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Dessie Collins at Rosemount. Galway man living in Rosemount a long time and has been involved previously with underage and juniors. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 07/12/2022 13:35:32 2449757 Link
Just see John Benton has been confirmed at Garrycastle. He managed Caulry to the intermediate title in 2019. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 07/12/2022 13:54:02 2449761 Link
John Benton taking over in Garrycastle. He was over Caulry when they won the intermediate in 2019. Rosemount have someone from in the club I heard but not sure what his name is. anon (None) - Posts: 353 - 07/12/2022 14:14:30 2449765 Link
Replying To Baldy1: "Enda Monaghan staying at Shamrocks" As per Westmeath Independent website today Garrycastle have appointed John Benton. He was manager over Caulry when they last won the intermediate championship mintyfresh (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 07/12/2022 14:37:35 2449767 Link
Replying To Baldy1: "Enda Monaghan staying at Shamrocks" It makes sense for Shamrocks to continue with someone from within. They dont have the talent at Senior level at the moment so retaining Senior status is their lot. No point bringing in someone from outside the Club for that. You need a Club person for that to drum up a bit of passion for that task. Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 602 - 08/12/2022 09:05:19 2449808 Link
I see Roscommon are adapting the same model as Kerry and brining in divisional championship. I'd love this to happen in Westmeath so players from junior and intermediate clubs get to show how good they are. However, at the same time I think we have great championship structures at the moment. What about maybe a knockout championship to be run early in the year? You would have the 12 current senior teams plus 4 divisional teams. Divisional team - Team 1: Team 2: Team 3: Team 4: Rosemount Miltownpass CFCW Multy Tubberclaire St Marys St Pauls Miltown Maryland Kilbeggan Delvin Bun Castledaly St Joesphes Ballycomyle Ballynacarrigy Ballinagore Ballymore St. Malachy's Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 402 - 08/12/2022 12:37:55 2449851 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I see Roscommon are adapting the same model as Kerry and brining in divisional championship. I'd love this to happen in Westmeath so players from junior and intermediate clubs get to show how good they are. However, at the same time I think we have great championship structures at the moment. What about maybe a knockout championship to be run early in the year? You would have the 12 current senior teams plus 4 divisional teams. Divisional team - Team 1: Team 2: Team 3: Team 4: Rosemount Miltownpass CFCW Multy Tubberclaire St Marys St Pauls Miltown Maryland Kilbeggan Delvin Bun Castledaly St Joesphes Ballycomyle Ballynacarrigy Ballinagore Ballymore St. Malachy's" Roscommon has very little hurling to consider in fixture planning. And even still , I bet any money they'll have scrapped it within 2 years. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 08/12/2022 13:45:19 2449867 Link
Looks like Westmeath County Board wish to change the current club championship formats to reduce the number of games. A draft paper has been circulated with EIGHT football options for discussion and even more for hurling. County Convention is on tonight and no doubt it will be discussed but I assume decisions will not be made until 2023 CCC is in place. I guess when you look at the senior and section A, Caulry made the quarter finals with just 3 points - 1 win and 1 draw. 4 out of 6 going through is probably a bit generous. Maybe a shake-up won't do any harm. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 08/12/2022 16:29:33 2449881 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I see Roscommon are adapting the same model as Kerry and brining in divisional championship. I'd love this to happen in Westmeath so players from junior and intermediate clubs get to show how good they are. However, at the same time I think we have great championship structures at the moment. What about maybe a knockout championship to be run early in the year? You would have the 12 current senior teams plus 4 divisional teams. Divisional team - Team 1: Team 2: Team 3: Team 4: Rosemount Miltownpass CFCW Multy Tubberclaire St Marys St Pauls Miltown Maryland Kilbeggan Delvin Bun Castledaly St Joesphes Ballycomyle Ballynacarrigy Ballinagore Ballymore St. Malachy's" Divisional team - Team 1: Rosemount Tubberclaire Castledaly Maryland Team 2: Miltownpass Marys Kilbeggan St Joesphes Ballinagore St. Malachy's Team 3: CFCW St Pauls Delvin Ballycomyle Team 4: Multy Miltown Bun Ballymore Ballynacarrigy Temple56 (Westmeath) - Posts: 402 - 08/12/2022 16:41:49 2449882 Link
Replying To Temple56: "I see Roscommon are adapting the same model as Kerry and brining in divisional championship. I'd love this to happen in Westmeath so players from junior and intermediate clubs get to show how good they are. However, at the same time I think we have great championship structures at the moment. What about maybe a knockout championship to be run early in the year? You would have the 12 current senior teams plus 4 divisional teams. Divisional team - Team 1: Team 2: Team 3: Team 4: Rosemount Miltownpass CFCW Multy Tubberclaire St Marys St Pauls Miltown Maryland Kilbeggan Delvin Bun Castledaly St Joesphes Ballycomyle Ballynacarrigy Ballinagore Ballymore St. Malachy's" Westmeath sent out various options to restructure both championships recently so we hardly need to go adding more games in! Dual players must play nearly 30 games a year. Personally I like the football format we have and don't see a need to change, possibly tweak it to try avoid 'dead rubbers' towards the end. In my opinion the solution to reduce pressure on fixtures and dual players would be to reduce the size of ACFL leagues to 8. No one wants to be playing football in February and would allow teams to go back training later in the year. Wmeath2 (Westmeath) - Posts: 176 - 08/12/2022 21:49:38 2449907 Link
