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Replying To Viking66: "Grealish did very well on Rory last year too. Every player has a nemesis and he seems to be Rorys." Grelish fouled Rory all day last year and we got a number of frees off him and should have had 4 or 5 more. Grelish hardly touched the ball all day in that match lochgarmanabu (Wexford) - Posts: 1022 - 24/04/2023 09:56:10 2473084 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Sorry I'd start Richie Lawlor instead of Mikey inside" Dunno what happened to the post with my team for the Antrim game that I amended in this post! Lawlor S Reck, Jippo, Devitt Donohue, MOH, Flood K Foley DOK, Hearne Jacko, ROC, O Foley Mogie, R Lawlor Assuming Chin, D Reck and Carty aren't fit enough to start. Bench- C Byrne (Rosslare), Dunbar, Dwyer, Mcguckin, Clarke, Higgins if fit, the 3 lads above if fit enough for the bench but break glass in case of emergency! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 09:57:22 2473085 Link
Replying To Waltermitty2: "Is one of the players related to egan by any chance?" Ah FFS!!!!! Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 09:57:43 2473086 Link
Replying To lochgarmanabu: "Grelish fouled Rory all day last year and we got a number of frees off him and should have had 4 or 5 more. Grelish hardly touched the ball all day in that match" For sure he did foul but he only gave away 3 frees. But he prevented Rory getting/creating goals which was his job for the day. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 09:59:10 2473087 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "I was at the match and thought it was a very poor affair but the pitch, weather and referee contributed to that massively, really felt like a league game. It looked like Wexford were using this a warm up game at times, there was no buzz or spark or urgency and i think that reflects very poorly on the management team. Add in the loss of Chin and Reck and it made for a very tough day at the office. However, we did compete valiantly and had chances for this to be a much closer game so i think the abject criticism is not fair. I also think we may have stumbled on to the best team given the performances of Jacko and Mikie Dwyer when introduced. I think Oisin Foley and Charlie will be left off against Antrim. Finally my opinion on Galway has dropped massively in light of that game we good have scored four or five goals and they looked very leggy at the back. I'd be shocked if they win the All Ireland" Agree with all that Larry except I'd give Oisin the next game to try to get some match fitness into him. Same as R Lawlor. I'd have Mikie starting against Dublin and Kilkenny I think he's our most underrated player the last couple of years. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 10:01:27 2473090 Link
The signs are not good for a long summer. While the team has been on the decline since 2019, I don't think any of the problems are new ones. Wexford lack ball winning half forwards. The backs get criticised but you can only bail so much water in a full back line. I can't see Darragh Egan being Wexford manager next year because its the nature of sport but I think it has a ring of ignoring the problems to just blame the manager. Wexford are a poor side and have a threadbare squad since nobody in the 20-25 age grouping is pushing the elder statesmen out. Wexford need these players badly now and they are not putting their hand up or showing a willingness to put in the commitment. But that said, in 2 years under Darragh Egan I have seen no game plan or style of play. I also think he is too quiet on the line, I'm not advocating Davy style antics but he fought for every ball like Brian Cody did for years. There's a happy medium. But I'm not sure the players are there and this is the Davy legacy for Wexford. ExiledInWex (Dublin) - Posts: 1432 - 24/04/2023 10:03:28 2473091 Link
Replying To gannett83: "Just on the match yesterday lads hope all the lads commenting on this were actually at or watched the match… anyway here is my take on it traveled up with hope more than expectation but loosing chin and reck before throw in and playing our best forward away from goal i was actually suprised we were level at half time… the same old failings are there no ball winners when we go long ya can talk about tactics systems etc the game has moved on from years ago bla bla bla.. but at the end of the day ball winning forwards wll never go out of the game and we struggled after half time… lawlor put i think 3 or 4 puckouts on top of foley didn't win or break 1 in that 10 or 15 mins we were cleaned out of it all over the field… Egan for me should be questioned and i think the county board made a huge mistake employing someone with no inter county experience… a good coach doesn't make ya a good manager… if we are going to play with a sweeper play with one and for me it should be kevin foley there is no way he should be on the bench… do we move mac out to half