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Wexford Hurling thread 2024

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Will Wexford win an All Ireland at any level soon? Last appearance at senior, minor or U20/21 was 2015 and got battered by Limerick. Watching Offaly last night, would love to see that for Wexford but have no expectations of it happening soon. Hopefully the minors continue their good run this year and the seniors have a right go of it."
Hard to know. Maybe if they bring back the intermediate?

JJ Doyle's under 21s were extremely unlucky. They just happened to come at the same time as freakishly good Clare and Limerick teams. Any other years they'd have won one.

Should have beaten Limerick in 01 at 21 also.

01 and 19 are both ones that got away at senior. Incidentally both won by tipp.

I pray I'll live to see another but hard to imagine at times.

You not only need to have a great season, there's a huge amount of luck involved.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 02/06/2024 22:27:23    2549045

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "Hard to know. Maybe if they bring back the intermediate?

JJ Doyle's under 21s were extremely unlucky. They just happened to come at the same time as freakishly good Clare and Limerick teams. Any other years they'd have won one.

Should have beaten Limerick in 01 at 21 also.

01 and 19 are both ones that got away at senior. Incidentally both won by tipp.

I pray I'll live to see another but hard to imagine at times.

You not only need to have a great season, there's a huge amount of luck involved."
We could be lucky this season. No way of knowing yet. Minors could be too. Are you going up to Thurles today Doyler?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 03/06/2024 07:38:04    2549070

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Replying To Viking66:  "We could be lucky this season. No way of knowing yet. Minors could be too. Are you going up to Thurles today Doyler?"
I suppose we could be lucky, but the question is are we in the right place to capitalise on a bit of luck? I don't know. Based on the Galway or Carlow games or 33 minutes against Kilkenny I'd say yes. Based on the rest of the Kilkenny game, patches against Dublin or the last 20 minutes in Antrim you'd say know.

I would say I'm the single most optimistic Wexford supporter, in that every year I can map a route to an all Ireland (I've only been right once). I've also convinced myself we should win Leinster every single year (I've only been right four time). But I don't see any scenario that we could take Limerick. I'd give us a chance against anyone else.

Yes I'll be making the trip with my daughter. Although if anyone asks we'll be visiting my father. We're not supposed to be going the week her junior cert starts:)

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 03/06/2024 08:43:01    2549081

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Hopefully we get a reasonable Wexford support up in Thurles for the minors today! Good luck to the lads!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 03/06/2024 08:50:21    2549086

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I know the game is on sport TG4 but is it on south east radio. I'm working today and with the nature of my job don't know if I'll be able to see it or hear it

Wexfordgaa (Wexford) - Posts: 284 - 03/06/2024 10:02:36    2549110

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "I suppose we could be lucky, but the question is are we in the right place to capitalise on a bit of luck? I don't know. Based on the Galway or Carlow games or 33 minutes against Kilkenny I'd say yes. Based on the rest of the Kilkenny game, patches against Dublin or the last 20 minutes in Antrim you'd say know.

I would say I'm the single most optimistic Wexford supporter, in that every year I can map a route to an all Ireland (I've only been right once). I've also convinced myself we should win Leinster every single year (I've only been right four time). But I don't see any scenario that we could take Limerick. I'd give us a chance against anyone else.

Yes I'll be making the trip with my daughter. Although if anyone asks we'll be visiting my father. We're not supposed to be going the week her junior cert starts:)"
Good man Doyler!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 03/06/2024 10:44:10    2549121

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Replying To Viking66:  "We could be lucky this season. No way of knowing yet. Minors could be too. Are you going up to Thurles today Doyler?"
In terms of underage trophies over the years we never really put ourselves in the position to win a lot of trophies. I've heard too many bad things over the years from problems selecting managers to being years behind others in terms of s&C. Also teams coming back to train in February when others have been at it since November.

It's only lately where we seem to have an integrated schools s&c programme and proper academies etc. Did we have the players to win trophies.....Absolutely. Dis we have the Conditions? No.

I think or hope we'll be more competitive at underage over the coming years with structures in place now but you'd still hear the odd rumour about BS behind the scenes.

Also how do you gauge success? Is success winning trophies only to lose players like Galway? Or is success bringing in u20 players like we have done this year.

I'd love trophies. The Leinster 3 in a row was great but it'd mean nothing if we didn't turn those players into senior stars. Like other counties we.seem to lose lads for various reasons.. think of AJ Redmond fir example. The bees knees in 2019 and not hurling senior for us now.

