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Replying To shaggykev:  "That's a fairly shocking defeat and has now blown group wide open. As a Donegal fan, beating Tyrone now becomes utterly crucial otherwise we have to go to Cavan off a week break and then have to play a Mayo side sure to be playing with their backs up against the wall."
It's not surprising…I said I wouldn't be surprised if we lost a few posts back but with Cavan injury list and home advantage I thought we might win after a struggle. Donegal don't need to worry about Mayo…we are effectively out of the championship now.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11584 - 18/05/2025 16:34:36    2610620

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Replying To shaggykev:  "That's a fairly shocking defeat and has now blown group wide open. As a Donegal fan, beating Tyrone now becomes utterly crucial otherwise we have to go to Cavan off a week break and then have to play a Mayo side sure to be playing with their backs up against the wall."
A shocking defeat to everyone outside Mayo. Most of feared we'd struggle against Cavan. Not one player sounded up for it today and that's on management. McStay's interview on this loss will be another episode in stupidity. The only time they kicked the ball in high to O'Shea he stuck it in the net. We've been asking for the high ball in for years
Looks like a short summer upcoming and ye have nothing to worry about.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 530 - 18/05/2025 16:47:17    2610630

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Replying To yew_tree:  "It's not surprising…I said I wouldn't be surprised if we lost a few posts back but with Cavan injury list and home advantage I thought we might win after a struggle. Donegal don't need to worry about Mayo…we are effectively out of the championship now."
Yes would have thought whatever chance Cavan had was gone with some big players out injured and lost another two during the game.

Only positive for Mayo supporters is so few was in Machale park to witness it

Drax_the_destroyer (UK) - Posts: 456 - 18/05/2025 16:52:05    2610640

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Replying To yew_tree:  "It's not surprising…I said I wouldn't be surprised if we lost a few posts back but with Cavan injury list and home advantage I thought we might win after a struggle. Donegal don't need to worry about Mayo…we are effectively out of the championship now."
Listen I haven't forgotten that super 8 game in Castlebar6 or 7 years ago and won't in a hurry. Ye were under the kosh then and Donegal were flying only to see us succumb in a winner take all group game.

Mayo aren't dead until they're dead.

shaggykev (Donegal) - Posts: 337 - 18/05/2025 18:14:20    2610671

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Replying To Drax_the_destroyer:  "Yes would have thought whatever chance Cavan had was gone with some big players out injured and lost another two during the game.

Only positive for Mayo supporters is so few was in Machale park to witness it"
It also wasn't on tv that was a bonus.

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 530 - 18/05/2025 18:15:22    2610674

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Wonder is it time for Andy Moran??

bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 111 - 18/05/2025 19:52:30    2610730

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Only 7k attendance , I was not there , had to take advantage of this good bog weather. Was listening to Martin Carney decry the refusal of the manager to demand long ball into AOS. At one point he said you would have a better chance of climbing Everest nude than getting mayo to kick ball to ff line! Was the lack of numbers today due to , supporters expecting a routine win, or have they given up on this manager following the loss to Galway or has the cost of living crisis made following the team unsustainable? Is there trouble in the camp? Why did COC , one of the greatest forwards ever walk away? I still think we can get a result v Tyrone.

martinjoe (Mayo) - Posts: 555 - 18/05/2025 21:07:44    2610762

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Congrats to Cavan fully deserved win.
Disappointed with the performance and result but not to surprised with this current Mayo team/setup.
McStay was fortunate to stay on this year, and he had all focus on winning Connacht this year and failed, you could see in interviews after he was deflated and I could tell the rest of year was going to be a struggle.
Mayo are probably the worst coached team out of all division 1 teams anyways and maybe only Roscommon are worse in division 2.
While i think the management team have been extremely poor and they do need to go, the players need to take some of the blame too, there individual performances have been poor standard, and lack real fight and courage.
What ever happens in the next 2 games doesn't really matter as the year is finished and will only prolong the inevitable

tommy132 (Mayo) - Posts: 639 - 18/05/2025 22:44:41    2610804

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Only 7k attendance , I was not there , had to take advantage of this good bog weather. Was listening to Martin Carney decry the refusal of the manager to demand long ball into AOS. At one point he said you would have a better chance of climbing Everest nude than getting mayo to kick ball to ff line! Was the lack of numbers today due to , supporters expecting a routine win, or have they given up on this manager following the loss to Galway or has the cost of living crisis made following the team unsustainable? Is there trouble in the camp? Why did COC , one of the greatest forwards ever walk away? I still think we can get a result v Tyrone."
Don't think so Martinjoe - the game is up for McStay and Roch as I think they have lost the dressing-room. IMO we are going to lose the next 2 games - could be hammerings - and the management team will step down the evening of the Donegal match or soon thereafter.

