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Replying To daveboy:  "I think this is a very good point. Clare have always had great numbers over the years and considering that population its very impressive. Also taking into account the fact they are a dual county and large portions of west clare serve in effect one senior club.

LRH was talking to some ex clare hurlers since Saturday and the overriding feeling is that clare will need to be full strength come sunday week. There are major doubts I've heard over conor cleary Aidan mccarthy and now John conlon. David mc and o donnells injury should clear up in time.

Just wondering whats your take on this ? Would clare be able to cope without cleary and conlon. I think going forward they can absorb the loss of mccarthy but defensively they could be stretched.

We have our own issues missing finn and hannon so health of the squad and freshness of the panel is always key at this stage."
The absence of a forward won't impact us too much but yea the absence of key defenders would. The news I have is:-

David Mc could have played the last day and would have if it was Kilkenny but they are managing a
Small injury with him and the break would be very beneficial

Conlon is stood down from training until Sunday but is a-ok

Cleary, although not togged was pucking ball before the Dublin game. I didn't see this myself as I am in Portugal but others told me. Again the thinking in Clare is that he will be ok barring a setback

SOD - fine, precautionary exit the last day. If the game was in the melting pot, he may well have stayed on is what I have been told (same with David Mc, he would have started if this was semi but Lohan preferred to give him a break

Aidan Mc - Bit of an unknown. Struggling all season really with a quad injury. I would surgery would be unlikely to start. As said though while we would love to have him fit and firing we have others like Shanager, Reidy, Meehan etc who can come in. Rodger's stepped up on the frees the last day too.

Your never going to have a clear bill of health this year but if Aidan Mc is our only absentee the next day, as much as we would love to have him, I'd be happy enough from a squad perspective

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 11:45:24    2490375

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "Lads maybe I'm the only one, but at the end of the week my disposal income isn't what it was. I have 5 travelling in my household & a match day out especially in Dublin is no joke.
So maybe in some cases individuals have to pick & choose their matches."
its a very expensive hobby no doubt about it so I agree you might well have to pick your matches.

If you were to travel to Dublin tickets/food/petrol ect at least €400 ?? unless you pack a picnic even then very costly

clooney (Clare) - Posts: 997 - 28/06/2023 11:53:06    2490380

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "The absence of a forward won't impact us too much but yea the absence of key defenders would. The news I have is:-

David Mc could have played the last day and would have if it was Kilkenny but they are managing a
Small injury with him and the break would be very beneficial

Conlon is stood down from training until Sunday but is a-ok

Cleary, although not togged was pucking ball before the Dublin game. I didn't see this myself as I am in Portugal but others told me. Again the thinking in Clare is that he will be ok barring a setback

SOD - fine, precautionary exit the last day. If the game was in the melting pot, he may well have stayed on is what I have been told (same with David Mc, he would have started if this was semi but Lohan preferred to give him a break

Aidan Mc - Bit of an unknown. Struggling all season really with a quad injury. I would surgery would be unlikely to start. As said though while we would love to have him fit and firing we have others like Shanager, Reidy, Meehan etc who can come in. Rodger's stepped up on the frees the last day too.

Your never going to have a clear bill of health this year but if Aidan Mc is our only absentee the next day, as much as we would love to have him, I'd be happy enough from a squad perspective"
Is David Fitzgerald injured? Groin?

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 854 - 28/06/2023 12:13:55    2490386

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Your exactly right. You need bandwagon support. In Limerick City in 2008 and 2009 you would not see a young fellas walking around with hurleys in had but rather Rugby Balls as Munster had just won their second Heineken Cup in 2008. The beating we took off Tipperary in 2009 in Croke park and the fall out from that (i.e. the strike etc.) was one of Limericks hurling's lowest points ever.

When the underage programme commenced, those of us going underage matches could start to see the potential by 2012 but it took Limerick winning the Munster Final in 2013 to be the catalyst for explosion in interest after that. I remember talking to a games development officer in July 2013 and he said had been going around the schools and clubs in Limerick trying to get young fellas to pick up hurleys for about 4 years and the effect of one win and the outpouring of emotion had done more for Limerick hurling in a matter of weeks than they ha been able to do in the 4 years previous."
I drove through Southill yesterday on a route I regularly take for work and saw 3 boys, maybe 9, 10 yrs old pucking a ball around.

