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Replying To Oldtourman:  "LRH, even Sheehy and other Prominent Tipp Hurling, Nicky English were talking up this Tipp team. Like you, I could not see where all that optimism was coming from. There was an interesting full page Article in yesterdays Irish Examiner. Written by a Tipp man, it posed the question 'Why do everyone Hate Tipp?'. It may be due to the fact that they can gt so cocky, when they have little to be cocky about."
Tipp, like Clare in MF last year, blew it all trying to beat ye. They were flat as a pancake after. What this result also reinforces is how much of a crazy decision it was to let Offaly into AI series.

Tipp have won 1 Munster champ game in 2 years. Says a lot. I just don't think the calibre of players is there at the moment. The current crop can develop for sure, but Tipp have lost too many top players in the last 3 years and the players coming through are not the same w quality but that is not a dig as the players they have lost are generational types.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 25/06/2023 10:02:10    2489020

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Galway need to stop passing the sliothar to opposition. I don't get it.
This is not hurling. 15 on 15 is the way it was designed to be.
Sliothar travels too fast to copy cat football tactics. Nice to get the win and there were positives
galore but the tactics left opposition in the game. Tipp should have been put to sword by 1/2 time.
Massive character shown by Galway which was great to see.
Gaillimh abu

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1237 - 25/06/2023 10:54:13    2489043

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Went yesterday to the Q finals as a neutral and it was honestly a frustrating and disappointing evening. Was really looking forward to both matches. The breeze possibly didn't help. The first 20 mins of Clare v Dublin was 2 teams that were full of nerves. Donal Burke wasn't fit to start you could see it in the warm up. The air went out of the balloon when he hobbled off. The rest of that match was pedestrian bar 10 mins when Clare showed clear weaknesses in front of their Full back line. Dublin allowing the middle to be wide open behind conor Burke was just remarkable for an experienced sideline that o Donoghue has assembled. Clare picked them off at ease. It was a nice match for clare to get. Dublin are not at the level required right now. Clare will be concerned regarding their health leading into kilkenny. I heard Aidan mccarthy could be done for the year. Conor cleary must again be a doubt. Shane o donnell hobbled off. David mc didn't start and John conlon took a nasty looking concussion. He's had a few in last couple of years. Clare will need everyone fit for their semi final. Everyone.

The first half of Tipp v Galway was really disappointing . Both teams pulled a forward out and left Burke and maher free. Galway were better than Tipp at avoiding the free man but still hit some aimless ball on top of maher. Galway should have been out of sight by half time. Tipp were abysmal. Launching long ball down on a dominant Galway defense time and time again. No composure and completely blown out of it physically. I was watching the Tipp warm up before the match and couldn't believe how sloppy it was and at times players didn't know what to do and where they should be going in some drills. It fed its way directly onto the field. I thought Galway defended really well. I thought Gearoid Mc was dominant and Joseph cooney again was powerful. Whelan is some machine and Limerick don't have sean finn this time around so Galway will look to feed him ball. I really like the look of kevin cooney. He's still a bit raw but has the makings of a top drawer 14.

The semi finals are the 4 best teams in the country so no complaints can be made. Clares injury list is worrying and the same could be said of Limerick. Limerick will look to get Cian Lynch firing in 2 weeks and that'll give them a huge dimension to their game. Hannon will be missed but again they'll have a plan to not only replace him but again give Limerick a slightly different look. My take on it is Dan will be 3 Byrnes will stay 5 and Hayes will stay 7. Galway will be planning for Limerick with no real idea who or how Limerick might play which will be different to previous years.

Semi final stage now and it's intriguing. That Leinster final was a far better standard of hurling to the munster final so the munster myth for me was never there. Munster is just hugely competitive but kilkenny and Galway are awesome outfits. They are also relatively fresh. It's gonna be tough for clare and Limerick.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 25/06/2023 10:55:16    2489046

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "LRH, even Sheehy and other Prominent Tipp Hurling, Nicky English were talking up this Tipp team. Like you, I could not see where all that optimism was coming from. There was an interesting full page Article in yesterdays Irish Examiner. Written by a Tipp man, it posed the question 'Why do everyone Hate Tipp?'. It may be due to the fact that they can gt so cocky, when they have little to be cocky about."
Spot on there.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2441 - 25/06/2023 12:48:27    2489064

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Honestly I disagree. Tipps goalie made it close. It was always going to be a close match due to it being Galway vs Tipp but that TIPP GOALIE was awesome."
Really Trump2020. He made some good stops and has a great future but at the moment is a disaster under the dropping ball. Could have and should have conceded two more that Galway failed to finish. Then his saves would not mean a lot. He is young with pin point accuracy on puck outs and will be a name for the future.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3141 - 25/06/2023 13:56:53    2489090

