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Replying To WEXILE: "What was his 1st target? I'd be surprised if he didn't think we could finish 3rd" Get into 1a for next year's League Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 01:58:22 2548632 Link
Replying To Viking66: "To get to a QF will exceed the target set for Rossiter in year one" So Rossitters target was to finish outside the top 3 in Leinster? Find that very hard to believe. Reaching a QF means you finished 3rd in Leinster and bet a Joe McDonagh team in the next round. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 770 - 01/06/2024 07:23:19 2548638 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Get into 1a for next year's League" Not even avoid relegation? If we weren't targeting a.leinster final then we seriously lack ambition WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 291 - 01/06/2024 07:58:12 2548642 Link
Replying To foreveryoung: "Yeah, their diving antics do not endear Clare to people either. Very few like a team to dominate like Limerick have done over the past 5-6 years, just like Jim Gavn's Dubs. But just like Jim Gavin's Dubs, Limerick don't give one hoot about whether they are liked or not. Winning is what concerns them. I don't think that Kilkenny have ever really been liked by neutrals, except by Wexford people who seem to be awestruck by the cats. Carlow aren't like that at all. Wexford, yerselves, aren't disliked by neutrals but choking like Wexford is wont to do, lets people down and they soon switch off following. It's even hard to get two Wexford people on here to agree with each other, such is the doubt and inconsistency surrounding the team. When Cork are down, keep 'em down! For too long they chirped and crowed in all our ears. They do play good hurling though, on certain days. If Limerick doesn't do it this year, then I'd like the Dubs to take Liam home. And don't forget, Leix and Offaly are still in the running." Personally think that would be really bad for hurling. Wexford people generally despise Kilkenny. We respect them obviously, but absolutely love beating them. It would be the only fixture outside Munster that has the same emotional attachment as any Munster rivalry Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 01/06/2024 08:08:54 2548645 Link
Replying To Viking66: "To get to a QF will exceed the target set for Rossiter in year one" I'm not so sure about that Viking. I'd suggest his target was 1a in the League and minimum 3rd in Leinster. In my lifetime we're generally a quarter final team. Not that finishing third in Leinster automatically amounts to that but we will be expected to beat whoever comes out of Joe Mac. I'd have taken this at the start of the year but given how the group played out I think we've actually underachieved. Whatever about Antrim, the way we let Dublin back was madness. Three years in a row we've been quite a bit ahead of them and somehow not managed to win any of those matches. Enough about that. It's great to still be there, particularly after what happened in Antrim. We just have to treat the next day as if it's our last. If we don't, then it will be. After that is really our all Ireland final. Momentum is a funny thing. If we managed to cause a surprise you never know what might happen. Regardless, Rossi has learned well, implementing a style, bringing on young lads, restored some pride and had some very respectable performances. He's done well this year. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 2894 - 01/06/2024 08:15:36 2548646 Link
Replying To WEXILE: "Not even avoid relegation? If we weren't targeting a.leinster final then we seriously lack ambition" 3rd was the minimum requirement Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 08:31:41 2548648 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "So Rossitters target was to finish outside the top 3 in Leinster? Find that very hard to believe. Reaching a QF means you finished 3rd in Leinster and bet a Joe McDonagh team in the next round." Minimum requirement was 3rd place apparently Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 08:32:28 2548649 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I'm talking about his official target" I'd say 1A in league and Leinster final appearance were targets with 3rd as an acceptable. Not qualifying in the top 3 would have been a disaster. wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 160 - 01/06/2024 08:35:44 2548652 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "So Rossitters target was to finish outside the top 3 in Leinster? Find that very hard to believe. Reaching a QF means you finished 3rd in Leinster and bet a Joe McDonagh team in the next round." The minimum ambition for any of the top four teams had to be qualification. Anything less would have been a big disappointment if not quite the disaster as it is for Galway. Probably true to say that (assuming a win over the McDonagh team) that anything beyond that was bonus territory for Wexford and Dublin. Having witnessed our utter demolition at the hands of Clare last year and having seen both Wexford and Dublin's propensity to take foot off the gas, facing Limerick, Clare or Cork is a big step up. Not convinced that either of us is ready to take any of them but at least the opportunity presents itself. You have to be ambitious and have self-belief at this stage or you will be taken apart. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2848 - 01/06/2024 08:39:22 2548653 Link