In all my years taking the same drive I've never seen lads playing hurling.. Absolutely made my day. The interest in hurling is fantastic to see.

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1116 - 28/06/2023 12:25:52    2490391

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Replying To clooney:  "its a very expensive hobby no doubt about it so I agree you might well have to pick your matches.

If you were to travel to Dublin tickets/food/petrol ect at least €400 ?? unless you pack a picnic even then very costly"
There was a time we would stay in Dublin, it really was good value. That day is well gone but as you say up & down on the same day is a costly outlay as well.
Anyway safe travels to all over the coming weeks.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 121 - 28/06/2023 12:27:21    2490392

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Replying To St.Mologga:  "There was a time we would stay in Dublin, it really was good value. That day is well gone but as you say up & down on the same day is a costly outlay as well.
Anyway safe travels to all over the coming weeks."
I actually booked a hotel for Saturday week with the intention of bringing the wife and 2 kids and we would go the Lim / Gal match on Saturday and Clare / Kk on Dublin. Best hotel I could get with a decent location was €270 per room so that's €540. Tickets €120 per game. So before food and drink, it was costing €780!

I am in Portugal at the moment and could not stomach that price straight after coming back. We are going to travel up and down to Clare game on same day now.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 12:34:18    2490397

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I actually booked a hotel for Saturday week with the intention of bringing the wife and 2 kids and we would go the Lim / Gal match on Saturday and Clare / Kk on Dublin. Best hotel I could get with a decent location was €270 per room so that's €540. Tickets €120 per game. So before food and drink, it was costing €780!

I am in Portugal at the moment and could not stomach that price straight after coming back. We are going to travel up and down to Clare game on same day now."
too much information
what did you have for breakfast?

SixtiesKid (Galway) - Posts: 359 - 28/06/2023 13:16:31    2490415

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "I actually booked a hotel for Saturday week with the intention of bringing the wife and 2 kids and we would go the Lim / Gal match on Saturday and Clare / Kk on Dublin. Best hotel I could get with a decent location was €270 per room so that's €540. Tickets €120 per game. So before food and drink, it was costing €780!

I am in Portugal at the moment and could not stomach that price straight after coming back. We are going to travel up and down to Clare game on same day now."
Traveling, eating out, & staying out around Ireland is no joke.
Anyway enjoy your sporting weekend & safe travels to you & yours.

St.Mologga (Cork) - Posts: 121 - 28/06/2023 13:36:05    2490419

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "The absence of a forward won't impact us too much but yea the absence of key defenders would. The news I have is:-

David Mc could have played the last day and would have if it was Kilkenny but they are managing a
Small injury with him and the break would be very beneficial

Conlon is stood down from training until Sunday but is a-ok

Cleary, although not togged was pucking ball before the Dublin game. I didn't see this myself as I am in Portugal but others told me. Again the thinking in Clare is that he will be ok barring a setback

SOD - fine, precautionary exit the last day. If the game was in the melting pot, he may well have stayed on is what I have been told (same with David Mc, he would have started if this was semi but Lohan preferred to give him a break

Aidan Mc - Bit of an unknown. Struggling all season really with a quad injury. I would surgery would be unlikely to start. As said though while we would love to have him fit and firing we have others like Shanager, Reidy, Meehan etc who can come in. Rodger's stepped up on the frees the last day too.

