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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To Viking66:  "Spot on. Traditional style only worked when we had Rackard and then Doran."
Viking I don't think any team has the players to play the traditional game. To me it is not about playing the long ball that will work sometimes or playing it through the lines all the time. It is about delivering the ball accurately and fast giving your man a half step on his opponent and that bit of space to shoot successfully. I marvelled at Philly Grimes running towards goal catching the ball delivered by Seamus Power behind his back.You won't see that skill in our team or any other team today.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 3116 - 08/05/2023 16:47:10    2476802

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Mad thing is it wasn't some upstart trying to make a name for himself, Alan Corcoran is News editor for the radio station."
Just listened to the "interview" online. I think even Storey found it uncomfortable after a few minutes as Corcoran was on a click bait run. Corcoran who likes to present himself as a great hurling man is leading the charge of negativity at the moment. Surely we get behind the team for the tow last games and hold the post mortem then!

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 08/05/2023 16:51:30    2476803

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Replying To Tox73:  "Yep that miss from Carty was terrible ,every bit as bad as McGoverns numerous efforts. Talking about a possible change in management which I agree with , We do need a Wexford man in charge but they are not many possibilities. Rossiter hasn't been great at U20 level, lost last year to KK , with a team we won the Leinster minor championship 3 years previously. This year we still haven't got our best team on the field. Lose to KK on Wednesday will be the last straw so I wouldn't be rushing to bring in Rossiter, we have to stop rewarding mediocrity, same as minor hurling management, we were terrible last year and Laois beat us in the end, this year we lost semi final to KK. They not exactly tearing it up either so would be reluctant for these guys. Oulart has a large contingent involved at County level? Haven't heard anything from JJ Doyle or what is his roll within Wexford GAA? Likewise what is Harris role and have they achieved anything in last 2 years? County Board needs to be held accountable, they picked these people in such important jobs. CB will block you on twitter if you ask a question."
this years minor team was JJ Doyles in everthing but name

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 08/05/2023 16:52:10    2476804

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "this years minor team was JJ Doyles in everthing but name"
How did the "son" get on after?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/05/2023 16:58:43    2476809

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes"
There a good lad gone in there in the last year or two, one of my mates knows him. I be surprised if he didn't try and promote hurling, he was good hurler himself and was involved in under age training a lot.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1149 - 08/05/2023 16:58:49    2476810

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Replying To Canuck:  "Viking I don't think any team has the players to play the traditional game. To me it is not about playing the long ball that will work sometimes or playing it through the lines all the time. It is about delivering the ball accurately and fast giving your man a half step on his opponent and that bit of space to shoot successfully. I marvelled at Philly Grimes running towards goal catching the ball delivered by Seamus Power behind his back.You won't see that skill in our team or any other team today."
Adrian Fenlon made our team that way. Never really been replaced tbh.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:08:35    2476816

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Replying To Tox73:  "Yep that miss from Carty was terrible ,every bit as bad as McGoverns numerous efforts. Talking about a possible change in management which I agree with , We do need a Wexford man in charge but they are not many possibilities. Rossiter hasn't been great at U20 level, lost last year to KK , with a team we won the Leinster minor championship 3 years previously. This year we still haven't got our best team on the field. Lose to KK on Wednesday will be the last straw so I wouldn't be rushing to bring in Rossiter, we have to stop rewarding mediocrity, same as minor hurling management, we were terrible last year and Laois beat us in the end, this year we lost semi final to KK. They not exactly tearing it up either so would be reluctant for these guys. Oulart has a large contingent involved at County level? Haven't heard anything from JJ Doyle or what is his roll within Wexford GAA? Likewise what is Harris role and have they achieved anything in last 2 years? County Board needs to be held accountable, they picked these people in such important jobs. CB will block you on twitter if you ask a question."
As per a recent workshop promotion

JJ Doyle….Talent Development Lead
Niall Williams…..Director of Hurling
Ray Harris…. Games Manager

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 08/05/2023 17:13:38    2476819

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "A lot of child psychology etc which while important not enough done on actually teaching the kids how to perfect the various skills, correct issues…. I played the game so at least knew the basics but there's also correct and incorrect ways of coaching skills. Ended up researching the main skills myself and the correct way to teach them"
I'm only a mentor and fortunately we have a very good man managing our u12s. Played county minor and u21 and spends hours looking at new drills, thinking up new drills and tries to make training interesting for what is a decent bunch of u12s we have. We are also blessed to have a great mentor who does all the administration and liaising with parents and coiste na nog, she books the astro and pitches also, and a current player who comes in when he has the time. Really the most useless fella that's there is me! A few of the other current players have said they would drop in for a session or 2 also, who have underage and Senior intercounty experience and Fitzgibbon experience also. Hopefully they will be able to pass on little tricks and training tips that we can't. But we are having to sort all this out in our own time. Other clubs we have played over the last couple of years haven't been as lucky. Many are amalgamations even.
What's frustrating from a dual standpoint is that nearly none of the lads have the same interest in football.
What's really frustrating is that over the last couple of years we have had no real support or help from the County with coaching etc. If it wasn't for the manager driving things on the good bunch of players we have would be falling back as regards skills, speed of hurling, etc.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:21:52    2476822

