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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "I agree that yes coaching at both school and club needs to improve, but there is no fairness to either Harris or the county board, we need a lot more than sitting in an office organising courses, we need passion from the coaches in wexford park and a serious connection between them and the clubs and schools, are they gone stale???
with all the money gone into coaching why are we not reaping the rewards at least at u20 level,
the 3 in a row u21 is fast becoming just a memory, i don't mind minor level as the boys are still developing as 16 and 17year olds but we have to be consistency competitive at u20"
Agree we need to be consistently competitive at u20, and then hopefully at Senior. As regards coaching what more can Wexford GAA do than organise sessions and courses to improve the standard of coaching? Mihael and Ray can't hire a coach or 2 and drive them round the clubs and schools forcing people to get on board with shotguns. It's up to the people of Wexford to go on these courses, rather than stand on the sidelines, or even worse not bother standing on the sidelines supporting the teams.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 13:57:11    2538067

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Replying To OpenStandWall:  "Johnny Murphy the ref for Sunday - don't think I'll ever forget the league game in Croke park right before Covid something like 50 frees between the two sides."
I'm won't either but in fairness to him just like a player can improve I think he's improved significantly as a referee since that game.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 13:57:54    2538068

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Replying To ChinCanHurl:  "My young lad is involved with the 14s. They train once a week on sat mornings in ferns and have a gym session on Wednesdays in the Peter's. He trains with me twice a week in the gym as well, hard to get them to eat enough at that age though!"
Fair play to you for encouraging and supporting him. I hope it works out for him and he gets to play Senior some day. And better again win something at Senior!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 13:59:01    2538070

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "it's one thing talking the talk but it's another thing walking the walk, what results have we got in wexford for all our reports and plans?
kilkenny may have launched a similar plan but thety will add passion and make it a success,
if anything kilkenny will look to both clare and limerick
not hitting at you viking or ray Harris, but we should not accept mediocrity in wexford, don't just put it on paper but make it happen, if not get some else who can??"
I agree we shouldn't accept mediocrity, but that's pretty much where we have been at since I was at National school in the 70s. Change has to happen from the bottom up, and from being involved over the winter with the u12s our skill development from u8 to u12 in the clubs is way behind other counties.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 14:02:06    2538071

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Replying To Viking66:  "But you will find out that Damiens aunts brother in law might work in the village stores in Crossabeg...."
I'm afraid going to the match isn't an option when your living in Perth! They had another lad commentating on SE radio (for the cork match if memory serves me right) and he actually commentated on the match which was a pleasant surprise - I think Spratt was down in Enniscorthy commentating on the football match. Anyway, I suppose we can all look forward to the day Spratt retires and they get someone in that can actually do some commentating!

Davidwex (Wexford) - Posts: 11 - 15/04/2024 14:03:22    2538072

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not really in Wexford GAA. Yes there are lads who go to gyms regularly, but the vast majority of club players don't. I know some lads who have been on the Senior panel the last few years who never set foot in a gym before they were called up. And being as I don't know that many I'm sure there are plenty more like them also."
Dont know if I agree with that . I know my own club The last two years we have been given gym programmes , everyone posts their work to an app group and we are regularly tested so there is no hiding place. The main focus is both strength , power and injury prevention . I think even at club level now you will not be able to compete if lads arent doing gym work

Afinestick96 (Wexford) - Posts: 345 - 15/04/2024 14:12:32    2538079

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "it's one thing talking the talk but it's another thing walking the walk, what results have we got in wexford for all our reports and plans?
kilkenny may have launched a similar plan but thety will add passion and make it a success,
if anything kilkenny will look to both clare and limerick
not hitting at you viking or ray Harris, but we should not accept mediocrity in wexford, don't just put it on paper but make it happen, if not get some else who can??"
Just out of interest, now we are talking about walking the walk, are you involved in coaching? If not, why not? If you are, how do you think you need to improve? What have you done to improve your coaching? If you already a good coach, award 2 say, then why aren't you involved coaching an underage development squad?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 14:21:30    2538083

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Replying To Viking66:  "Not really in Wexford GAA. Yes there are lads who go to gyms regularly, but the vast majority of club players don't. I know some lads who have been on the Senior panel the last few years who never set foot in a gym before they were called up. And being as I don't know that many I'm sure there are plenty more like them also."
I'm not doubting you but I find that to believe, even in the club game I would have taught you'd be left behind these days if you weren't putting in the S&C work.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 14:27:03    2538084

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Dont know if I agree with that . I know my own club The last two years we have been given gym programmes , everyone posts their work to an app group and we are regularly tested so there is no hiding place. The main focus is both strength , power and injury prevention . I think even at club level now you will not be able to compete if lads arent doing gym work"
Around 2017/18 time I was working with a lad who plays club Junior hurling and Senior football in Laois, he told me whoever was in charge of them had the metric given to them in January of if you couldn't squat your body weight by the club championship started which was April back then you weren't getting on the starting team.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 14:46:19    2538095

