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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "I dunno, something seems a bit hollow with super clubs winning and no unbridled joy at the whistle. Players probably know 5% of the supporters."
You know nothing about Na Fianna who I presume is your target, Far from being a "super club." Of course they could always give up and tell the hundreds of kids playing for them to stick to their phones?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 17:33:10    2583643

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Replying To exref:  "Slaughtneil unlucky but definitely got the rough end of a few decisions…. SARS should easily have been at least two men down to red cards…. Same old story, again."
nonsense

CorkLiamMcCarthy24 (Cork) - Posts: 72 - 15/12/2024 17:36:24    2583644

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "nonsense"
He's right, even your one of commentators said so about McCarthy as they were announcing him man of the match! Won't matter to Na Fianna. Well able for anything :-)

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 17:50:34    2583648

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "Loughrea will start as favourites in final."
Which final will that be? The arrogance of some people is unbelievable. Are you Katser's Cork cousin?

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 17:54:34    2583649

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "I dunno, something seems a bit hollow with super clubs winning and no unbridled joy at the whistle. Players probably know 5% of the supporters."
Sounds just like divisional teams certain counties have...

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2115 - 15/12/2024 18:01:22    2583652

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "He's right, even your one of commentators said so about McCarthy as they were announcing him man of the match! Won't matter to Na Fianna. Well able for anything :-)"
You mean Jack O' Connor! He deservedly got man of match! Looking forward to competitive final.

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 417 - 15/12/2024 18:35:04    2583660

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "nonsense"
A booked player dragged a player down off the ball twice after being booked, and any deliberate head contact with the stick are both red cards. If that had been by a ulster player he would have walked, and rightly.

exref (Antrim) - Posts: 72 - 15/12/2024 19:00:42    2583662

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "You mean Jack O' Connor! He deservedly got man of match! Looking forward to competitive final."
Apologies! He did but on another day he might have been in trouble.

Final should be good. Both teams will appreciate the pitch and hopefully a dry windless day. Bookies odds, as we saw today, mean little. Hard to pick winner.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 19:14:19    2583665

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Replying To CorkLiamMcCarthy24:  "I dunno, something seems a bit hollow with super clubs winning and no unbridled joy at the whistle. Players probably know 5% of the supporters."
Come down to our Super Club Clubhouse not a single GAA euro used in building it and you will see unbridled joy. I alway thought 'cluchie' was an ugly and derogatory term but sometimes it easily earned.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4948 - 15/12/2024 19:17:10    2583666

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Replying To arock:  "Come down to our Super Club Clubhouse not a single GAA euro used in building it and you will see unbridled joy. I alway thought 'cluchie' was an ugly and derogatory term but sometimes it easily earned."
He probably thinks same of Glen and Nemo!

Lots of "culchies" involved in Dublin over years so another term best left idle.

Na Fianna are credit to themselves and Dublin. Know lads involved with them for decades and delighted to see them doing so well. Would not have had same high opinion of ballers when they were winning Dublin!

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 20:35:14    2583677

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Two very tight semi-finals today, decided by the minimum. Both could easily have gone the other way.
The winners will feel they have a lot of room for improvement for the final.
Both games were scrappy enough and some poor mistakes from all 4 teams, but they were very close and competitive and that's often enough to keep everyone engaged.
Not a single goal scored by either team today.
It's hard enough to pick a winner in the final after today's games. I thought Na Fianna would win with a bit to spare, but they were very evenly matched.
You'd expect Croke Park to suit both teams.

WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2226 - 15/12/2024 21:44:47    2583685

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Replying To WanPintWin:  "Two very tight semi-finals today, decided by the minimum. Both could easily have gone the other way.
The winners will feel they have a lot of room for improvement for the final.
Both games were scrappy enough and some poor mistakes from all 4 teams, but they were very close and competitive and that's often enough to keep everyone engaged.
Not a single goal scored by either team today.
It's hard enough to pick a winner in the final after today's games. I thought Na Fianna would win with a bit to spare, but they were very evenly matched.
You'd expect Croke Park to suit both teams."
Great defensive hurling from all four. Curbed the main men mostly on all sides. Long time since Dónal held scoreless.

Its been good competion. When you see how long a campaign its been for all it would be difficult to begrudge any winner.

A great leveller too. Derry seniors would have 30+ spread v Cork. Sléacht Néill are up there with any club.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 15/12/2024 22:25:42    2583686

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Replying To exref:  "A booked player dragged a player down off the ball twice after being booked, and any deliberate head contact with the stick are both red cards. If that had been by an ulster player he would have walked, and rightly."
Agreed- abysmal stuff. Should have been one off for second yellow. Don't get me started on the steps.

