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Replying To updwell:  "Ut wasn't thrown away, it was given to Ukraine to support them against fascists."
And how's that going for them? Its just throwing good money after bad. Imagine what €125 million could have done for our own defense or our Gardai? Remember Zelenski and Co aren't worrying about you and me.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2620 - 07/12/2025 20:20:53    2647384

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Replying To Viking66:  "So Trump deserves credit for caving in to Putins demands? Like Lloyd George did for caving in to Carson and Craig's demands? Or Collins for that matter?"
the 26 counties "caved in" I suppose. Can you name one demand that Trump "caved in" on ?
you may be right but please edify

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1248 - 07/12/2025 20:58:29    2647391

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "the 26 counties "caved in" I suppose. Can you name one demand that Trump "caved in" on ?
you may be right but please edify"
Putin wants the Donbas. Trump agreed to that in his provisional plan.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 17717 - 07/12/2025 21:50:59    2647402

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Replying To Bon:  "And how's that going for them? Its just throwing good money after bad. Imagine what €125 million could have done for our own defense or our Gardai? Remember Zelenski and Co aren't worrying about you and me."
Well everyone thought the Russians would overrun Ukraine in a month and 3 years later they've barely moved forward and when they do it's at the expense of thousands of Russians. As regards Zelenski not worrying about us on the contrary if the Russians aren't stopped now they will continue to roll westward and some day all of Europe will have to face up to Putin and we will need the help then.

updwell (Limerick) - Posts: 922 - 07/12/2025 21:54:45    2647404

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Replying To Viking66:  "Putin wants the Donbas. Trump agreed to that in his provisional plan."
The Donbas corridor is the gateway to the Crimea, hence the annexation. It's a horrible war that needs to end.
Maybe Kamala Harris would have fixed it by now, hardly.
Look, peace to all during this season and best in 2026.

maroondiesel (Mayo) - Posts: 1248 - 08/12/2025 10:31:41    2647436

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Replying To maroondiesel:  "Not a huge Trump fan, but I don't have Trump derangement syndrome like most of the fools on here.
Give credit when it's due."
What does Trump deserve credit for?

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11831 - 08/12/2025 11:10:27    2647446

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