I'm happy this year to see to see the young lada.Rossi brought in doing so well. That's success in itself isn't it?

WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 291 - 03/06/2024 10:50:54    2549124

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Replying To WEXILE:  "In terms of underage trophies over the years we never really put ourselves in the position to win a lot of trophies. I've heard too many bad things over the years from problems selecting managers to being years behind others in terms of s&C. Also teams coming back to train in February when others have been at it since November.

It's only lately where we seem to have an integrated schools s&c programme and proper academies etc. Did we have the players to win trophies.....Absolutely. Dis we have the Conditions? No.

I think or hope we'll be more competitive at underage over the coming years with structures in place now but you'd still hear the odd rumour about BS behind the scenes.

Also how do you gauge success? Is success winning trophies only to lose players like Galway? Or is success bringing in u20 players like we have done this year.

I'd love trophies. The Leinster 3 in a row was great but it'd mean nothing if we didn't turn those players into senior stars. Like other counties we.seem to lose lads for various reasons.. think of AJ Redmond fir example. The bees knees in 2019 and not hurling senior for us now.

I'm happy this year to see to see the young lada.Rossi brought in doing so well. That's success in itself isn't it?"
Well that's it really.

What's the purpose of underage only to produce seniors and we've gotten much better at that.

Back in 03 when we played Cork in the semi final they'd met at 21 a few years previous, cork had converted 8 and we'd only managed 2.

All the key players in jjs 21 team hurled senior for us.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 03/06/2024 13:42:48    2549169

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It's been a topic on here recently about the impact of referees. It's happening again in the minor match now.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 03/06/2024 15:47:46    2549195

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's been a topic on here recently about the impact of referees. It's happening again in the minor match now."
We seem to have a problem with our tackling across all grades to be fair. Cannot fault the lads for effort today but there was a huge lack of quality with much of our hurling. Forwards very poor. Relied on frees to keep us in the game for 50 mins. Disappointing because the game was there to be won until the final 10 mins or so

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 515 - 03/06/2024 16:19:48    2549207

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Clare the better team but that scoreline is very flattering to them. 3 or 4 points game tbh

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1012 - 03/06/2024 16:21:04    2549208

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This game has taught me something that I'd suspected for a while

I think we're a little too honest at most grades.

We probably need to start coaching lads to be a little more underhanded.

Things like feigning injury at the right time, if you want to take the head off a lad you do it at the sideline, the use of the spare had, giving digs in rucks etc. All of the more successful counties are obviously coaching these tactics from a young age.

Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 03/06/2024 16:21:21    2549209

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's been a topic on here recently about the impact of referees. It's happening again in the minor match now."
Clare were the better team. The ref did not let a game develop at all there but didn't really favour them. In the end I think what lost it for us is how badly we struggled up front. Forwards just didn't win enough ball and outside of O'Brien there was very little in the way of scoring threat.

Fulgrim (Wexford) - Posts: 257 - 03/06/2024 16:22:00    2549210

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's been a topic on here recently about the impact of referees. It's happening again in the minor match now."
I haven't been watching. Are Wexford getting the rough end of the stick once again..??

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 03/06/2024 16:25:39    2549212

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Replying To WEXILE:  "In terms of underage trophies over the years we never really put ourselves in the position to win a lot of trophies. I've heard too many bad things over the years from problems selecting managers to being years behind others in terms of s&C. Also teams coming back to train in February when others have been at it since November.

It's only lately where we seem to have an integrated schools s&c programme and proper academies etc. Did we have the players to win trophies.....Absolutely. Dis we have the Conditions? No.

I think or hope we'll be more competitive at underage over the coming years with structures in place now but you'd still hear the odd rumour about BS behind the scenes.

Also how do you gauge success? Is success winning trophies only to lose players like Galway? Or is success bringing in u20 players like we have done this year.

I'd love trophies. The Leinster 3 in a row was great but it'd mean nothing if we didn't turn those players into senior stars. Like other counties we.seem to lose lads for various reasons.. think of AJ Redmond fir example. The bees knees in 2019 and not hurling senior for us now.

I'm happy this year to see to see the young lada.Rossi brought in doing so well. That's success in itself isn't it?"
The only success that matters is senior and you'd have to feel that we have let a few opportunities slip in recent years through a lack of consistency. We have had three forwards of real class with Rory, Chin and at times Mac which is more than most eras.