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Tipp very flat but Galway never gave our key forwards the room they needed to get shots off. Bad wides from both teams but Galway had that extra kick in them and were able to get good ball into Whelan. I don't think Tipp were cocky people in Tipp knew this was never going to be an easy game. It never is against Galway. We're dam proud that this group has given us some hope for the future and in about 2 years I'd expect us to be pushing for all irelands again. We'd have taken last 6 stage before a ball was even thrown in. Doesn't matter that our record of wins was poor coming into this but if Limerick go on to win the all ireland again which I'm sure they will it means every other team has not progressed so they can't talk either in terms of form,results and progression which will be static. Looking ahead to what will be two keenly contested semi finals dissapointed to be out but you can't turn up and not perform. Galway won playing badly same if Tipp had come out on the right side. That's not a bad thing either.well done Galway.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 25/06/2023 14:59:26    2489122

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Nice attempt at a wind up. Few of ye from Wexford these days with too much time on your hands"
How did T.Kelly stay on the pitch yesterday?? Pulling and dragging and sly digs off the ball.. I was at the City end yesterday and he was right in front of me.. if he had a Blue shirt on him yesterday he would've seen red before half time

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 25/06/2023 15:03:39    2489124

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Replying To Trump2020:  "Honestly I disagree. Tipps goalie made it close. It was always going to be a close match due to it being Galway vs Tipp but that TIPP GOALIE was awesome."
Really Trump2020. He made some good stops and has a great future but at the moment is a disaster under the dropping ball. Could have and should have conceded two more that Galway failed to finish. Then his saves would not mean a lot. He is young with pin point accuracy on puck outs and will be a name for the future.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3141 - 25/06/2023 15:46:44    2489131

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Tipp very flat but Galway never gave our key forwards the room they needed to get shots off. Bad wides from both teams but Galway had that extra kick in them and were able to get good ball into Whelan. I don't think Tipp were cocky people in Tipp knew this was never going to be an easy game. It never is against Galway. We're dam proud that this group has given us some hope for the future and in about 2 years I'd expect us to be pushing for all irelands again. We'd have taken last 6 stage before a ball was even thrown in. Doesn't matter that our record of wins was poor coming into this but if Limerick go on to win the all ireland again which I'm sure they will it means every other team has not progressed so they can't talk either in terms of form,results and progression which will be static. Looking ahead to what will be two keenly contested semi finals dissapointed to be out but you can't turn up and not perform. Galway won playing badly same if Tipp had come out on the right side. That's not a bad thing either.well done Galway."
Tipp are definitely in transition and a year or two away. Cahill could not come in and stand down at least 4 or 5 who have giving sterling service but are past their best. Next year he will transition a lot more. I look at us more or less the same. Four or five real good young players to add but some big names have to be dropped to do that. Kilkenny for some reason are able to do this easier. I have seen them bringing in a 29 year and it looking like he was always there.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3141 - 25/06/2023 15:58:12    2489136

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Replying To TomWex:  "How did T.Kelly stay on the pitch yesterday?? Pulling and dragging and sly digs off the ball.. I was at the City end yesterday and he was right in front of me.. if he had a Blue shirt on him yesterday he would've seen red before half time"
God it keeps getting better with ye lads

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 25/06/2023 16:12:23    2489141

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Replying To TomWex:  "How did T.Kelly stay on the pitch yesterday?? Pulling and dragging and sly digs off the ball.. I was at the City end yesterday and he was right in front of me.. if he had a Blue shirt on him yesterday he would've seen red before half time"
Imagine what he would have wracked up against Wexford yesterday? Alas thanks to Westmeath we will never know

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 25/06/2023 16:16:02    2489145

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Tipp very flat but Galway never gave our key forwards the room they needed to get shots off. Bad wides from both teams but Galway had that extra kick in them and were able to get good ball into Whelan. I don't think Tipp were cocky people in Tipp knew this was never going to be an easy game. It never is against Galway. We're dam proud that this group has given us some hope for the future and in about 2 years I'd expect us to be pushing for all irelands again. We'd have taken last 6 stage before a ball was even thrown in. Doesn't matter that our record of wins was poor coming into this but if Limerick go on to win the all ireland again which I'm sure they will it means every other team has not progressed so they can't talk either in terms of form,results and progression which will be static. Looking ahead to what will be two keenly contested semi finals dissapointed to be out but you can't turn up and not perform. Galway won playing badly same if Tipp had come out on the right side. That's not a bad thing either.well done Galway."
To start I'm a big Liam Cahill fan. He brings energy and honesty to a group. However could it be said now that questions must be asked regarding his ability to time his team right? We all know what happened Waterford last year. Won the league and then flatlined badly so much so that things didn't end well in the group. This year I went to the league semi final between limerick and tipp and for 50-55 mins tipp were at championship pace. Again this year they started the year well but have played poorly in their last two proper championship matches against waterford and Galway.

