just using it to prove a point)
Then why have we the same set up in the first for 4 games if that's the reason for it?
Ya, and Tipp had a terrible year? I'm sure they'll looking for answer as to why they had a terrible year and not trying to dress it up as anything but a bad year. Even the Tipp podcast, Premier Podcast or something (not big fans of there's tbh, too smary and gloating all the time) was calling it out for be very disappointing and what are the reasons for it and why it was such a bad year….instead we'll always go, we were bad but look there was other teams who were even worse…" Tipp had a terrible year? Their year is far from over yet. They will, at the very least, play an All-Ireland preliminary quarter-final.
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Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Tipp had a terrible year? Their year is far from over yet. They will, at the very least, play an All-Ireland preliminary quarter-final." Tipp minors Cockney Cat
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Replying To Throughthemidfieldhewasstormin: " Replying To Cockney_Cat: "Tipp had a terrible year? Their year is far from over yet. They will, at the very least, play an All-Ireland preliminary quarter-final." Tipp minors Cockney Cat"
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