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Replying To Viking66:  "Its a token gesture, and maybe a bit of a deterrent. But at the end of the day they are heavily outnumbered and outgunned by Hezbollah and Israel. They wouldn't stand a chance against either side."
Clearly the recent evidence suggests peacekeepers are a zero deterrent in Lebanon to either side, so to me its a pointless exercise that is risking the lives or Irish peacekeepers for no reason other than being a token gesture with no substance.

Not much of a deterrent when everybody knows they are dogs with no bite.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1665 - 21/03/2026 09:22:27    2662023

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Observing and reporting…..They are outmanned and outgunned."
So Peace-monitoring UN representatives is probably a more accurate title.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1665 - 21/03/2026 10:42:02    2662031

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Time for the UN to disband?
Like it's predecessor the League of Nations it proved powerless when the big bullies started wars.

Seanfan (Roscommon) - Posts: 420 - 21/03/2026 10:46:16    2662032

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Replying To SouthGalway:  "I fully agree and that was pointed out and said but what I pointed out was ignored for whatever reason. I guess it didn't suit some here. I hate war as I repeated over and over but don't treat it like it's Angel vs Devil because there's enough evil to go around. I hope the Iranian PEOPLE get what they want but I have no love at all for their Government (or Israel's). But having said that I really hope this gets over with quickly."
Perhaps you could explain what was ignored, I prioritised your point at the start of my reply. You chose one isolated incident, an incident that is also being reported as a punishment for crimes that merit the same death penalty in America, by the way.

Nobody said it was angel vs devil, but America and Israel attacked Iran during negotiations, multiple times. So stop pretending you dont see the oil/empire greedy elephant in the room please.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2623 - 21/03/2026 11:53:05    2662047

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Replying To Seanfan:  "Time for the UN to disband?
Like it's predecessor the League of Nations it proved powerless when the big bullies started wars."
Probably is only useful in humanitarian missions. The big boys don't care or observe international law. As a US contributor said on TV recently…"Why are you talking about international law….? The US don't care about it and break it regardless. Same goes for Israel, Russia, China. The only countries obeying international law are the small ones".

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11964 - 21/03/2026 13:36:50    2662066

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low info. posters in no short supply here. The U.N. has many branches committed to improving the condition of humanity.
Disbanding would be a disaster.

suckvalleypaddy (Galway) - Posts: 1777 - 21/03/2026 15:48:28    2662080

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Trump on another rambling rant last night. This time re threatening to take Greenland unless EU states step up and help them with Iran and the strait. What a president! Any commentary from the Galway trump fan club here?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11964 - 21/03/2026 15:50:21    2662081

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Replying To Seanfan:  "Time for the UN to disband?
Like it's predecessor the League of Nations it proved powerless when the big bullies started wars."
No, but the world needs a mechanism to overcome the veto power of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, as that is ultimately what renders the UN powerless in matters of war.

And if those members refuse, then perhaps the UN should discard those permanent members and remove their influence from it completely and have the UN represent the rest of the world without Veto. Leave the US, UK, France, Russia and China on the outside.

Commodore (Donegal) - Posts: 1665 - 21/03/2026 21:05:10    2662139

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Replying To Commodore:  "No, but the world needs a mechanism to overcome the veto power of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, as that is ultimately what renders the UN powerless in matters of war.

And if those members refuse, then perhaps the UN should discard those permanent members and remove their influence from it completely and have the UN represent the rest of the world without Veto. Leave the US, UK, France, Russia and China on the outside."
Obvious question here is - who funds the UN and its vast organisations. It's not just the general assembly or the security council anymore

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2152 - 21/03/2026 21:49:35    2662144

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Replying To Commodore:  "No, but the world needs a mechanism to overcome the veto power of the permanent members of the UN Security Council, as that is ultimately what renders the UN powerless in matters of war.

And if those members refuse, then perhaps the UN should discard those permanent members and remove their influence from it completely and have the UN represent the rest of the world without Veto. Leave the US, UK, France, Russia and China on the outside."
Obvious question here is - who funds the UN and its vast organisations. It's not just the general assembly or the security council anymore

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 2152 - 21/03/2026 22:23:58    2662147

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