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Replying To Viking66:  "Would Dunbar be operating out around the middle in that selection? I agree 100% about Conor Foley. Think Chins ball winning is too important in the HF line so I'd have Ritchie Lawlor in midfield.
I'd start Carty instead of Devitt, Carty did well against Westmeath, Cork and particularly Limerick in the League and would contribute more in an attacking sense both scoring points and linking play between the backs and forwards as well as keeping his man quiet on the scoreboard, and maybe bring on Kevin Foley instead of Dee early in the 2nd half.
So starting-
Lawlor
S Reck, Jippo, Donohue
Carty, D Reck, O Hanlon
O Keefe
Lawlor, Dunbar
Jacko, Chin, O Foley
Rory, Mogie
With subs Cian Byrne(gk), K Foley, Mac, Dwyer, Devitt, Hearne, Mcguckin, Joe OC, Clarke, N Murphy, Higgins.
Thats 2 new championship starters since last year in Carty and Richie Lawlor. 3 if you include James Lawlor. A much stronger bench than last year with cover for every line. All the lads on that bench have at least some, and a lot of in some cases, recent senior intercounty experience too."
Yes Dunbar roaming around the middle third/Half forward line leaving space for Mogie and ROC. I would start Carty if he had game time against Antrim. It would be a huge risk to start both D Reck and Carty who havent played any games in 6-8 weeks. I forgot to list Kevin Foley as an option off the bench too. I expect very little changes and probably only Reck into the team if he is fit. We do have a stronger panel than last year Mac, R lawlor , Dwyer, Hearne and K Foley are all well capable of hurling at this level

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 03/05/2023 09:56:15    2475320

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Replying To Viking66:  "We only need a couple of very good players every year to come through. Also we had 2 Leinster u21 winning teams in the early noughties, 1 of which lost the AI U21 final by just a point, as well as the 3 in a row Leinster u21 teams in the early teens."
Much rather see teams winning, winning breeds winners. One u-21/20 All Ireland to show. Three minor titles in the 60's to show. Not being negative/critical, pointing out a glaring fact.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 823 - 03/05/2023 10:03:54    2475325

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Replying To countyman2022:  "What conveyor belt is that or when was it ever going? One minor title in 38 years."
In 2018 the u21s were beaten by a last second goal at the end of extra time in the Leinster final also to lose by a point after being 2 points up.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 03/05/2023 10:13:12    2475328

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Hard luck to minors. A brilliant effort in the second half considering the blow of the goal before HT. Probably the winning of it for them. When we got back to one I just felt we didn't capitalize as much as we should have. Maybe that's were having been brought up playing for a successful school team such as Kieran's, compared to playing for our schools who are struggling being honest. Schools have to be looked at and try do something to improve our results. Especially Peters who haven't really done much over the last few years. Winning breeds believe and we need to start winning again at underage. However, going unbeaten in the RR and pushing Kilkenny close is not the worse. Something to work with at least.

Much of this team underage next year?"
Peter's hammered by Kieran's in senior Leinster league final conceding 8 goals and Kieran's with only a few of the team that won the All Ireland playing.

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 03/05/2023 10:22:41    2475332

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Replying To Viking66:  "Would Dunbar be operating out around the middle in that selection? I agree 100% about Conor Foley. Think Chins ball winning is too important in the HF line so I'd have Ritchie Lawlor in midfield.
I'd start Carty instead of Devitt, Carty did well against Westmeath, Cork and particularly Limerick in the League and would contribute more in an attacking sense both scoring points and linking play between the backs and forwards as well as keeping his man quiet on the scoreboard, and maybe bring on Kevin Foley instead of Dee early in the 2nd half.
So starting-
Lawlor
S Reck, Jippo, Donohue
Carty, D Reck, O Hanlon
O Keefe
Lawlor, Dunbar
Jacko, Chin, O Foley
Rory, Mogie
With subs Cian Byrne(gk), K Foley, Mac, Dwyer, Devitt, Hearne, Mcguckin, Joe OC, Clarke, N Murphy, Higgins.
Thats 2 new championship starters since last year in Carty and Richie Lawlor. 3 if you include James Lawlor. A much stronger bench than last year with cover for every line. All the lads on that bench have at least some, and a lot of in some cases, recent senior intercounty experience too."
Would be a big ask for Carty to come in for his championship debut? after being out injured recently. Didn't even come on as a sub v Antrim so I'd say Devitt will hold his spot for now. McGovern was much better when he came out to midfield against Antrim so I'd say that's where he will start this weekend. Ideally swap Dunbar into the forward line, given time and space he's very capable. Showed nice feet for his goal at weekend, not sure Dublin full back line will be as loose mind, he's generally very accurate too from close in or distance. Struggles to win his own ball though.

Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 427 - 03/05/2023 11:24:40    2475355

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Would be a big ask for Carty to come in for his championship debut? after being out injured recently. Didn't even come on as a sub v Antrim so I'd say Devitt will hold his spot for now. McGovern was much better when he came out to midfield against Antrim so I'd say that's where he will start this weekend. Ideally swap Dunbar into the forward line, given time and space he's very capable. Showed nice feet for his goal at weekend, not sure Dublin full back line will be as loose mind, he's generally very accurate too from close in or distance. Struggles to win his own ball though."
True too although he's training fully since last week I think. I just think he offers more at wingback than our other options.
Mogie is very good in any of the front 8 positions, I think he's still one of our best 6 players along with D Reck, ROC, MOH, Chin and Jippo, but maybe hasn't the legs for 70 minutes at midfield.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 03/05/2023 12:24:41    2475376

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Replying To wexfordwin:  "Alot of us based in Dublin will obviously be at the game and I would have expected that there would be a large number of families attending. If we happen to win three games and return for a Leinster final there will be 45,000 plus there.

From watching the online games at the weekend, the minors seemed to have strong backs and they defended well for the most part while the forwards of the 20s looked sharp and dangerous."
Yeah from what I've seen seems to be the case too, looks to be a few good prospects in the forward line for the u20s while the best performers for the u17s in the 3 games I seen were mainly backs and midfielders.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 03/05/2023 13:01:56    2475385

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Yeah from what I've seen seems to be the case too, looks to be a few good prospects in the forward line for the u20s while the best performers for the u17s in the 3 games I seen were mainly backs and midfielders."
Thought the u20 backs have generally been very good. We haven't shipped any big scores. Dundon, Whelan, Foley, Carley, Murphy all have looked good in the games I have seen. Kehoe too.
Carley and Byrne Dunbar probably the pick of them all. If Cillian Byrne can bulk up without losing his speed he could end up the pick of the lot for Senior though!

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 03/05/2023 21:30:14    2475540

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Listening to Micheal Verney on Our Game this morning he said Liam Ryan is fit to play but Reck is still a doubt

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/05/2023 10:06:52    2475576

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Listening to Micheal Verney on Our Game this morning he said Liam Ryan is fit to play but Reck is still a doubt"
We won't know the picture til we see the warm in reality, every senior and u20 championship game so far has been at least 1 change to the 15 named,

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/05/2023 11:09:47    2475605

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "Peter's hammered by Kieran's in senior Leinster league final conceding 8 goals and Kieran's with only a few of the team that won the All Ireland playing."
No one cares about college competitions once the All Ireland is over.

hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 04/05/2023 11:51:33    2475624

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Replying To Viking66:  "Thought the u20 backs have generally been very good. We haven't shipped any big scores. Dundon, Whelan, Foley, Carley, Murphy all have looked good in the games I have seen. Kehoe too.
Carley and Byrne Dunbar probably the pick of them all. If Cillian Byrne can bulk up without losing his speed he could end up the pick of the lot for Senior though!"
Yeah few of the back have played well just taught the goals conceded last week were of the soft variety.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/05/2023 12:16:06    2475634

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Yeah few of the back have played well just taught the goals conceded last week were of the soft variety."
Carley didn't play in the backs, Murphy was replaced by Shokman who looked poor, Foley was playing for the Seniors, and Dundon and Whelan were only back from injury. Yes the goals conceded the last 2 days were poor enough.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 04/05/2023 12:52:48    2475646

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "No one cares about college competitions once the All Ireland is over."
Yes, I heard that too. But even so, it is not a good look for hurling in the county. These lads are surely training with their clubs and that and getting such a beating is not a good vista.

ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1379 - 04/05/2023 14:33:22    2475689

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Replying To hurlorhurley:  "No one cares about college competitions once the All Ireland is over."
The Kieran's boys mustn't have read that memo!

HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 04/05/2023 14:54:21    2475700

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Yes, I heard that too. But even so, it is not a good look for hurling in the county. These lads are surely training with their clubs and that and getting such a beating is not a good vista."
Peters have coaching problems

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 04/05/2023 14:58:56    2475702

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What are the permutations if Wexford win on Saturday? Is it beat Kilkenny then Leinster Final?

StoreysTash (Wexford) - Posts: 1874 - 04/05/2023 15:55:08    2475725

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Replying To StoreysTash:  "What are the permutations if Wexford win on Saturday? Is it beat Kilkenny then Leinster Final?"
Pretty much unless we slip up again against Westmeath, or Antrim or Dublin pull a rabbit out of the bag against Kilkenny or Galway it might change things, think Belfast could be banana skin for Kilkenny on Sunday but I still expect them to have enough.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/05/2023 16:19:19    2475738

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Pretty much unless we slip up again against Westmeath, or Antrim or Dublin pull a rabbit out of the bag against Kilkenny or Galway it might change things, think Belfast could be banana skin for Kilkenny on Sunday but I still expect them to have enough."
Saturday really is a huge game for us. A win would give us momemtum and confidence going into the Westmeath and Kilkenny games. We would be virtually in the All Ireland Series and be raring to take Kilkenny on for a place in the Leinster final. Losing would be a massive blow and would have to somehow pick ourselves up for our final 2 games to qualify in 3rd

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 04/05/2023 16:55:27    2475750

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Replying To Afinestick:  "Saturday really is a huge game for us. A win would give us momemtum and confidence going into the Westmeath and Kilkenny games. We would be virtually in the All Ireland Series and be raring to take Kilkenny on for a place in the Leinster final. Losing would be a massive blow and would have to somehow pick ourselves up for our final 2 games to qualify in 3rd"
Absolutely, season defining game for both teams.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 04/05/2023 17:17:34    2475754

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