And history won't be kind to them either. No Connacht championship and we have gone from QF in 2022, QF in 2023, pre-lim QF in 2024 to nothing in 2025.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 358 - 19/05/2025 08:24:43    2610845

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only 7 thousand fans is very disappointing regardless of how poorly the team are performing.

hard to see mcstay staying on unless mayo get to a semi final which seems like a big ask at the moment!

dillontim16 (Armagh) - Posts: 5 - 19/05/2025 11:26:51    2610898

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Only 7k attendance , I was not there , had to take advantage of this good bog weather. Was listening to Martin Carney decry the refusal of the manager to demand long ball into AOS. At one point he said you would have a better chance of climbing Everest nude than getting mayo to kick ball to ff line! Was the lack of numbers today due to , supporters expecting a routine win, or have they given up on this manager following the loss to Galway or has the cost of living crisis made following the team unsustainable? Is there trouble in the camp? Why did COC , one of the greatest forwards ever walk away? I still think we can get a result v Tyrone."
I expected Cavan to win and had a few euro on them. Mayo have generally been poor all year. Just did enough to beat us and something similar with Leitrim. They reached a league final but could easily have got relegated, it was that tight in Div 1. A game with Galway will always bring out the best in you. Mayo are brilliant at playing the "if only
" If only that 2 pointer was allowed, if only that penalty wasn't given. Cavan spotted that you were vulnerable. I like the way Cavan put their trust in a young man as manager and he is doing very well. COC was an excellent player but his race was run, I think the same about the brother. They both suffer injuries very easily. You haven't been able to replace the rest of the old guard. Now that your backs are to the wall you will come out fighting and I expect you will beat Tyrone. It ain't over yet. You could easily get third spot yet. A lot of ball to be played yet

eoinog (Sligo) - Posts: 2110 - 19/05/2025 12:48:25    2610934

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Replying To eoinog:  "I expected Cavan to win and had a few euro on them. Mayo have generally been poor all year. Just did enough to beat us and something similar with Leitrim. They reached a league final but could easily have got relegated, it was that tight in Div 1. A game with Galway will always bring out the best in you. Mayo are brilliant at playing the "if only
" If only that 2 pointer was allowed, if only that penalty wasn't given. Cavan spotted that you were vulnerable. I like the way Cavan put their trust in a young man as manager and he is doing very well. COC was an excellent player but his race was run, I think the same about the brother. They both suffer injuries very easily. You haven't been able to replace the rest of the old guard. Now that your backs are to the wall you will come out fighting and I expect you will beat Tyrone. It ain't over yet. You could easily get third spot yet. A lot of ball to be played yet"
Cavan had a stone wall penalty not given yesterday. Players arm pulled back when shooting on goal clearly hampered the finish

jm25 (Galway) - Posts: 1540 - 19/05/2025 13:20:15    2610951

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Replying To eoinog:  "I expected Cavan to win and had a few euro on them. Mayo have generally been poor all year. Just did enough to beat us and something similar with Leitrim. They reached a league final but could easily have got relegated, it was that tight in Div 1. A game with Galway will always bring out the best in you. Mayo are brilliant at playing the "if only
" If only that 2 pointer was allowed, if only that penalty wasn't given. Cavan spotted that you were vulnerable. I like the way Cavan put their trust in a young man as manager and he is doing very well. COC was an excellent player but his race was run, I think the same about the brother. They both suffer injuries very easily. You haven't been able to replace the rest of the old guard. Now that your backs are to the wall you will come out fighting and I expect you will beat Tyrone. It ain't over yet. You could easily get third spot yet. A lot of ball to be played yet"
You had money on Cavan. I assume you posted your pre match prediction on here in the build up to the game?

TheFlaker (Mayo) - Posts: 8399 - 19/05/2025 13:53:43    2610972

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Replying To shaggykev:  "Listen I haven't forgotten that super 8 game in Castlebar6 or 7 years ago and won't in a hurry. Ye were under the kosh then and Donegal were flying only to see us succumb in a winner take all group game.

Mayo aren't dead until they're dead."
We don't have the calibre of player or management of 6 or 7 years ago. Arguably there's very few teams to have more poorly adapted to the new rules worse than us.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8004 - 19/05/2025 14:14:01    2610982

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Replying To eoinog:  "I expected Cavan to win and had a few euro on them. Mayo have generally been poor all year. Just did enough to beat us and something similar with Leitrim. They reached a league final but could easily have got relegated, it was that tight in Div 1. A game with Galway will always bring out the best in you. Mayo are brilliant at playing the "if only
" If only that 2 pointer was allowed, if only that penalty wasn't given. Cavan spotted that you were vulnerable. I like the way Cavan put their trust in a young man as manager and he is doing very well. COC was an excellent player but his race was run, I think the same about the brother. They both suffer injuries very easily. You haven't been able to replace the rest of the old guard. Now that your backs are to the wall you will come out fighting and I expect you will beat Tyrone. It ain't over yet. You could easily get third spot yet. A lot of ball to be played yet"
Eoinog, I wouldn't back us with your money.

Cbar (Mayo) - Posts: 358 - 19/05/2025 14:33:54    2610991

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You had money on Cavan. I assume you posted your pre match prediction on here in the build up to the game?"
I think Mayo could be in trouble tbh after that defeat.
Away to Tyrone and then Donegal.

McStay looked a broken man after that result.

Hopefully Mayo can turn it around but I cant see it now.

This group and the Dubs group are very tough.
Definitely not evenly spread of quality in each group, but such is the draw I guess.

