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Wexford Intercounty Hurling 2023

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Replying To HurlingBuzz:  "He gave a free to Antrim in the first half when one of their players misfit a line ball. Wexford player goes and plays the ball. Did I miss something. Was on opposite side of pitch but everyone were scratching their heads wondering what was going on"
Happened right in front of me. Dunbar was well within his rights to play that ball.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 01/05/2023 11:05:31    2474875

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Replying To Dheen:  "We had a good team this year, the majority of our lads are underage next year, I think 10 of the starting team.
I thought Wexford looked very good as well, I genuinely think ye will make the Leinster Final at the least! Best of luck going forward."
Thanks Dheen

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 01/05/2023 11:05:55    2474877

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The minors went down fighting, cannot fault the individual effort of the boys out there. However you have to ask is there anyone in the coaching setup that know anything about how the modern game of hurling is played. Our backs were mopping up ball after ball and even when there was overlaps, sending it down high into the Kilkenny half back line or on a number of times to a lose Kilkenny player. In fairness to Kilkenny they created the goal chances which they didn't get, we had a couple opportunities but poor execution of the pass let us down and we didn't get as far as getting a shot off. Better team won, the looked more cohesive and better coached than our lads.

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2013 - 01/05/2023 15:44:34    2474915

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Kilkenny obviously hit a lot more wides than us but I still think we could have beaten them if they had have been more accurate had we worked the ball out of the backs a lot better than we did and had we won a lot more dirty ball.

Their half-back line cleaned our half-forward line out in the first-half off our own puck-out, it's impossible to gain a foothold in a game if you can't win primary possession in attack.

Doesn't help that with us struggling to work the ball out, the ball going in was absolutely terrible. Kilkenny worked the ball a lot better than us and pretty much tried to send every ball into Brian Moore in the corner (Who skinned us every time). If you have time and space on the ball but then put a 50/50 ball into the forwards, that ball will come back to you as quickly as it went in.

ElGranSenor (Wexford) - Posts: 574 - 01/05/2023 15:48:26    2474916

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Hard luck to minors. A brilliant effort in the second half considering the blow of the goal before HT. Probably the winning of it for them. When we got back to one I just felt we didn't capitalize as much as we should have. Maybe that's were having been brought up playing for a successful school team such as Kieran's, compared to playing for our schools who are struggling being honest. Schools have to be looked at and try do something to improve our results. Especially Peters who haven't really done much over the last few years. Winning breeds believe and we need to start winning again at underage. However, going unbeaten in the RR and pushing Kilkenny close is not the worse. Something to work with at least.

Much of this team underage next year?

Finchfurlong996 (Wexford) - Posts: 255 - 01/05/2023 16:04:07    2474918

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Hard luck to the minors. was a good game.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 01/05/2023 18:49:44    2474929

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Replying To Tiger1:  "Listening to radio 1 today and all the talk was of the galwY kk game being a rehearsal for the leinster final no team gave away too much they said.Dublin a d Wexford to fight it out for third but both well behind Kk and Galway.Dont know whete they get their opinions from."
Surely given Dublin and wexfords performances so far, that is an opinion the vast majority would agree with? Both teams have a lot to prove before people would think that they pose a challenge to KK and Galway

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 02/05/2023 06:50:03    2474943

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Replying To ExiledInWex:  "Saw neither match at wedding Friday and yesterday on way home but all roads lead to Croke Park this weekend and winner takes all clash.
I am not a psychologist but for me some people have toxic positivity which is just as dangerous as toxic negativity. A poster who arrives like mushrooms after rain when Wexford lose is no use to anybody, but if they constantly ask "where is the game plan" for example, that is a fair question no? This isn't u10 or u12 this is the elite level of our games and while not professional it is all but.
Its one thing talking about general team issues and style of play, calling out individuals is not fair in an amateur game.
Just my tuppence and apart from Saturday, I'll be shouting for you every day out.
One thing I will say, I stooped at Limerick Clare and Wexford support although a bandwagon are a world away from those savages, moaners and boo brigades."
Wow calling Clare and Limerick fans savages? Every
County has their pick of trouble makers especially when there is a band wagon but calling us savages is very poor taste.

This is a local derby, in the Munster Championship. Munster championship is a pressure cooker environment where you cannot afford to lose a game unlike Leinster. That along brings a tension to the supporters but to suggest we are savages is poor form.