Looking at teams coming through we have had some talented forwards such as Cian Byrne but no superstar. O.Brien from the seniors has the potential to be one but Chin will be finished by the time he is senior. We need a group to come together.

This years minors have been very inconsistent. I saw them play three times and watched the game online today. They have some really talented players but their discipline was poor and just lacked a real edge with the exception of O Brien.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 160 - 03/06/2024 17:05:10    2549225

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Replying To Purpleandgold72:  "I haven't been watching. Are Wexford getting the rough end of the stick once again..??"
We really do have an appalling record in hurling at minor level. No all Ireland since '68, just 3 Leinster Titles in 54 years. I suppose all the credentials were there today for another defeat…an all Ireland quarter final in Thurles against Munster opposition especially with it being Clare. It's hard to explain.

Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 03/06/2024 17:06:46    2549226

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "The only success that matters is senior and you'd have to feel that we have let a few opportunities slip in recent years through a lack of consistency. We have had three forwards of real class with Rory, Chin and at times Mac which is more than most eras.

Looking at teams coming through we have had some talented forwards such as Cian Byrne but no superstar. O.Brien from the seniors has the potential to be one but Chin will be finished by the time he is senior. We need a group to come together.

This years minors have been very inconsistent. I saw them play three times and watched the game online today. They have some really talented players but their discipline was poor and just lacked a real edge with the exception of O Brien."
There's no sign of an exceptional group coming through. We might be able to pick one or two out of each group but that doesn't tend to lead to senior success most of the time. Were hanging onto being a serious team at senior. The core group that won those U21s are still the driving force at senior and very little has followed it of the same quality. It comes down to the standard of coaching. Why is our first touch so poor and compared to other countries, why do we seemingly make so many unforced errors?

Offaly were in the pits. Christy Ring at one point. They've now won an All Ireland at U20 in both codes. Where's our All Ireland? It ain't coming anytime soon at any grade or code, I'm telling you!

Heartandhand96 (Wexford) - Posts: 19 - 03/06/2024 17:41:55    2549234

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Replying To Purpleandgold72:  "We really do have an appalling record in hurling at minor level. No all Ireland since '68, just 3 Leinster Titles in 54 years. I suppose all the credentials were there today for another defeat…an all Ireland quarter final in Thurles against Munster opposition especially with it being Clare. It's hard to explain."
And it will the same for the seniors.

Wexford will have to travel to Thurles probably during the day on a Saturday to take on Clare or Limerick in a quarter final.

And we all know how Clare perform in Croke Park so they would definitely prefer Thurles.

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 770 - 03/06/2024 17:53:00    2549237

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Replying To Heartandhand96:  "There's no sign of an exceptional group coming through. We might be able to pick one or two out of each group but that doesn't tend to lead to senior success most of the time. Were hanging onto being a serious team at senior. The core group that won those U21s are still the driving force at senior and very little has followed it of the same quality. It comes down to the standard of coaching. Why is our first touch so poor and compared to other countries, why do we seemingly make so many unforced errors?

Offaly were in the pits. Christy Ring at one point. They've now won an All Ireland at U20 in both codes. Where's our All Ireland? It ain't coming anytime soon at any grade or code, I'm telling you!"
Offaly winning an u20 football all Ireland has done nothing for their senior team. Time will tell whether their hurler's fortunes improve.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 515 - 03/06/2024 18:04:26    2549241

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Replying To Doylerwex:  "It's been a topic on here recently about the impact of referees. It's happening again in the minor match now."
I thought he was poor. Especially when we pulled it back to a point or 2 around the 40 minute mark. He gave a Clare scorable free when the Clare lad ran into our lad from behind and tripped over. He let their backs away with overcarrying numerous times.
At the same time we just weren't quite at it. A friend watched our lads warming up. They looked nervous and were dropping alot of ball. They warmed up on the pitch beside the ground which was a mistake. That pitch was dry and hard, I was out on it with 3 of the kids after the game . They chose to wear short studs and kept sliding over then.
We kept turning inside into the middle 3rd, which is where Clare had packed their middle 8. We shouldve played it and ran it wide more often. We also played poor passes to men who were marked, and alot of the lads looked 2 nervous to bring the ball on forwards themselves, or to get the head up.
Up or down Clare were the better team on the day and deserved the win, although the margin flattered them hugely.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 03/06/2024 18:13:25    2549242

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