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Replying To Davidwex:  "I'm afraid going to the match isn't an option when your living in Perth! They had another lad commentating on SE radio (for the cork match if memory serves me right) and he actually commentated on the match which was a pleasant surprise - I think Spratt was down in Enniscorthy commentating on the football match. Anyway, I suppose we can all look forward to the day Spratt retires and they get someone in that can actually do some commentating!"
That was Noel Holohan I think, yeah Spratt was doing the football later that evening which was actually postponed til the next day.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 14:48:35    2538097

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Around 2017/18 time I was working with a lad who plays club Junior hurling and Senior football in Laois, he told me whoever was in charge of them had the metric given to them in January of if you couldn't squat your body weight by the club championship started which was April back then you weren't getting on the starting team."
Just to clarify think it was more geared towards the football given they were competing at a higher standard.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 14:52:19    2538100

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Replying To Davidwex:  "I'm afraid going to the match isn't an option when your living in Perth! They had another lad commentating on SE radio (for the cork match if memory serves me right) and he actually commentated on the match which was a pleasant surprise - I think Spratt was down in Enniscorthy commentating on the football match. Anyway, I suppose we can all look forward to the day Spratt retires and they get someone in that can actually do some commentating!"
I actually enjoy Spratts commentary in fairness and have sometimes listened to it while watching a match, but it gives you very little about what's happening on the pitch:-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 15:09:59    2538107

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Replying To wexfordminor92:  "viking, please explain why is current academy system is not working for wexford"
It didn't work for Limerick til 2015 and 2017. It takes time. And they had an exceptional group of players, its not often you get lads that size all coming at the one time in any county. Also I think the lads at u14 and u15 need to get together more often tbh. Not sure how that can be organised or funded either tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 15:12:46    2538109

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Replying To Afinestick96:  "Dont know if I agree with that . I know my own club The last two years we have been given gym programmes , everyone posts their work to an app group and we are regularly tested so there is no hiding place. The main focus is both strength , power and injury prevention . I think even at club level now you will not be able to compete if lads arent doing gym work"
You are with a Senior club I'm guessing?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 15:14:05    2538110

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Around 2017/18 time I was working with a lad who plays club Junior hurling and Senior football in Laois, he told me whoever was in charge of them had the metric given to them in January of if you couldn't squat your body weight by the club championship started which was April back then you weren't getting on the starting team."
I'm a member of an Intermediate club, alot of the lads never went near a gym. We got one in last year and a good few lads haven't used it. Guess that's one of the reasons we are only Intermediate!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 15:16:02    2538111

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Replying To Viking66:  "I actually enjoy Spratts commentary in fairness and have sometimes listened to it while watching a match, but it gives you very little about what's happening on the pitch:-D"
He provides the odd comedy moment but in terms of the actual function of a radio commentator not so much.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 17:06:14    2538149

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm a member of an Intermediate club, alot of the lads never went near a gym. We got one in last year and a good few lads haven't used it. Guess that's one of the reasons we are only Intermediate!"
Until I got a small bit of gym equipment in the house over the covid lockdowns I used to use the gym of 1 of the hotels around Wexford town and you'd see GAA players from local clubs constantly, if clubs are getting in there own gyms obviously you might not see as much of that.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 15/04/2024 17:16:02    2538154

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Until I got a small bit of gym equipment in the house over the covid lockdowns I used to use the gym of 1 of the hotels around Wexford town and you'd see GAA players from local clubs constantly, if clubs are getting in there own gyms obviously you might not see as much of that."
I go to a gym in town. There are past and present players from Martins, Shels, Oylegate, Mary's, Joe's, and Barntown who use it. More again use the Ferrycarrig. Some of our lads have gyms at home, while others have been going since they were 18. But there are still a good few adult players at our club who don't do any gym work in an organised or regular way, and I know of several other clubs where that's the case also. We got a gym together last year, and some lads are using it. But not all by any stretch.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 13441 - 15/04/2024 17:25:15    2538160

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Replying To Viking66:  "I'm a member of an Intermediate club, alot of the lads never went near a gym. We got one in last year and a good few lads haven't used it. Guess that's one of the reasons we are only Intermediate!"
Gym isn't the be all and end all. As long as players are in good condition and are relatively big enough they have a good chance of winning. A team of 15 that go to the gym isn't going to beat a team of 15 decent hurlers

Wexforduser89 (Wexford) - Posts: 11 - 15/04/2024 18:08:09    2538168

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Replying To Davidwex:  "I'm afraid going to the match isn't an option when your living in Perth! They had another lad commentating on SE radio (for the cork match if memory serves me right) and he actually commentated on the match which was a pleasant surprise - I think Spratt was down in Enniscorthy commentating on the football match. Anyway, I suppose we can all look forward to the day Spratt retires and they get someone in that can actually do some commentating!"
Spratt will never retire. I enjoy his commentary

Yellowhelmet (Australia) - Posts: 115 - 15/04/2024 21:30:45    2538191

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