Replying To Past hurler: "So Rossitters target was to finish outside the top 3 in Leinster? Find that very hard to believe. Reaching a QF means you finished 3rd in Leinster and bet a Joe McDonagh team in the next round." Very hard to believe and lads then think we can beat Clare or Limerick. I know one thing for sure if the the hurlers have that mindset then we might not even beat Laois or Offally never mind Limerick or Clare. Sure our job for the year is already done. Nonsense WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 291 - 01/06/2024 08:46:50 2548654 Link
Replying To WEXILE: "Very hard to believe and lads then think we can beat Clare or Limerick. I know one thing for sure if the the hurlers have that mindset then we might not even beat Laois or Offally never mind Limerick or Clare. Sure our job for the year is already done. Nonsense" I think we could beat the losers of the Munster Final. Why couldn't we? The targets I was talking about were what were set out for Rossi at the start of his tenure for his 1st year. Last year was a shambles. When interviewing him for the job it would probably have been unreasonable to tell him we expect to win a Leinster final, or League title, in his 1st year beaing in mind where he was starting out from. Qualifying out of Leinster and getting 1a status for the League next year are light years ahead of where we were at last year. Bringing on so many of the younger players is a huge bonus too. There was no knowing lads like Chin, OHanlon, Mogie, Dee etc were going to commit at all either. Lee Chin even said it himself that he wasn't sure until he got talking to Keith. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 11:08:18 2548666 Link
Replying To WEXILE: "Very hard to believe and lads then think we can beat Clare or Limerick. I know one thing for sure if the the hurlers have that mindset then we might not even beat Laois or Offally never mind Limerick or Clare. Sure our job for the year is already done. Nonsense" I think we could beat the losers of the Munster Final. Why couldn't we? The targets I was talking about were what were set out for Rossi at the start of his tenure for his 1st year. Last year was a shambles. When interviewing him for the job it would probably have been unreasonable to tell him we expect to win a Leinster final, or League title, in his 1st year beaing in mind where he was starting out from. Qualifying out of Leinster and getting 1a status for the League next year are light years ahead of where we were at last year. Bringing on so many of the younger players is a huge bonus too. There was no knowing lads like Chin, OHanlon, Mogie, Dee etc were going to commit at all either. Lee Chin even said it himself that he wasn't sure until he got talking to Keith. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 11:08:23 2548667 Link
Some writers and pundits believe that waiting 3 weeks is too long before playing your next game. They also say that playing your next game 7 days after your last game is not good . So that puts ourselves and the losers of the Joe mc at opposite time frames. They reckon that 2 weeks gap is just right. So as neither is ideal for both teams it probably makes us even in that regard. Hopefully the 3 week gap will help us to clear up any niggling injuries. I would guess that Dee and Corey Byrne Dunbar will see some gametime next day and if they perform well in that may well start against Clare. That of course is providing that we get over Laois or Offaly. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 364 - 01/06/2024 14:07:14 2548681 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I think we could beat the losers of the Munster Final. Why couldn't we? The targets I was talking about were what were set out for Rossi at the start of his tenure for his 1st year. Last year was a shambles. When interviewing him for the job it would probably have been unreasonable to tell him we expect to win a Leinster final, or League title, in his 1st year beaing in mind where he was starting out from. Qualifying out of Leinster and getting 1a status for the League next year are light years ahead of where we were at last year. Bringing on so many of the younger players is a huge bonus too. There was no knowing lads like Chin, OHanlon, Mogie, Dee etc were going to commit at all either. Lee Chin even said it himself that he wasn't sure until he got talking to Keith." You're setting the bar fairly low I'm afraid if this is what you believe. Why would it have been unreasonable to tell Rossi that we expect to reach/win a Leinster final? The last championship match these lads played was in beating Kilkenny in a very impressive showing in Wexford park last Ma. This is the same Kilkenny side that has reached the last 2 All Ireland finals. Purpleandgold72 (Wexford) - Posts: 225 - 01/06/2024 14:17:35 2548682 Link