forward line start jacko there along with chin as a ball winning line… try Dunbar and Rory inside that have lighting pace and play low ball??think Egan is playing Dunbar midfield as d o keefe hasn't got the legs anymore, think Antrim game is massive for Egan as we need to get a better game plan in place… don't think chin and Reck wil start as we can't risk them with the Dublin game crucial.. My team for Antrim game…lawlor Reck Ryan devitt Conor foley donohoe o hanlon… d o keefe Kevin foley… Hearne jack o Connor mac… Richie lawlor rory o Connor cathal Dunbar" Agree gannett and yes the book stops with Egan but it really is an inexperienced set up for inter county and is the blind leading the blind. Is he even a good coach ?? as Tipp had Eamonn O'Shea when Egan was in there. None of current setup have any significant experience/success and half the county and the county board seem to think one is the messiah of wexford hurling and the next Paul Kinnerk when he is tactically naïve and all he has done is set up coaching structure for underage and won a county final with a talented group of players in 2018. Skippy Ruth , Codd and Parker/Martin Byrne have all done same in last couple of years but not talked about as the next big thing. grassroots01 (Wexford) - Posts: 182 - 24/04/2023 10:04:31 2473092 Link
Replying To LarryOBrother: "I was at the match and thought it was a very poor affair but the pitch, weather and referee contributed to that massively, really felt like a league game. It looked like Wexford were using this a warm up game at times, there was no buzz or spark or urgency and i think that reflects very poorly on the management team. Add in the loss of Chin and Reck and it made for a very tough day at the office. However, we did compete valiantly and had chances for this to be a much closer game so i think the abject criticism is not fair. I also think we may have stumbled on to the best team given the performances of Jacko and Mikie Dwyer when introduced. I think Oisin Foley and Charlie will be left off against Antrim. Finally my opinion on Galway has dropped massively in light of that game we good have scored four or five goals and they looked very leggy at the back. I'd be shocked if they win the All Ireland" Took the words right out of my mouth. I think its safe to say this assumption that we were holding something back all year in the league, it being just one long build up to the championship, league sacrificed all to hit the ground running on the 22nd of April has been blown out of the water. It was a continuation of the league, weather and everything played its part in what was basically a continuation of league hurling for us. It was one of the flattest championship games ive ever being at, coupled with the fact i actually thought Galway were poor, very poor, something those around me in Galway colours alluded to. To be fair to the players though i couldnt fault their effort, they battled throughout, there was no lack of effort on the players part imho. But since the start of this year its just a continuation, what i wanted from the weekend was a display with a bit of fight and got that to be fair to the players but thats about it. I genuinely dotn see any sense of direction or any sense of a coherent gameplan or approach to the game. I mean even for the penalty we had players talking over who to take it, discussing the best option, even at one stage Simon Donoghue was telling Hearne to step up to take it whilst 2 other players talked amongst themselves. I mean surely for an intercounty hurling team thats already nailed down before you take to the pitch? We get a penalty heres out taker and if hes not on the pitch here whos next etc etc, thats basic club underage level stuff. There just seems to be a complete lack of a plan every day we go out, that was the case all league and the talk was that was deliberate to peak for championship, well it wasnt evident last saturday. tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1534 - 24/04/2023 10:25:54 2473106 Link
Antrim game , Wexford by 6 hurlorhurley (Wexford) - Posts: 1660 - 24/04/2023 10:26:26 2473108 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Can't find anything about that yet. Are you sure? It's a very complicated set up." Yeah its defiantly Kilkenny in the semi final, think its home and away, wouldn't be surprised if its away as we played them in Bellefield last year. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 24/04/2023 10:33:11 2473109 Link
