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For sure we have had glory days OTM. But the early 90s when we were coming we still lost. Last year we lost narrowly to Clare. In 2019 we lost narrowly to Tipp. Our history over the last 30 years is littered with near misses and close losses. Mixed in with a few times being hammered. We have won only 7 Leinsters and 1 AI in the last 50 odd years since 1970. The 15 before that we won many more.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16566 - 25/04/2023 09:18:59 2473559 Link 0 |
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I hear Chin's injury is ac shoulder joint . Depending on the severity it can take anything from 1 to 3 or 4 weeks for it to fully heal . Hopefully Lee's injury is on the less severe side. I would tell him to not strike any balls until Saturday to give it the best chance of healing. We really are getting rotten luck with injuries! Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 25/04/2023 09:29:39 2473563 Link 0 |
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You're spot on. For example, issue with the two games v Galway last weekend was that it was a condition a few years ago of Galway entering Leinster U20 that Leinster counties wouldn't have to travel to Galway, and that Galway's "home" matches would be played at neutral venues within Leinster instead. Suppose Wexford would have had the option last weekend to say they'd allow an exception and play the U20 in Salthill as a curtain-raiser to the senior match, but that would have been handing Galway an advantage they wouldn't otherwise have had. Would also have added significantly to costs, in terms of transport, meals and an overnight stay for the team. It was far better from a team admin point of view (but not a supporter point of view) to have the match in Carlow on the Friday evening instead. That's also the thinking behind the minor matches - to not put extra pressure on 16-year-olds by having them play in front of larger crowds. Not sure myself that's the right way of thinking, but it's the thinking anyway. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2970 - 25/04/2023 09:53:49 2473572 Link 0 |
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If Chin gets injured v Antrim he will out for the away game v Dublin in Parnell Park. I'd test him v Antrim as we have a good home record v them and have him fully right v Dublin. The Antrim game is huge though as they will take great confidence from drawing with Dublin so maybe we can't afford to rest Chin this weekend. We 100% won't beat Dublin in Parnell without Damien Reck and Lee Chin playing. Our two best players. Past hurler (None) - Posts: 970 - 25/04/2023 10:24:18 2473585 Link 0 |
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That game is in Croke Park.
TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/04/2023 10:57:08 2473610 Link 0 |
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I think its because teams don't want to give the opposition an advantage. For example, Rossiter and his u20 team would have had to play Galway in Salthill to co-incide with the senior match. That is giving Galway a massive advantage and if I was Rossiter I would ask "why should we give that advantage to them"? What the GAA need to do is have an add-on to the senior match of the U20 or minor matches on any weekend for €5. So lets say you went to Galway, you could buy a ticket for the U20 match on Friday night for €5. A double header makes sense for u20/senior because no players are on both teams ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 25/04/2023 10:57:22 2473611 Link 0 |
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It's in Croker rather than Parnell, which is better for us but agreed we need to be focused on having as many players back for that. That said, Antrim will be up for it on Saturday, and so do we
goreyll (Wexford) - Posts: 164 - 25/04/2023 11:02:12 2473616 Link 0 |
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100% its very hard to know . Maybe the best option would be to have him on the bench and bring him on if needed. I could be wrong but its hard to see Reck being 100% fit for Saturday if he strained his hamstring. This saturday is a huge banana skin but I agree we should have enough for Antrim aslong as we perform. We need both players fit and ready to start Saturday week in Croke Park Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 25/04/2023 11:07:26 2473622 Link 0 |
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Think Lee and Damien should be on the bench even if passed fit. Break glass in case of fire!
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16566 - 25/04/2023 12:55:58 2473681 Link 0 |
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I think leaving chinner and Reck out on Saturday would be the right call. Having watched it I'm sure taking dee off and leaving chinner on the bench for the end that was exactly the strategy. Doylerwex (Wexford) - Posts: 3836 - 25/04/2023 13:38:17 2473703 Link 0 |
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On a less important topic that new away jersey is horrific, purple sleeves and navy middle make it look nearly like a training bib over a jersey. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 25/04/2023 13:52:38 2473709 Link 0 |
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That's pathetic in fairness if the perception of giving up home advantage is outweighing the benefits of playing the U-20 games before senior (I'd say you are spot on with the reasons tbh). Player development, more crowds, more interest, better marketing etc are some of the benefits......Then again Galway faced huge opposition joining into Leinster in the first place for senior and also until this year underage. That's the level of petty small minded rubbish you get with some hurling counties unfortunately, no wonder the game struggles to grow! As an aside, I guess the horse has bolted on this one but surely Waterford would be a better fit for Leinster than Galway anyway..guess there is no chance of this changing bar ripping up the antiquated provincial structure. Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 436 - 25/04/2023 15:07:16 2473746 Link 0 |
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I think we were far closer to winning in the 90's than we are now. 2019 was more the outlier but it also shows that there needs to be dislocation in the other teams for us to win. Take Limerick out of it and we require us to be going very well and a couple of other top teams to be off form. So yeah you could say as long as we stick in there it could happen but I always felt in the 90s it was more of a toss of a coin and we were not far off.
zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 2026 - 25/04/2023 15:57:17 2473765 Link 0 |
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I felt at the time we were a bit behind Cork, Kilkenny and Offaly in the early 90s they always seemed to edge the big games. Clare and Limerick were coming in Munster and Tipp were fairly strong too, although we didn't really play any of them in big games til 96 as we couldn't get over Offaly and Kilkenny in Leinster. Galway also had a good team. We were ahead of Waterford.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16566 - 25/04/2023 16:27:21 2473777 Link 0 |
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Thought we beat ourselves in 93, league and Leinster finals. Watch them back and how we didn't get over the line still beats all. There's an argument that the team in 93 was possibly stronger than even 96. I think the outlier is more the Leinster win in 04, annihilated subsequently by Cork.
Timbertony (Wexford) - Posts: 436 - 25/04/2023 17:48:05 2473815 Link 0 |
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Wexford have being unlucky with injuries and obviously chin is the heartbeat of this team and reck is a excellent hurler but the performance Saturday evening was very poor. It was a 6 point hammering.The 2 early goals put a bit of a gloss on the scoreboard.12 points and a number if them frees is a very poor return in championship hurling. Chin is injury prone and Egan has to mind him. Egan probably targeted the next 3 games to get 3rd spot in leinster.tmThere is going to be massive holes left In this team in the next year or 2. Dee o Keefe,Liam og and Hanlon are in the twilight of their careers. How long more can Chin give himself the hardship he's getting. Daveys few years gave supporters a few good days out but ultimately only 1 leinster final in return. This team was built on a couple of successful u21 teams.if the u20 could get silverware this year it would be a big boost. When supporters reflect on the last few years they will be dissapointed more wasn't won at senior. Teams will always get injuries but I wonder has Daveys high intensity training the last few years not helped with these injuries With a few lads out it was time for Conor Mac to step up but he has never reached his potential. Rory o connor granted only returning after a long lay off has yet to reach his full potential. Granted everyone can't have a big panel like limerick but Wexford are very reliant on the bare 15 and the older lads like Chin and dee o Keefe. If young lads aren't introduced and start making an impression it's going to be a very bleak time in a short few years.No disrespect to antrim but The fact that people are nervous about playing ANTRIM at home sums up where Wexford are at the moment and I think we're on a slippery slope right now. Definitely worrying times ahead. Slowandshortsighted (UK) - Posts: 71 - 26/04/2023 01:21:28 2473859 Link 0 |
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My team for Saturday would be HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 26/04/2023 10:16:45 2473890 Link 0 |
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Noticaable the difference in the pace at which the game was played last Saturday v the Munster games. HurlingBuzz (Wexford) - Posts: 554 - 26/04/2023 10:20:44 2473893 Link 0 |
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Cork won the AI that year, beating Kilkenny by 8 points which was a huge margin back then, and the following one. They were arguably the best team in the country that time.
Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16566 - 26/04/2023 10:38:14 2473905 Link 0 |
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Think that's a bit disrespectful to Antrim. Apart from when Tipp thrashed their 2nd team in the League they have performed very well against all the top 9 counties. In the last 2 years they have beaten Clare and drew with ourselves and Dublin in League and Championship. And ran Cork and Kilkenny fairly close also. I wouldn't say I'm nervous about them but I think your post sums up alot of what's wrong with us over the years. The top teams prepare for EVERY game as if they were playing the AI champions. Subconsciously we, especially the supporters, seem to assume we only have to turn up to beat the middle tier counties. We only drew with Westmeath last year. And Kerry gave us plenty to think about into the 2nd half in Tralee. Our history since the 60s, or maybe the 70s, is littered with walking on banana skins, at every age group and level, because we just didn't pay enough attention where we were treading. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16566 - 26/04/2023 10:49:26 2473911 Link 0 |