Replying To Purpleandgold72: "You're setting the bar fairly low I'm afraid if this is what you believe. Why would it have been unreasonable to tell Rossi that we expect to reach/win a Leinster final? The last championship match these lads played was in beating Kilkenny in a very impressive showing in Wexford park last Ma. This is the same Kilkenny side that has reached the last 2 All Ireland finals." I'm not setting the bar anywhere. It wasn't my decision. I hope we are going to win a Leinster every year. Since 2018 I've believed we can again, which really is the 1st time I've believed that since the early noughties if I'm being honest. But equally I've experienced enough disappointments since the early 90s to be realistic. For us to win a Leinster in any year we need alot of little things to go right for us, the same as any of our opponents. Some of those things a manager can control, team selection, substitutions, tactics, set up, preparation, coaching etc, but others he can't, refereeing, luck, opposition, injuries, the draw etc. While I didn't have anything to do with selecting the manager, I think realistic targets when Rossi was appointed were making 1a and getting out of Leinster, bearing in mind how last year went, and the massive uncertainty over who would even be playing for us this year. Anything else, like winning an AIQF, or more, would be a very welcome bonus. Anyone honestly expecting more than that in September of last year would frankly be delusional. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 14:58:07 2548689 Link
Replying To Purpleandgold72: "You're setting the bar fairly low I'm afraid if this is what you believe. Why would it have been unreasonable to tell Rossi that we expect to reach/win a Leinster final? The last championship match these lads played was in beating Kilkenny in a very impressive showing in Wexford park last Ma. This is the same Kilkenny side that has reached the last 2 All Ireland finals." I'm not setting the bar anywhere. It wasn't my decision. I hope we are going to win a Leinster every year. Since 2018 I've believed we can again, which really is the 1st time I've believed that since the early noughties if I'm being honest. But equally I've experienced enough disappointments since the early 90s to be realistic. For us to win a Leinster in any year we need alot of little things to go right for us, the same as any of our opponents. Some of those things a manager can control, team selection, substitutions, tactics, set up, preparation, coaching etc, but others he can't, refereeing, luck, opposition, injuries, the draw etc. While I didn't have anything to do with selecting the manager, I think realistic targets when Rossi was appointed were making 1a and getting out of Leinster, bearing in mind how last year went, and the massive uncertainty over who would even be playing for us this year. Anything else, like winning an AIQF, or more, would be a very welcome bonus. Anyone honestly expecting more than that in September of last year would frankly be delusional. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 01/06/2024 15:08:36 2548691 Link
Replying To Viking66: "I think we could beat the losers of the Munster Final. Why couldn't we? The targets I was talking about were what were set out for Rossi at the start of his tenure for his 1st year. Last year was a shambles. When interviewing him for the job it would probably have been unreasonable to tell him we expect to win a Leinster final, or League title, in his 1st year beaing in mind where he was starting out from. Qualifying out of Leinster and getting 1a status for the League next year are light years ahead of where we were at last year. Bringing on so many of the younger players is a huge bonus too. There was no knowing lads like Chin, OHanlon, Mogie, Dee etc were going to commit at all either. Lee Chin even said it himself that he wasn't sure until he got talking to Keith." Ah. Set out for Rossi or set out by Rossi. There's a difference WEXILE (Wexford) - Posts: 291 - 01/06/2024 20:54:37 2548756 Link
Replying To WEXILE: "Ah. Set out for Rossi or set out by Rossi. There's a difference" Set out for Rossi Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 02/06/2024 10:46:25 2548823 Link
Will Wexford win an All Ireland at any level soon? Last appearance at senior, minor or U20/21 was 2015 and got battered by Limerick. Watching Offaly last night, would love to see that for Wexford but have no expectations of it happening soon. Hopefully the minors continue their good run this year and the seniors have a right go of it. Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 190 - 02/06/2024 17:20:01 2548930 Link
Replying To Jedobi: "Will Wexford win an All Ireland at any level soon? Last appearance at senior, minor or U20/21 was 2015 and got battered by Limerick. Watching Offaly last night, would love to see that for Wexford but have no expectations of it happening soon. Hopefully the minors continue their good run this year and the seniors have a right go of it." Hopefully! But we have only 1 AI at any level since before I was born. 1968 was the last before that. We haven't even reached many AI finals let alone won them in my lifetime. So we are going to have to change that first. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 12821 - 02/06/2024 19:32:31 2548992 Link