Replying To tearintom: "Took the words right out of my mouth. I think its safe to say this assumption that we were holding something back all year in the league, it being just one long build up to the championship, league sacrificed all to hit the ground running on the 22nd of April has been blown out of the water. It was a continuation of the league, weather and everything played its part in what was basically a continuation of league hurling for us. It was one of the flattest championship games ive ever being at, coupled with the fact i actually thought Galway were poor, very poor, something those around me in Galway colours alluded to. To be fair to the players though i couldnt fault their effort, they battled throughout, there was no lack of effort on the players part imho. But since the start of this year its just a continuation, what i wanted from the weekend was a display with a bit of fight and got that to be fair to the players but thats about it. I genuinely dotn see any sense of direction or any sense of a coherent gameplan or approach to the game. I mean even for the penalty we had players talking over who to take it, discussing the best option, even at one stage Simon Donoghue was telling Hearne to step up to take it whilst 2 other players talked amongst themselves. I mean surely for an intercounty hurling team thats already nailed down before you take to the pitch? We get a penalty heres out taker and if hes not on the pitch here whos next etc etc, thats basic club underage level stuff. There just seems to be a complete lack of a plan every day we go out, that was the case all league and the talk was that was deliberate to peak for championship, well it wasnt evident last saturday." Wait until the end of the round robin before reaching conclusions. Missing the penalty and some of our top stars didn't help but can't see us losing any of the other round robin games.Watch this space. Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/04/2023 10:58:18 2473126 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "The signs are not good for a long summer. While the team has been on the decline since 2019, I don't think any of the problems are new ones. Wexford lack ball winning half forwards. The backs get criticised but you can only bail so much water in a full back line. I can't see Darragh Egan being Wexford manager next year because its the nature of sport but I think it has a ring of ignoring the problems to just blame the manager. Wexford are a poor side and have a threadbare squad since nobody in the 20-25 age grouping is pushing the elder statesmen out. Wexford need these players badly now and they are not putting their hand up or showing a willingness to put in the commitment. But that said, in 2 years under Darragh Egan I have seen no game plan or style of play. I also think he is too quiet on the line, I'm not advocating Davy style antics but he fought for every ball like Brian Cody did for years. There's a happy medium. But I'm not sure the players are there and this is the Davy legacy for Wexford." Being a Wexford fan is like riding a rollercoaster, bigs highs followed by massive lows and it is just as nauseating as a rollercoaster ride too. In 2019, we were within a whisker of an All Ireland appearance and arguably another title, 4 years later we're in another one of our periodic (too frequent) existential crises questioning will we plummet out of the top flight, with a sense of a bleak future. Are we doomed to this cycle? Is there some unique reason that Wexford suffer this affliction, genetic, geographic - no there is not, its within the power of the people of this county to turn things around but to do this we have to be honest with ourselves, we have to be prepared to do the hard work, the right things, to ask the difficult questions, find the answers and listen and act on them. - Do we have a big enough player base when compared to other counties? - Do we have enough players going onto FitzGibbon? - Do we have enough schools competing in Colleges A hurling (Offlay and Dublin (x2) have combined colleges teams) - Do we have enough of the right quality coaches working in clubs and on Dev squads - Why does it seems that in general Wexford teams are physically smaller than other counties - are we smaller in general or just when it comes to elite hurlers?? wexford2012 (Wexford) - Posts: 121 - 24/04/2023 11:23:39 2473155 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Dunno what happened to the post with my team for the Antrim game that I amended in this post! Lawlor S Reck, Jippo, Devitt Donohue, MOH, Flood K Foley DOK, Hearne Jacko, ROC, O Foley Mogie, R Lawlor Assuming Chin, D Reck and Carty aren't fit enough to start. Bench- C Byrne (Rosslare), Dunbar, Dwyer, Mcguckin, Clarke, Higgins if fit, the 3 lads above if fit enough for the bench but break glass in case of emergency!" Would go with this team too. Dwyer played well when he came on and could start also . Think Oisin Foley will get better Saturday was his first game back. Hopefully Lee and Damien will be back. These next 2 games will define our season Afinestick (Wexford) - Posts: 999 - 24/04/2023 11:26:45 2473158 Link