Replying To BigSur: "Looks like Westmeath County Board wish to change the current club championship formats to reduce the number of games. A draft paper has been circulated with EIGHT football options for discussion and even more for hurling. County Convention is on tonight and no doubt it will be discussed but I assume decisions will not be made until 2023 CCC is in place. I guess when you look at the senior and section A, Caulry made the quarter finals with just 3 points - 1 win and 1 draw. 4 out of 6 going through is probably a bit generous. Maybe a shake-up won't do any harm." Interesting. Dual players certainly have a lot of games but, as a football follower primarily, I think for players that are only involved in one team the 5 group games is great. It's probably hard to get that balance right. It's also probably hard to get the balance right between the number of teams coming from the group in the football and avoiding one sided games by mixing the groups. I think the football has been good over the last number of years. Lots of tight games and not many games where both teams have nothing to play for. Is there a link to the outline of the proposals? Would be interested in seeing the options. anon (None) - Posts: 353 - 09/12/2022 10:02:54 2449914 Link
Hopefully the 2020 structure of 4 groups of 3 is not on the table. Groups of 3 a disaster. Not sure a change is needed to be honest. Fixture planning isn't easy ; but players want to play games. jamsie (Westmeath) - Posts: 443 - 09/12/2022 11:48:55 2449938 Link
For once can something that is working not just be left alone. Football in Westmeath is well structured and ran; groups of 3/4 is a brutal format. TigerWoods90 (Westmeath) - Posts: 142 - 09/12/2022 11:56:39 2449944 Link
Paddy Dowdall officially confirmed at lomans tonight. No word on backroom yet. Interesting appointment. Record as a player speaks for itself and should be good news for dual players. BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 11/12/2022 20:46:17 2450142 Link
The Downs - Lar Wall ? Lomans - Paddy Dowdall Kinnegad - Paschal Kellaghan Tyrellspass - Ray Sheridan ? Caulry - Shane Curran Killucan - Stephen Morley Garrycastle - John Benton Shamrocks - Enda Monaghan Athlone - Eoin Jordan ? Tang - Keith Higgins ? Moate - Liam McNeill Shandonagh - Kevin Hickey ? BigSur (Westmeath) - Posts: 1131 - 12/12/2022 14:15:10 2450194 Link
Replying To Wmeath2: "Westmeath sent out various options to restructure both championships recently so we hardly need to go adding more games in! Dual players must play nearly 30 games a year. Personally I like the football format we have and don't see a need to change, possibly tweak it to try avoid 'dead rubbers' towards the end. In my opinion the solution to reduce pressure on fixtures and dual players would be to reduce the size of ACFL leagues to 8. No one wants to be playing football in February and would allow teams to go back training later in the year." 8 games in the League to push out the commencement of the league until March makes sense... and leave the entertaining championship as is Laker1500 (Westmeath) - Posts: 20 - 12/12/2022 15:14:44 2450204 Link
Interesting appointment by Lomans. I would have put Dowdall as more a hurling man than football, he only really played championship games for Lomans & mainly focused on Clonkill. No management experience but I have no doubt he'll get a big bounce from the players. Looks like most clubs have managers sorted for next year, we remain to see if the championship structure will change or not. County board definitely looking to reduce the amount of games so I expect a change in format is coming. Left Full (Westmeath) - Posts: 239 - 12/12/2022 15:18:49 2450206 Link
I'd split the league, every division into groups of 4. Top 1 in each section into the league final, bottom 2 relegated. Finishes the league early so the U19 championships can be ran off before the Senior, intermediate and Junior championships start. This idea of throwing an U19 championship game on the Thursday before a senior championship game is mental. I know of one club who stopped their U19's from playing in their own age grade which definitely should not be allowed happen. AlaRad10 (Westmeath) - Posts: 13 - 12/12/2022 21:15:14 2450251 Link
Anyone see Paudie Clifford's back heeled goal at the weekend for Fossa. Great improv by him at the time but......... Watch it again. Was he not in the square before the ball? Meridian (Westmeath) - Posts: 602 - 13/12/2022 09:21:43 2450260 Link
Replying To AlaRad10: "I'd split the league, every division into groups of 4. Top 1 in each section into the league final, bottom 2 relegated. Finishes the league early so the U19 championships can be ran off before the Senior, intermediate and Junior championships start. This idea of throwing an U19 championship game on the Thursday before a senior championship game is mental. I know of one club who stopped their U19's from playing in their own age grade which definitely should not be allowed happen." I don't think the league has anything to do with the county board wanting to change the format , its purely down to the timeframe to run off the championship. Westmeath has one of the better championship structures, very competitive with teams of a similar standard in each group. It seems to be an irish thing to mess with things that are working. Moorehead (Westmeath) - Posts: 143 - 13/12/2022 10:22:22 2450268 Link