HurlingObserver (Down) - Posts: 65 - 15/12/2024 23:10:24    2583688

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Shane O'Regan a former Watergrasshill hurler & Cork under 20 star who transferred a few miles down the road to Sarsfields last year will be a big addition to Sarsfields in the final as will their recent addition from Kerry, Sarsfields number 5, Bryan Murphy who was playing County hurling with Kerry up until the end of 2022.

These two recent imports in particular were very influential in Sarsfields beating Ballygunanr in the Munster final, so you'd imagine they will play a big part in the final v Na Fianna.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 849 - 16/12/2024 01:41:34    2583701

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Replying To exref:  "A booked player dragged a player down off the ball twice after being booked, and any deliberate head contact with the stick are both red cards. If that had been by a ulster player he would have walked, and rightly."
The head contact should have been a straight red.
Maybe a couple of other marginal decisions against Slaughtneil.
Though, there were quite a few of their own 'pulling and dragging' tackles penalised but a number missed.

We have to make our mind up about the rules. There will always be things 'missed' by the ref, but a conscious decision to ignore blatant fouls and dangerous tackles, like the ref did in 1st round of Ulster is not on. The same ref was woeful in the Carey game, and nearly cost them.

Can't pass without recognising Carey. Unreal performance from such a small club

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 315 - 16/12/2024 15:59:18    2583764

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "He probably thinks same of Glen and Nemo!

Lots of "culchies" involved in Dublin over years so another term best left idle.

Na Fianna are credit to themselves and Dublin. Know lads involved with them for decades and delighted to see them doing so well. Would not have had same high opinion of ballers when they were winning Dublin!"
I wholeheartedly agree, Barney. Na Fianna is a great club and always has been. As a Dublin-based "culchie" many years ago I availed of their hospitality on more than one occasion, and was always made welcome even though I was still playing with my home club. I have nothing against Sarsfields but I would love to see Na Fianna win the final.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 590 - 17/12/2024 21:07:11    2583912

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Replying To midlands:  "I wholeheartedly agree, Barney. Na Fianna is a great club and always has been. As a Dublin-based "culchie" many years ago I availed of their hospitality on more than one occasion, and was always made welcome even though I was still playing with my home club. I have nothing against Sarsfields but I would love to see Na Fianna win the final."
Have to laugh at the "culchie" term, that's used by Dubliners for the rural redneck country bumpkins. I've forgotten about the term as I've lived outside Ireland for decades, but I remember Kiltimagh was pronounced "culchie muck". I guess it's a relic of a parochial Ireland, when a person who ventured to live in another county was considered a "blow in" and anyone not from Dublin was a culchie. Gaelic football was derided as "bogball" in the 1970's, and took Heffo's army to bring it back to popularity. Big difference to today's Ireland when 20% of population is non Irish born, and diversity is the norm!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 417 - 21/12/2024 16:59:29    2584242

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Replying To Ryanteam:  "Have to laugh at the "culchie" term, that's used by Dubliners for the rural redneck country bumpkins. I've forgotten about the term as I've lived outside Ireland for decades, but I remember Kiltimagh was pronounced "culchie muck". I guess it's a relic of a parochial Ireland, when a person who ventured to live in another county was considered a "blow in" and anyone not from Dublin was a culchie. Gaelic football was derided as "bogball" in the 1970's, and took Heffo's army to bring it back to popularity. Big difference to today's Ireland when 20% of population is non Irish born, and diversity is the norm!"
You think the last part is good? No sane society craves its people becoming a minority which CSO is tracking will happen after 2060.

BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 3301 - 21/12/2024 22:27:18    2584261

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You think the last part is good? No sane society craves its people becoming a minority which CSO is tracking will happen after 2060."
A much bigger issue going forward is that the fertility rate in Ireland is now 1.5. To maintain a population at the same number (without inward migration) a fertility rate of 2.1 is required. So as things stand (unless our younger citizens suddenly change and start having more children) we will definitely be "craving" much higher inward migration to keep the wheels of commerce turning and provide services for an ageing "native" population.
Bottom line the fertility rate of our "native" population" is too low to stay still.
Not sure what this has to do with club hurling lol.

sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 824 - 22/12/2024 12:56:07    2584276

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Replying To BarneyGrant:  "You think the last part is good? No sane society craves its people becoming a minority which CSO is tracking will happen after 2060."
Time will tell I suppose. On another topic, I was proud of the Irish and being Irish in the way Harris and Higgins stood up to Israel on Palestinian issue. We're now Paddystillians, but that's good as the country's leaders stood by their principles. Back to original thread, Sars and na Fianna will have a battle in New Year… Sars have a very evenly balanced team, are well coached, and fight hard for each other. I'm optimistic that Glanmire will be celebrating soon!

Ryanteam (Cork) - Posts: 417 - 22/12/2024 13:29:09    2584281

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