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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "A junket that nobody has any interest in whatsoever.. No wonder we are so woeful when it comes to the World Cup when going on a Lions junket is the hight of their ambitions.. pinnacle of their careers my hat..!"
Lions tours were, and still are, odyssies to play in far off lands and test yourself against the best, playing with the best from this part of the world. They still are, as you keep reminding us the southern hemisphere teams are way ahead of us.
No top player turns down the chance to play with or against the Lions.
Being as you aren't into rugby I guess you couldn't know this.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 11:29:05    2593666

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Replying To Pope_Benedict:  "I know you're not harping on about it, but to compare the likelihood of a northern hemisphere side winning the rugby world cup to the likelihood of Clintonville or Stenhousemuir winning the Champions League is another meaningless stupid comparative."
Of course. That was the point. Who are Clintonville BTW?

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 11:30:18    2593667

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "That's sad. And telling. That this made up team from a colonial throwback is more important than playing or indeed managing your own country, or the country that employs you to manage them."
It's a sports team. Get a grip. At least Ireland has always had 1 team in rugby, unlike some other sports.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 12:10:26    2593673

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Replying To Viking66:  "It's a sports team. Get a grip. At least Ireland has always had 1 team in rugby, unlike some other sports."
A sports team that takes precedence over playing for your country. Sad. Ireland also has one international rules team and also had one soccer team for quite a while.

boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 148 - 28/02/2025 12:55:12    2593685

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Replying To Viking66:  "Lions tours were, and still are, odyssies to play in far off lands and test yourself against the best, playing with the best from this part of the world. They still are, as you keep reminding us the southern hemisphere teams are way ahead of us.
No top player turns down the chance to play with or against the Lions.
Being as you aren't into rugby I guess you couldn't know this."
Still a meaningless junket…..

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3518 - 28/02/2025 13:17:26    2593695

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Replying To supersub15:  "That is a very unfair and unqualified assessment of that Ireland Rugby team and it's management, because its our national Rugby team we're talking about it is an ideal time to wind up certain posters. Because you and a few others have a personal dislike for the game suggests to me you have not accumulated much knowledge about it.

For starters Management we're not fully to blame for Ireland's failure to clinch the title. The word demise is belittling don't you think.Lady luck deserted us in that world cup final game and you know it. After many attempts for that all important push over try it simply didn't happen no one can say we wasted a chance or hadnt got the energy, players or know how, and that is part of sport.

Playing Romania is akin to France playing Italy with a loaded team and clocking up 70 plus points to carry them through to meet Ireland.when their weakest 15 would suffice, I could be wrong but I doubt it very much.

It's not that I fell for the bait, ie, your post, its just to remind yourself and others how little you know about sport and how it works including management.

Discussion closed."
Still lost the game that mattered most… Sexton at 38 years of age was barely fit to move.. don't try and tell me that it was right to play him in that first game because that will show that you know nothing about the game.. Management made a big blunder and it's as simple as that…

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3518 - 28/02/2025 13:24:20    2593697

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Still lost the game that mattered most… Sexton at 38 years of age was barely fit to move.. don't try and tell me that it was right to play him in that first game because that will show that you know nothing about the game.. Management made a big blunder and it's as simple as that…"
Sexton looked vulnerable imo on goalkicking at the last rwc, especially in crunch moments like versus SA and NZ. Too fond of 'going for touch/tries' instead of putting penalty points on the board. Jonny choked a bit imo at the last rwc, specifically in relation to goalkicking evaluation, confidence level, and strike rate.

Pope_Benedict (Galway) - Posts: 3985 - 28/02/2025 13:57:52    2593702

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How is it that Andy Farrell stepped aside for the 6 nations campaign if the lions tour isn't until the summer? Was it a requirement of the lions job that he had to take a sabbatical from the Ireland job or did he do it off his own back? The timing's of both gigs would surely not clash?
Thanks.