daveboy (Limerick) - Posts: 1198 - 25/06/2023 16:18:00    2489147

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "LRH, even Sheehy and other Prominent Tipp Hurling, Nicky English were talking up this Tipp team. Like you, I could not see where all that optimism was coming from. There was an interesting full page Article in yesterdays Irish Examiner. Written by a Tipp man, it posed the question 'Why do everyone Hate Tipp?'. It may be due to the fact that they can gt so cocky, when they have little to be cocky about."
One of the reasons that Tipp struggle for likeability is like Premier28 many are stuck in the past. Tipp have I think 6 AI in 50 years but shape around the place like they have 25.

The "Big 3" as it were is a historical term and is redundant. I can't be arsed running the exercise but I would love to see the spread of winners over the last 30 years. Would there be a "big 3" based on this? Hardly.

Lads like Premier28 on here giving it large to Limerick lads and ranting about the 50s and 60s (when he / she was probably not even alive") is laughable stuff. I'd much rather have 5 All Irelands in the last 10 years then 6 in the last 50

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 25/06/2023 16:29:34    2489152

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Replying To TomWex:  "How did T.Kelly stay on the pitch yesterday?? Pulling and dragging and sly digs off the ball.. I was at the City end yesterday and he was right in front of me.. if he had a Blue shirt on him yesterday he would've seen red before half time"
And nobody dragged out of him or hit him sly digs off the ball?

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2441 - 25/06/2023 16:49:19    2489157

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "One of the reasons that Tipp struggle for likeability is like Premier28 many are stuck in the past. Tipp have I think 6 AI in 50 years but shape around the place like they have 25.

The "Big 3" as it were is a historical term and is redundant. I can't be arsed running the exercise but I would love to see the spread of winners over the last 30 years. Would there be a "big 3" based on this? Hardly.

Lads like Premier28 on here giving it large to Limerick lads and ranting about the 50s and 60s (when he / she was probably not even alive") is laughable stuff. I'd much rather have 5 All Irelands in the last 10 years then 6 in the last 50"
I agree, LRH. The Big 3 is no longer relevant and, like Premier 28, shouldn't be taken seriously. Cork may be on the way back, KK will almost always be thereabouts, Tipp could be serious contenders in a few years, but all of them are trailing behind Limerick. With the amount of quality young players coming through, I think your own county could become the next major force whenever this great Limerick team is no longer dominant.

midlands (Westmeath) - Posts: 619 - 25/06/2023 17:03:00    2489168

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Imagine what he would have wracked up against Wexford yesterday? Alas thanks to Westmeath we will never know"
To half borrow a phrase from John Mullane ' I loves me hurling' I'm on the road every weekend to as many hurling matches as I can.. unfortunately Wexford aren't at the races at the moment but I'll go whoever is playing. But I've noticed over the last while that TK gets away with a lot.. combined with diving and constant crying to referees make him unlikeable in my eyes. Where as John Conlon, Sheana Morey, Aiden McCarthy are superb hurlers that I could watch all day... always give 100%. Tough but fair

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 25/06/2023 17:06:54    2489170

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Replying To Bon:  "And nobody dragged out of him or hit him sly digs off the ball?"
There was no Dubs at it yesterday.

TomWex (Wexford) - Posts: 85 - 25/06/2023 17:08:12    2489171

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "One of the reasons that Tipp struggle for likeability is like Premier28 many are stuck in the past. Tipp have I think 6 AI in 50 years but shape around the place like they have 25.

The "Big 3" as it were is a historical term and is redundant. I can't be arsed running the exercise but I would love to see the spread of winners over the last 30 years. Would there be a "big 3" based on this? Hardly.

Lads like Premier28 on here giving it large to Limerick lads and ranting about the 50s and 60s (when he / she was probably not even alive") is laughable stuff. I'd much rather have 5 All Irelands in the last 10 years then 6 in the last 50"
Spot on LRH.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16582 - 25/06/2023 17:32:36    2489189

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Imagine what he would have wracked up against Wexford yesterday? Alas thanks to Westmeath we will never know"
Thank god they got relegated. We just have to get the Dubs and Galway relegated now and we might get out of Leinster again!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16582 - 25/06/2023 17:33:49    2489192

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Replying To Viking66:  "Thank god they got relegated. We just have to get the Dubs and Galway relegated now and we might get out of Leinster again!"
Lol fair play Viking. A great contributor here

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 25/06/2023 18:12:48    2489206

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