Your never going to have a clear bill of health this year but if Aidan Mc is our only absentee the next day, as much as we would love to have him, I'd be happy enough from a squad perspective"
How will Clare fare v the Cats LRH? I give them a chance of winning the game.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1879 - 28/06/2023 14:27:36    2490431

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Replying To thelongridge:  "How will Clare fare v the Cats LRH? I give them a chance of winning the game."
If they stay on their feet instead of rolling around on the ground you would have to give them every opportunity.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 854 - 28/06/2023 14:46:55    2490436

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Replying To thelongridge:  "How will Clare fare v the Cats LRH? I give them a chance of winning the game."
I'd worry about clares FB line if cleary doesn't start and it looks very unlikely he will from what I saw Saturday. He's nowhere near being back training fully so it's a short turn around. Conlon was knocked out Saturday so hopefully he recovers in time. Bad concussions can take a life of their own and he got a bad one. Those two are key for clare if they've a chance. Kilkenny are coming into this at full strength with Mullen now back training I believe and Michael carey back in the squad. Richie Reid I think is fit too. Clare will be praying they get all their lads right 100% for whatll be a huge battle.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 28/06/2023 15:16:06    2490447

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Replying To SixtiesKid:  "too much information
what did you have for breakfast?"
Ham and cheese baguette. ''Twas lovely

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 15:40:37    2490453

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SOD and McInerny seem to be more precautionary than anything else.. however Conlon, Clearly and McCarthy are more of a worry - all big losses for Clare. We won't know until throw in what Clare team will start thanks to the Ger Loughnane school of management.

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 28/06/2023 15:42:29    2490454

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Replying To thelongridge:  "How will Clare fare v the Cats LRH? I give them a chance of winning the game."
Ah it's hard to know. The wind is still knocked out of my sails after last years Semi.

What I will say though is that we are in a much better place than last year. But a lot will depend on who lines out for Clare which we won't know until 10 minutes before throw in.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 15:44:26    2490456

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Ah it's hard to know. The wind is still knocked out of my sails after last years Semi.

What I will say though is that we are in a much better place than last year. But a lot will depend on who lines out for Clare which we won't know until 10 minutes before throw in."
100%

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 28/06/2023 16:03:39    2490459

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Ham and cheese baguette. ''Twas lovely"
Very continental LRH you must still be over there?!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16638 - 28/06/2023 16:05:27    2490462

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Replying To LimerickandProud:  "Your exactly right. You need bandwagon support. In Limerick City in 2008 and 2009 you would not see a young fellas walking around with hurleys in had but rather Rugby Balls as Munster had just won their second Heineken Cup in 2008. The beating we took off Tipperary in 2009 in Croke park and the fall out from that (i.e. the strike etc.) was one of Limericks hurling's lowest points ever.

When the underage programme commenced, those of us going underage matches could start to see the potential by 2012 but it took Limerick winning the Munster Final in 2013 to be the catalyst for explosion in interest after that. I remember talking to a games development officer in July 2013 and he said had been going around the schools and clubs in Limerick trying to get young fellas to pick up hurleys for about 4 years and the effect of one win and the outpouring of emotion had done more for Limerick hurling in a matter of weeks than they ha been able to do in the 4 years previous."
Yet only 19k at a Munster Semi final v Clare in 2017?

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1445 - 28/06/2023 16:15:20    2490468

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Replying To Viking66:  "Very continental LRH you must still be over there?!"
Sim

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 16:15:54    2490469

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Do you not realise that Dublin have a population of 1.5 million. Dublin hurlers do get very poor support and even when they were going well in the last decade it was the same."
I know that, how could I not! There's a small crew of us and I don't know how to change that. I think football is just swallowed hurling hook line and sinker.
I don't know the answer. Playing numbers are up in Dublin hurling and club success is more common, but it just doesn't transfer to support the county team.
I look at all my old hurling pals and I live in Wexford while others live in Meath, Kildare, etc rather than where they are from, so a lot of the lineage is lost in these clubs. Unfortunately, those who replace people in these areas often have no interest in hurling or GAA in general.
But sure, we live in hope. Maybe a golden generation will come at some stage. I won't hold my breath and the lure and profile of football is just too strong for the top dual players.
That said, I wouldn't change it for the world. Only Dublin will I shout against Wexford these days given I'm in a house full of yellow bellies. :)

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1445 - 28/06/2023 16:21:59    2490471

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yet only 19k at a Munster Semi final v Clare in 2017?"
Not bad considering there was 11k at KK v Galway in Leinster this year. The premier RR game

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 28/06/2023 18:13:17    2490497

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