Replying To Tiger1: "Wait until the end of the round robin before reaching conclusions. Missing the penalty and some of our top stars didn't help but can't see us losing any of the other round robin games.Watch this space." I agree regarding waiting til the end of the round robin before completely jumping to conclusions but concerns have to be there at the moment, I do think Chin is a transformative player for us hopefully he can get back for Saturday, even the best team in the country can miss key players, taught Hannon going off unsettled Limerick alot yesterday. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 24/04/2023 11:45:00 2473169 Link
Replying To ExiledInWex: "The signs are not good for a long summer. While the team has been on the decline since 2019, I don't think any of the problems are new ones. Wexford lack ball winning half forwards. The backs get criticised but you can only bail so much water in a full back line. I can't see Darragh Egan being Wexford manager next year because its the nature of sport but I think it has a ring of ignoring the problems to just blame the manager. Wexford are a poor side and have a threadbare squad since nobody in the 20-25 age grouping is pushing the elder statesmen out. Wexford need these players badly now and they are not putting their hand up or showing a willingness to put in the commitment. But that said, in 2 years under Darragh Egan I have seen no game plan or style of play. I also think he is too quiet on the line, I'm not advocating Davy style antics but he fought for every ball like Brian Cody did for years. There's a happy medium. But I'm not sure the players are there and this is the Davy legacy for Wexford." On account of our approach to underage S and C alot of our better hurlers don't seem to reach the physical strength needed until they are 25-28. Players in this age group would include Kevin Foley, Ryan, Flood, Carty, Higgins, Hearne, Clarke, ROC , the 2 Recks, Dwyer, Joe OC, Dunbar, Devitt, Donohue, O Foley, P Foley, Conor Firman, James Lawlor . That's 19 lads. In the 20- 24 age group there's Charlie Mcguckin, Niall Murphy, Richie Lawlor, Jack Doran, Tucker Kinsella, Conall Clancy, Ross Banville, Kyle Scallan, Josh Shiel and Cian Byrne (Rosslare). All are too light really, although they can change that if they want to work at it. AJ Redmond and Cian Molloy are big losses if they aren't prepared to give intercounty a proper lash. There are some excellent hurlers in that list of 31. A good mix of speed and height. It's about getting them up to size/strength in some cases and getting them intercounty experience in others. Lads like Ryan, ROC, the 2 Recks, the 3 Foleys, Dwyer, Dunbar, Devitt, Donohue are already pretty experienced and strong. That's 11 lads. And lads like Chin, MOH, DOK, should have a couple more good years left in them. Maybe Mogie too who is in amazing form still. It's not all doom and gloom for the next 4 or 5 years. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 11:48:53 2473172 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Yeah its defiantly Kilkenny in the semi final, think its home and away, wouldn't be surprised if its away as we played them in Bellefield last year." Any idea when it is? It's not on the Leinster GAA website. Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 11:50:37 2473174 Link
Thinking about the Salthill game there are some positives to be got out of it. A-- if Damien and Chinner played and if Rory was employed as a forward I honestly feel we would have played much better. Stupid decision to put him in as a sweeper. B-- Macs penalty was weakly struck and straight at the keeper. I'm sure Jacko or Rory would have buried it. Jacko definitely scored a point in the second half but the umpire waved it wide. That point and the penalty would have given us 3.13 at the end. Playing poorly for most of the game we could and should have only lost by 2 points. C-- with all the lads back and some kind of game plan and players in their proper positions I am convinced we can still finish in the top 3. Dublin were steeped to get out of Corrigan park with a draw. I firmly believe we will beat Antrim and Westmeath. Dublin could be tricky in croker but if we are playing with a full deck even allowing for our inconsistencies we have every chance of a win.D-- jacko must start from here on in. I know he hasn't played too well in the past while but he adds much needed strength in the front six area. Thought he made a difference when he came on. Magpie2 (Wexford) - Posts: 537 - 24/04/2023 12:14:44 2473192 Link
Replying To Viking66: "Any idea when it is? It's not on the Leinster GAA website." Think its due to be next weekend, could be Monday either with it being a Bank Holiday. TerribleFootwork (Wexford) - Posts: 1760 - 24/04/2023 12:57:25 2473228 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Think its due to be next weekend, could be Monday either with it being a Bank Holiday." It's in Kilkenny Monday I heard by all accounts. Tiger1 (Wexford) - Posts: 409 - 24/04/2023 14:02:11 2473264 Link
Replying To TerribleFootwork: "Think its due to be next weekend, could be Monday either with it being a Bank Holiday." Thanks. Monday would suit me best Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 16558 - 24/04/2023 14:29:51 2473280 Link