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2697 - 02/05/2023 06:53:42    2474944

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I was delighted with the performance on Saturday to be honest. The lads played very well and looked to be more of a cut and championship energy off them.
I think it was the perfect result. It shows the lads they are well capable of putting up a big score and putting teams to the sword but also leaves them with enough to work on so they won't be over confident next weekend.
I'm reading the negative posts here and i'm wondering were the people posting actually at the match? We scored 1-25 from play and probably could have scored 3-33. When was the last time that happened? It was a big step up on the Galway game and hopefully it is a stepping stone for the rest of the round robin. I think we will win our last 3 games and be in a Leinster final.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 02/05/2023 09:30:27    2474950

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Hoping to leave Croke Park happy on Saturday which is a rare occurrence

Eoin O Donnell Has cleaned Conor Mac out of it every time he has played vs Dublin. Mac is too static and will not win high ball v Dublin. We need diagonal low ball into pacy forwards and I would start Rory and Dunbar inside.

A lot depends in the fitness of Ryan and Reck but I would start

Lawlor
S Reck Ryan Devitt
Dee
Hanlon D Reck Donohue
Chin R Lalor
Mc Govern Jacko O Foley
Rory Dunbar

I was unsure whether to start C Foley or Donohue but would probably go with experience although would be happy with either

Yellow (Wexford) - Posts: 589 - 02/05/2023 10:30:15    2474957

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Replying To LohansRedHelmet:  "Wow calling Clare and Limerick fans savages? Every
County has their pick of trouble makers especially when there is a band wagon but calling us savages is very poor taste.

This is a local derby, in the Munster Championship. Munster championship is a pressure cooker environment where you cannot afford to lose a game unlike Leinster. That along brings a tension to the supporters but to suggest we are savages is poor form."
Savages is being kind to the Clare supporters.

countyman2022 (Wexford) - Posts: 823 - 02/05/2023 11:20:06    2474965

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Replying To Finchfurlong996:  "Hard luck to minors. A brilliant effort in the second half considering the blow of the goal before HT. Probably the winning of it for them. When we got back to one I just felt we didn't capitalize as much as we should have. Maybe that's were having been brought up playing for a successful school team such as Kieran's, compared to playing for our schools who are struggling being honest. Schools have to be looked at and try do something to improve our results. Especially Peters who haven't really done much over the last few years. Winning breeds believe and we need to start winning again at underage. However, going unbeaten in the RR and pushing Kilkenny close is not the worse. Something to work with at least.

Much of this team underage next year?"
As fair as I know a good few are underage again next year maybe 5 of the starting 15? was up at it, you could see Roark our centre back dropping off in the 1st half I think to provide cover for the big full forward mcdermott but the centre forward Kelly for Kilkenny was killing us picking up pockets of space, definitely an issue with our set up around the middle in the amount of freedom he got, think the difference was Kilkenny had the 2 or 3 real dangerous forwards we lacked, couldn't fault our lads in the end went out with their boots on.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/05/2023 11:32:52    2474972

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Replying To Viking66:  "Yes was a poor attendance. Even noticed it in the lack of traffic heading home."
Even with the poor attendance was still a good atmosphere in the main stand, I'd say Croke Park with be like a ghost down on Saturday place won't even be 20% full.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/05/2023 11:34:47    2474973

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Ryan will hardly be back fit for next weekend and obviously Damien Recks injury is struggling to clear. Did Joe O'Connor impress? I didn't think so really but options are limited in defence. Kevin Foley might be a better bet than DOK as sweeper at this stage too. Have DOK to come in for last 20 instead. Shane Reck will be on Donal Burke anyway. Think it's worth swapping Devitt and Donohue too, Devitt has been too loose for me in both games and Donohue is better at corner back.

It's obvious we have to make a change at midfield and it's likely McGovern will be moved back there instead of Hearne. I think Mac will be brought back in up front. Thought he was decent enough when he came in, got his hand on ball and used it well. Lawlor must be pushing close for a start too, has a touch of class about him."
If Mac is to start they can't put him on Eoghan O'Donnell as O'Donnell gives him a lesson any time they are matched up

grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 182 - 02/05/2023 11:44:56    2474976

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Even with the poor attendance was still a good atmosphere in the main stand, I'd say Croke Park with be like a ghost down on Saturday place won't even be 20% full."
Thought that myself . Those of us that were there got behind the lads . I see they are selling tickets for the hogan and cusack stands saturday which makes no sense at all. I would have thought if we all packed into the hogan lower tier it would be a far better atmosphere

Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 02/05/2023 11:47:21    2474977

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Replying To LarryOBrother:  "I was delighted with the performance on Saturday to be honest. The lads played very well and looked to be more of a cut and championship energy off them.
I think it was the perfect result. It shows the lads they are well capable of putting up a big score and putting teams to the sword but also leaves them with enough to work on so they won't be over confident next weekend.
I'm reading the negative posts here and i'm wondering were the people posting actually at the match? We scored 1-25 from play and probably could have scored 3-33. When was the last time that happened? It was a big step up on the Galway game and hopefully it is a stepping stone for the rest of the round robin. I think we will win our last 3 games and be in a Leinster final."
There was 2 sides to it in my opinion, 1st half very good, 2nd half very poor, forward play excellent, how open we were at the other end a concern, funnily it was the opposite of the game in Salthill where our defence was reasonably good but we had no punch upfront.

TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 02/05/2023 11:57:54    2474981

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Even with the poor attendance was still a good atmosphere in the main stand, I'd say Croke Park with be like a ghost down on Saturday place won't even be 20% full."
Alot of us based in Dublin will obviously be at the game and I would have expected that there would be a large number of families attending. If we happen to win three games and return for a Leinster final there will be 45,000 plus there.

From watching the online games at the weekend, the minors seemed to have strong backs and they defended well for the most part while the forwards of the 20s looked sharp and dangerous.

wexfordwin (Wexford) - Posts: 191 - 02/05/2023 12:04:39    2474985

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Replying To TerribleFootwork:  "Even with the poor attendance was still a good atmosphere in the main stand, I'd say Croke Park with be like a ghost down on Saturday place won't even be 20% full."
There might be 10,000 there at stretch.

LarryOBrother (Wexford) - Posts: 412 - 02/05/2023 12:07:24    2474986

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Replying To zinny:  "The minors went down fighting, cannot fault the individual effort of the boys out there. However you have to ask is there anyone in the coaching setup that know anything about how the modern game of hurling is played. Our backs were mopping up ball after ball and even when there was overlaps, sending it down high into the Kilkenny half back line or on a number of times to a lose Kilkenny player. In fairness to Kilkenny they created the goal chances which they didn't get, we had a couple opportunities but poor execution of the pass let us down and we didn't get as far as getting a shot off. Better team won, the looked more cohesive and better coached than our lads."
I attended the minor or game yesterday I think they played very well,they started very fast and had runners everywhere got a nice few scores!! From the 10 min onwards to half time they went out of the game couldn't win puckouts, really struggled for scores!! Even at that it looked like they would only be goin in at half time 3 down,and Kilkenny not lookin overly good either!!! The goal right on half time was the sucker punch and the difference in the end really!!! In the second half they gave a great display and tried to spread the ball around like the first 10 mins and had Kilkenny under all sorts of pressure,came from 7 down back to a point!!! Wexford had two chances of goals on the run in aswell but we're flicked away of the line!! On the coaching I think the coaches would have a great knowledge of how the modern game is played,I could hear them constantly on about keeping the ball wide into space and runners throughout that game and in particular the 20 min period where they kept hitting it down the middle, but for some reason the lads kept doing it and it cost them the game!!!I would say the coaching is not the issue!!! If u look at it Doyle scored 10 points 8 or 9 frees and a 65,hyland scored 3 and dunne scored 1 both midfielders 3 points from play from your forwards not good enough!!! We had no stand out forward that's going to get u scores every day,but they battled to the end!!!Galway hammered Dublin so I'd say Kilkenny will be under pressure against them,there was very little between them to be honest!!! absolutely think good coaching in schools is a must,if Wexford won by a point coaching wouldn't have been an issue yesterday!! Wexford just hadn't got a go to forward like Kilkenny had in Kelly at centre forward who scored 5 from play and McDermott i think at full forward and came out to wing forward,a huge man,a ball winner!!!I would think we will get a couple of good lads out of that group to progress to 20s which is really what it's all about

theboys (Wexford) - Posts: 273 - 02/05/2023 12:20:22    2474992

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Replying To Timbertony:  "Ryan will hardly be back fit for next weekend and obviously Damien Recks injury is struggling to clear. Did Joe O'Connor impress? I didn't think so really but options are limited in defence. Kevin Foley might be a better bet than DOK as sweeper at this stage too. Have DOK to come in for last 20 instead. Shane Reck will be on Donal Burke anyway. Think it's worth swapping Devitt and Donohue too, Devitt has been too loose for me in both games and Donohue is better at corner back.

It's obvious we have to make a change at midfield and it's likely McGovern will be moved back there instead of Hearne. I think Mac will be brought back in up front. Thought he was decent enough when he came in, got his hand on ball and used it well. Lawlor must be pushing close for a start too, has a touch of class about him."
I think I'd go with Matthew, Damien and Ian Carty as a half back line with Shane, Jippo and Simon in the fullback line. Kevin as the holding midfielder.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16359 - 02/05/2023 12:44:30    2475006

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