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 2172 - 28/02/2025 14:31:46    2593707

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Replying To Bon:  "How is it that Andy Farrell stepped aside for the 6 nations campaign if the lions tour isn't until the summer? Was it a requirement of the lions job that he had to take a sabbatical from the Ireland job or did he do it off his own back? The timing's of both gigs would surely not clash?
Thanks."
I would imagine it was so he could watch players from the different countries and evaluate their strengths and weaknesses on different days and against different opposition.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1450 - 28/02/2025 14:50:09    2593709

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Replying To Bon:  "How is it that Andy Farrell stepped aside for the 6 nations campaign if the lions tour isn't until the summer? Was it a requirement of the lions job that he had to take a sabbatical from the Ireland job or did he do it off his own back? The timing's of both gigs would surely not clash?
Thanks."
It's a big job I'd be guessing. Alot to organise. Think Gatland was the same.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 15:56:26    2593731

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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns:  "A sports team that takes precedence over playing for your country. Sad. Ireland also has one international rules team and also had one soccer team for quite a while."
It doesn't take precedence. Other tours are organised these days for the lads who don't make the Lions squad. They didn't used to be.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 15:58:17    2593732

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Still a meaningless junket….."
Meaningless to who? You? Like any of those lads give a xxxx what you think :-D

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 15:59:03    2593733

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "Still lost the game that mattered most… Sexton at 38 years of age was barely fit to move.. don't try and tell me that it was right to play him in that first game because that will show that you know nothing about the game.. Management made a big blunder and it's as simple as that…"
We were in the 1 group that had 3 top teams in it. All the games mattered. If we lost to Romania, then SA and/or Scotland, we mightn't have made a QF at all. And if we had of narrowly won the 1st game other results could've meant we missed out on points difference. It was the 1st game. Noone knew if we were even going to beat SA and Scotland.

Viking66 (Wexford) - Posts: 14974 - 28/02/2025 16:03:32    2593736

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Replying To Viking66:  "We were in the 1 group that had 3 top teams in it. All the games mattered. If we lost to Romania, then SA and/or Scotland, we mightn't have made a QF at all. And if we had of narrowly won the 1st game other results could've meant we missed out on points difference. It was the 1st game. Noone knew if we were even going to beat SA and Scotland."
You could gather up a few lads in the stand or local pub that would have beaten Romania… Manager/
coach missed a trick by fielding his best players and left them open to fatigue later in the tournament when it really mattered… and they were bunched.. Sexton was hardly able to walk… Poor poor coaching

ForeverBlue2 (Cavan) - Posts: 3518 - 28/02/2025 16:48:09    2593749

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Replying To ForeverBlue2:  "You could gather up a few lads in the stand or local pub that would have beaten Romania… Manager/
coach missed a trick by fielding his best players and left them open to fatigue later in the tournament when it really mattered… and they were bunched.. Sexton was hardly able to walk… Poor poor coaching"
At this stage it's obvious you're working for the marketing department of the IRFU and you're using reverse psychology on the rest of us. You're pretending you hate rugby and all the while it's just a clever ruse. I wasn't sure until you gave your tactical opinion. Jamie Heaslip (or J dog as you probably call him) is going to be looking over his shoulder.

ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 173 - 28/02/2025 17:33:47    2593758

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That was some performance from MrT and Mr Vance in the White House conference. Was any other world leader ever publicly treated in such a manner - ever ?? Our man better watch his p's and q's. Mr T is on fire. He could end up with the bowl of shamrock turned upside down on his head. Anything is possible with this latest incumbent of the Oval Office.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1450 - 28/02/2025 18:29:26    2593769

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Getting away fro sport,I've just seen the trump/Zelenskyy conference..never seen any president try to bully a visiting president before..proof to me anyway that he is completely pro Russian and putin does no wrong..Christ we are in for a horrible 4 years..

CTGAA10 (Limerick) - Posts: 2460 - 28/02/2025 18:33:34    2593772

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Tony Soprano's mother never died. She just moved to Cavan and was forced to watch local sports.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2522 - 28/02/2025 18:36:36    2593774

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Don't always agree with Trump, but he fairly put the Ukrainian president in his place. He goes around the world begging and not once have I seen him dressed in a suit. Well done Trump.

Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2247 - 28/02/2025 18:40:33    2593775

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Replying To Saynothing:  "Don't always agree with Trump, but he fairly put the Ukrainian president in his place. He goes around the world begging and not once have I seen him dressed in a suit. Well done Trump."
I'm not too sure what rule book you take your diplomatic conduct guidelines from. Suffice to say that how anybody dresses, never mind a man who has been facing the wrath of Russia for 3 yrs, could be treated so disgracefully publicly by the supposed leader of the free world, is beyond the realms of common decency, never mind diplomacy.

Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1450 - 28/02/2025 18:58:02    2593780

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