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I'd agree with you Mick. Nobody expects all senior clubs to be full of intercounty standard players. That's not the case in any county. Some senior clubs might have nobody on the county panel. As you said, all reasonably sized football counties have 12 to 16 senior clubs. 12 would still be fewer than counties like Mayo, Kildare, Meath, Tyrone, Galway and Dublin, but would bring a better balance to the overall structure. It would give club teams a fairer shot at a county championship, by reducing the pool of the divisional teams. WanPintWin (Galway) - Posts: 2142 - 29/02/2024 19:15:39 2528975 Link 0 |
Yes indeed WanpintWin
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3839 - 29/02/2024 20:28:07 2528978 Link 0 |
I think the one thing people are forgetting here is population, the amount of Kerry clubs who's second teams have all but gone extinct, first teams struggling, you had urban league for every clubs second string every Friday night from April /May to August then junior champs (for clubs second string). TheDude23 (Roscommon) - Posts: 10 - 02/03/2024 01:13:08 2529158 Link 0 |
Mick please name the four club teams you would promote to the senior ranks. No beating around the bush on this, just four and no maybes. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 02/03/2024 16:54:03 2529246 Link 0 |
The top 4 intermediate teams obviously.The likes of O Rahillys and Stacks in they in top 4 of intermediate section.Anyway it does nt matter what I say as you dont agree anyway with 12 senior teams
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3839 - 03/03/2024 11:01:14 2529388 Link 0 |
I have not problem with twelve clubs having teams in the county championship provided all teams are of senior calibre. Stacks and Stand Road have regressed just as Mitchells did. Neither have a good under-age structure in place in spite of the fact that there are approx. 1,200 under-age in Trealee. Stacks part of an amalgamated division team made no impact this year. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 03/03/2024 13:15:42 2529413 Link 0 |
I think that the divisional teams work well in Cork and Kerry. Would David Clifford for example, ever play top level club football otherwise? It exposes good talent to higher quality stuff and this in turn helps the county teams. However, it does seem a tad lopsided when players from the likes of Austin Stacks can be part of a divisional team. These big clubs who can yo-yo their way between senior and intermediate from year to year, could they be banned from forwarding players to a divisional side? For example, a relegated senior club must be in the inter grade for at least 2-3 seasons before its players can join a divisional side! foreveryoung (USA) - Posts: 2067 - 03/03/2024 14:02:29 2529418 Link 0 |
By your logic if a couple of the current Kerry senior clubs lose their way and fail to reach what you call "senior calibre" then maybe Kerry should reduce to 6 senior clubs. There are many weaker counties whose senior club champions would not win the Kerry intermediate championship. If a county has no club of your "senior calibre" maybe they should have no senior club championship at all.
sligo joe (Dublin) - Posts: 775 - 03/03/2024 14:27:47 2529423 Link 0 |
Why are Strand Road in the top 4 Intermediate sides? What are you basing that on? As for Stacks. If they're "top good" for Intermediate why didn't they win it last year? oneoff (UK) - Posts: 1462 - 03/03/2024 14:43:38 2529424 Link 0 |
You are penalising players for being relegated there, you want to expose as many good players to senior as you can. Stacks are a big club but are where they are because they were not good enough to stay up and didn't get back up either, there's a difference between big club & good team.
TheDude23 (Roscommon) - Posts: 10 - 03/03/2024 16:27:46 2529452 Link 0 |
By having teams in the senior county championship who do not qualify by their standing in the county league creates two problems. 1. You now have eight teams who qualified by their finish in the league and four who failed the litmus test. Now you have diluted the standard of the county championship and subjected patrons to sub-standard senior quality games. 2. You have reduced the standard of the divisional teams who will still comprise four of the teams. Shannon Rangers and Feale Rangers will probably have to stay and who else? East Kerry and Mid Kerry. Now you have eliminated four divisional teams and where will the high quality players (county players) go? Having twelve teams in Kerry for the sake of having twelve teams does not seem productive. Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 03/03/2024 21:33:25 2529580 Link 0 |
Im just giving an example.Im not saying Rahillys should be senior but if are in the top 12 then yes.
CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3839 - 04/03/2024 15:58:27 2529761 Link 0 |
Will not happen with whatever amount of teams are in the senior county championship as promotion and relegation are in place, Eight, the present number, remains at eight and I'm sure that if the number is increased to twelve (to appease those that think the intermediate div., and divisional teams, are too strong) promotion and relegation will still be in place.
Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 05/03/2024 19:45:29 2530000 Link 0 |
May well have been asked on here already, but new to HS. Can't fathom how everywhere I go I meet a Kerry man spouting CLIFFORD is the Goat. What an insult to the gooch or Maurice fitz for example in your own county not to mention countless others in various other counties, d.connolly, Peter canavan etc. Potential to become the best no doubt but surely too early in his career to throw said tag about. What's the opinion in the kingdom? Genuinely curious Gaeldownunder (Tyrone) - Posts: 1 - 17/04/2024 14:48:10 2538630 Link 0 |
Not his fault media play it enough and understandable if kingdom folk say he is or not. Neutral its too early but he has potential to be he is defo one of the greatest anyway Gaaforlife2023 (Longford) - Posts: 391 - 17/04/2024 14:55:37 2538632 Link 0 |
As a Kerryman I dont like calling anyone the goat as the game has changes and times change.Players are fitter now than years ago.What I will say though is David Clifford is an exceptional talent and he is playing in an era imo thats harder now for forwards.Years ago it was man on man.Nowadays there are blanket defenses and David is nearly always double marked.He is a brilliant fielder ,can take on his man,is very strong and can score from near or far. CiarraiMick (Dublin) - Posts: 3839 - 17/04/2024 23:31:35 2538746 Link 0 |
It sounds like it's the one Kerryman you meet where you go. Coming from a county a lot close to Kerry than Tyrone is I come across a good number of Kerrmen and women too to be fair (: :) I don't think any of them except maybe a few teenagers have elevated DC to the very top of the list of greatest even from their own county. Obviously he is in the mix and his skills are amazing but he is still hopefully in the early days of his career Westfester (Limerick) - Posts: 973 - 19/04/2024 15:41:29 2539071 Link 2 |
Looking forward to going down to kilarney and seeing the greatest forward in modern times playing. Be nice to see some of the kerry players too! MalsBalls (Monaghan) - Posts: 197 - 16/05/2024 10:57:02 2545061 Link 5 |
Kerry priming at the right time. With down a few players and older players past their peal should be the kerry men lifting Sam Maguire. Tom O'Sullivan best defender in game scoring a couple points every game. LimerickForLiam24 (Limerick) - Posts: 122 - 28/06/2024 15:49:12 2555423 Link 0 |
I disagree with the Post. He concentrates more on going forward and scoring than on his defensive duties. Louth with more accurate forwards could have three goals. Murphy is the best defender.
Gaa Fan (USA) - Posts: 760 - 28/06/2024 18:12:47 2555450 Link 0 |