Fionn (Dublin) - Posts: 4264 - 19/05/2025 14:52:03    2610998

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Replying To eoinog:  "I expected Cavan to win and had a few euro on them. Mayo have generally been poor all year. Just did enough to beat us and something similar with Leitrim. They reached a league final but could easily have got relegated, it was that tight in Div 1. A game with Galway will always bring out the best in you. Mayo are brilliant at playing the "if only
" If only that 2 pointer was allowed, if only that penalty wasn't given. Cavan spotted that you were vulnerable. I like the way Cavan put their trust in a young man as manager and he is doing very well. COC was an excellent player but his race was run, I think the same about the brother. They both suffer injuries very easily. You haven't been able to replace the rest of the old guard. Now that your backs are to the wall you will come out fighting and I expect you will beat Tyrone. It ain't over yet. You could easily get third spot yet. A lot of ball to be played yet"
Fair play Eoinóg. Hope you got Cavan at 11/2.Not only were we poor against Kerry, yerselves, Leitrim and in the Connacht Final, if results were slightltky different on the last day of the league Cavan could have been a Division One team next year and us in Division Two.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 8004 - 19/05/2025 14:57:40    2611001

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Only 7k attendance , I was not there , had to take advantage of this good bog weather. Was listening to Martin Carney decry the refusal of the manager to demand long ball into AOS. At one point he said you would have a better chance of climbing Everest nude than getting mayo to kick ball to ff line! Was the lack of numbers today due to , supporters expecting a routine win, or have they given up on this manager following the loss to Galway or has the cost of living crisis made following the team unsustainable? Is there trouble in the camp? Why did COC , one of the greatest forwards ever walk away? I still think we can get a result v Tyrone."
Not a good mental picture of Martin in my head at all.

Gaa_lover (USA) - Posts: 3627 - 19/05/2025 15:07:08    2611005

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Replying To TheFlaker:  "You had money on Cavan. I assume you posted your pre match prediction on here in the build up to the game?"
You know what they say, that everyone is wise after the event!!

bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 111 - 19/05/2025 15:10:51    2611008

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Replying To martinjoe:  "Only 7k attendance , I was not there , had to take advantage of this good bog weather. Was listening to Martin Carney decry the refusal of the manager to demand long ball into AOS. At one point he said you would have a better chance of climbing Everest nude than getting mayo to kick ball to ff line! Was the lack of numbers today due to , supporters expecting a routine win, or have they given up on this manager following the loss to Galway or has the cost of living crisis made following the team unsustainable? Is there trouble in the camp? Why did COC , one of the greatest forwards ever walk away? I still think we can get a result v Tyrone."
There are a lot of reasons why only 7k turned out.
1. Beach weather - might be the only sunny Sunday all year in Mayo - kids had to go to the beach
2. Cavan (a weakened version of them) was supposed to be a straight forward win at home (nothing to see here) for a top 8 team.
3. Too may matches in a short space of time, with the best two games in the group away, and (had they beaten Cavan) a likely prelim q final also. €30 a ticket for adults every two week (and €100 by the time you add in fuel, sweets/food for the kids etc)
4. Performances to date - I have been bringing my kids (aged 7&9) to Mayo matches since the q final v Dublin in 2023. They have watched as Mayo threw away a lead v Galway () & Dublin, lost to Derry last year. Then I tortured them more making them watch Mayo lose to Dublin, draw with Tyrone and get hammered by Galway in the league, before they finally got to see their first Mayo win V Donegal (their 2nd team). I then brought them to the Connacht final for more torture.
Mayos record in McHale park is so poor, the above is what you get from going to see Mayo in McHale park generally. I's say a lot of families thought it better to go to the beach than torture their kids in McHale park.

As for the other stuff.
There is trouble in the camp - 5 players walking away for this season (not retiring) speaks for itself.
COC always lead the Mayo team in standards as he is the most competitive guy on the panel. He didn't walk away (and not retire) for no reason.
Mayo no longer give it their all in every match - they switch off for long periods and cannot put two good performances back to back. Just like they were in the 2000's. It must be hard for those that are used to high standards to play under a management team that don't hold players to those kind of standards.

On a hot day, playing running football (as highlighted so eloquently by Carney), Mayo delayed their substitutions until they were getting overwhelmed.
Of the starting 6 forwards, only one scored from play before the 70th minute (don't even start on why there was no hooter - there must be only 7 of them in the whole country that get moved around) and no one thought it was a good idea to make a change until the 58th minute.
If your an intercounty forward, playing under these rules and the wind behind you, you would want your hole kicked if you cant get a score in 55mins of football, wind or no wind.

As for adapting to rules, in almost all the games I have been to this year, I have seen some sort of clever innovation from the opposition, but never from Mayo. They have only just got the hang of the 3 point rule in the last month ffs.

Saying all that, its all set up for Mayo to go up to Omagh, throw off the shackles and pull off a win. If they do, its because they will have dumped the current set of tactics. If they stick to the slow handpassing game away to Tyrone and Donegal - both matches will end up in 10 point defeats.

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1400 - 19/05/2025 16:22:45    2611046

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