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Just listened to the "interview" online. I think even Storey found it uncomfortable after a few minutes as Corcoran was on a click bait run. Corcoran who likes to present himself as a great hurling man is leading the charge of negativity at the moment. Surely we get behind the team for the tow last games and hold the post mortem then!"
I can't post what I think of him. He's never had a good word to say about the Senior team as far as I can remember, and at the same time never comes up with any reasonable solutions to the problems, real and imagined, that he presents.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:23:52    2476823

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "How did the "son" get on after?"
: D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:24:14    2476825

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "How did the "son" get on after?"
from a birds eye view of this years minor setup and the development squads over the last few years, it is easy to understand why we have won only one leinster minor hurling title since 1985, we have the talent and numbers in this great county but we lack the professional plan at the highest level,
Wexford abu

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 08/05/2023 17:25:00    2476826

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Few things on these,2009-2012 was probably the bleakest most of us remember Wexford hurling, this coinsided with Dublin's peak time under Dalo 2009-14 so they were very much a level ahead during that time. every contest from 2018 onwards has been decided by 2 points or less, not point mincing our words we've thrown away the 2 most recent meetings."
totally agree

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 08/05/2023 17:26:52    2476829

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Replying To hunting:  "There a good lad gone in there in the last year or two, one of my mates knows him. I be surprised if he didn't try and promote hurling, he was good hurler himself and was involved in under age training a lot."
We are lucky insofar as we have a few good lads involved with the club. If we were relying on enthusiastic amateurs like me we would be ####ed! Current manager is a Tipp man and no half hearted measures with him fair play to him! The current team is backboned by the team who won Premier u14s in both codes and reached the Premier u16 finals in both codes. All 4 games against the Martins as far as I remember. A good few of the lads played intercounty underage in hurling and football. I'm amazed Jack Dunne has never come into the Senior goalkeeper conversation for example. Excellent shotstopper and accurate with puckouts short and long. Hopefully they can achieve their stated goal of making it to Senior. Haven't been that in hurling since the early 50s!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:31:05    2476833

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Replying To hunting:  "There a good lad gone in there in the last year or two, one of my mates knows him. I be surprised if he didn't try and promote hurling, he was good hurler himself and was involved in under age training a lot."
We are lucky insofar as we have a few good lads involved with the club. If we were relying on enthusiastic amateurs like me we would be ####ed! Current manager is a Tipp man and no half hearted measures with him fair play to him! The current team is backboned by the team who won Premier u14s in both codes and reached the Premier u16 finals in both codes. All 4 games against the Martins as far as I remember. A good few of the lads played intercounty underage in hurling and football. I'm amazed Jack Dunne has never come into the Senior goalkeeper conversation for example. Excellent shotstopper and accurate with puckouts short and long. Hopefully they can achieve their stated goal of making it to Senior. Haven't been that in hurling since the early 50s!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 17:31:36    2476835

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Replying To tonydoranfan:  "from a birds eye view of this years minor setup and the development squads over the last few years, it is easy to understand why we have won only one leinster minor hurling title since 1985, we have the talent and numbers in this great county but we lack the professional plan at the highest level,
Wexford abu"
Why did you lie about your son being on the minor panel?

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 08/05/2023 17:59:16    2476841

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Well done to Conor Devitt on getting on to the GAA Hurling TOTW

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 18:35:33    2476854

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "How did the "son" get on after?"
hurling wise you could say good ,played all 4 games but on a personal level very stressfull on a 17 year olds mind and body, I dont think he found the whole experiance positive

tonydoranfan (Wexford) - Posts: 550 - 08/05/2023 18:43:36    2476855

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "As per a recent workshop promotion

JJ Doyle….Talent Development Lead
Niall Williams…..Director of Hurling
Ray Harris…. Games Manager"
What's Nial Williams background? Don't know much about him. He has the biggest job in Wexford hurling, just hope he can do something.

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 08/05/2023 18:52:26    2476858

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https://m.independent.ie/regionals/wexford/sport/gaa/tom-dempsey-wexford-hurlers-in-last-chance-saloon-after-disappointing-defeat-against-dubs/a1312041107.html
A more positive look from Tom Dempsey.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16372 - 08/05/2023 19:17:39    2476863

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Replying To Viking66:  "We are lucky insofar as we have a few good lads involved with the club. If we were relying on enthusiastic amateurs like me we would be ####ed! Current manager is a Tipp man and no half hearted measures with him fair play to him! The current team is backboned by the team who won Premier u14s in both codes and reached the Premier u16 finals in both codes. All 4 games against the Martins as far as I remember. A good few of the lads played intercounty underage in hurling and football. I'm amazed Jack Dunne has never come into the Senior goalkeeper conversation for example. Excellent shotstopper and accurate with puckouts short and long. Hopefully they can achieve their stated goal of making it to Senior. Haven't been that in hurling since the early 50s!"
Sorry I meant Into the school(as teacher) not the club. Ye done well last year and good chance to build on it this year in the hurling.

hunting (Wexford) - Posts: 1149 - 08/05/2023 19:48:57    2476871

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