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Replying To BarneyGrant: "That says it all. Generations did not voluntarily build up our association for this sort of nonsense. Let's hope final doesn't clash with some "cultural" event :-)" It's a total joke, sure now that they have the split season can't they aim the concert and cultural events for August and September, or July August and September in PUCs case, I know that doesn't help the residents situation in dublin but I don't know how that's going to go down. Maybe they'll have to take the nuclear option and block up the streets, KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 16/12/2021 11:30:01 2392995 Link
Replying To KingdomBoy1: "It's a total joke, sure now that they have the split season can't they aim the concert and cultural events for August and September, or July August and September in PUCs case, I know that doesn't help the residents situation in dublin but I don't know how that's going to go down. Maybe they'll have to take the nuclear option and block up the streets," DJ the latest to criticise the new scenario. Makes no sense to basically disappear GAA from the sports headlines for half the year. No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 16/12/2021 18:51:39 2393045 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "DJ the latest to criticise the new scenario. Makes no sense to basically disappear GAA from the sports headlines for half the year. No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland." Did you ever play club GAA at adult level or do you ever watch or go to your local club games? If the GAA wasn't already 12 months of the year then it certainly is now. tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 17/12/2021 11:08:18 2393073 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "DJ the latest to criticise the new scenario. Makes no sense to basically disappear GAA from the sports headlines for half the year. No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland." Your clearly not a true GAA person, just a big day junkie. bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 17/12/2021 11:24:18 2393075 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "See Brooks has took over GAAs traditional September in Croke Park. Are residents going to let it happen?" There are two sides to the story id imagine many of the Locals want this because it brings lots of money into Dublin & all that area around Croak Park it brings one of the post popular artists in the World to their own doorsteps for 5 nights, of course the converse is also true locked in your home from maybe 5pm -1am am and perhaps a small element of messing. The GAA & Croak Park are in the business of promoting Gaelic Games so money generated allows them to employ Coaches and better facilities to lure young boys & girls away from other Field Sports. The relationship with Croak Park & the Residents is apparently in fine form nowadays the GAA having spend money on Community projects Handball Alley ect. You cant please every one but IMO we will have thousands from Ireland & all over the World in Dublin with a huge amount of badly needed money pumped into Economy I hope the Locals share in this wealth & enjoy a great occasion. Personally i would love to enjoy 5 free Concerts on my doorstep clooney (Clare) - Posts: 887 - 17/12/2021 12:15:21 2393083 Link
Replying To Saynothing: "See Brooks has took over GAAs traditional September in Croke Park. Are residents going to let it happen?" There are two sides to the story id imagine many of the Locals want this because it brings lots of money into Dublin & all that area around Croak Park it brings one of the post popular artists in the World to their own doorsteps for 5 nights, of course the converse is also true locked in your home from maybe 5pm -1am am and perhaps a small element of messing. The GAA & Croak Park are in the business of promoting Gaelic Games so money generated allows them to employ Coaches and better facilities to lure young boys & girls away from other Field Sports. The relationship with Croak Park & the Residents is apparently in fine form nowadays the GAA having spend money on Community projects Handball Alley ect. You cant please every one but IMO we will have thousands from Ireland & all over the World in Dublin with a huge amount of badly needed money pumped into Economy I hope the Locals share in this wealth & enjoy a great occasion. Personally i would love to enjoy 5 free Concerts on my doorstep clooney (Clare) - Posts: 887 - 17/12/2021 12:32:19 2393085 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "DJ the latest to criticise the new scenario. Makes no sense to basically disappear GAA from the sports headlines for half the year. No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland." The other half are busy supporting their local GAA clubs.... Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1908 - 17/12/2021 12:56:56 2393090 Link
Replying To tiobraid: "Did you ever play club GAA at adult level or do you ever watch or go to your local club games? If the GAA wasn't already 12 months of the year then it certainly is now." Some of you people clearly cannot understand written English. I am referring to the inter-county game. Played until I was 46 and don't ever recall a Dublin club game having to be postponed because the Munster hurling final was on. Indeed, I recall being in Tipp and going to Thurles after watching a junior game. This cult of the club is a nonsense when used as an excuse to reduce the prominence of the game at top level. You'll have clubs full of people who don't play watching the Pool and United in August now. Wake up and smell the coffee wafting from the board room in Dublin 3. BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 17/12/2021 16:59:40 2393109 Link
Replying To BarneyGrant: "DJ the latest to criticise the new scenario. Makes no sense to basically disappear GAA from the sports headlines for half the year. No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland." "No wonder half the country think they're from some kip in England or Scotland" I don't get this. Who are they? Cockney_Cat (UK) - Posts: 2460 - 17/12/2021 20:45:46 2393123 Link
Barney: "You'll have clubs full of people who don't play watching the Pool and United in August now." Maybe so. But on the other hand, if you continue the inter-county season into August and September, you'll have clubs full of people who should be playing at that time of year but who can't play.....because about 30 other club players (and maybe not even one of them from their own club!) won't be available for club action since they'll still be with the county team. Also, if a non-playing club member would prefer to watch soccer on the telly in August instead of going to see their own club play, you'd have to wonder how much of a club person they are anyway. Pikeman96 (Wexford) - Posts: 2244 - 18/12/2021 12:44:16 2393140 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Barney: "You'll have clubs full of people who don't play watching the Pool and United in August now." Maybe so. But on the other hand, if you continue the inter-county season into August and September, you'll have clubs full of people who should be playing at that time of year but who can't play.....because about 30 other club players (and maybe not even one of them from their own club!) won't be available for club action since they'll still be with the county team. Also, if a non-playing club member would prefer to watch soccer on the telly in August instead of going to see their own club play, you'd have to wonder how much of a club person they are anyway." What kills us in Kerry is we have probably a 35 man panel (not 100% on those numbers) but 10 of those lads won't make the match day panel and 15 of them will get no game time, yet those 15 won't be released back to their clubs for some reason. Which I think is wrong, how is it in other counties? KingdomBoy1 (Kerry) - Posts: 14092 - 18/12/2021 13:20:48 2393143 Link
Replying To clooney: "There are two sides to the story id imagine many of the Locals want this because it brings lots of money into Dublin & all that area around Croak Park it brings one of the post popular artists in the World to their own doorsteps for 5 nights, of course the converse is also true locked in your home from maybe 5pm -1am am and perhaps a small element of messing. The GAA & Croak Park are in the business of promoting Gaelic Games so money generated allows them to employ Coaches and better facilities to lure young boys & girls away from other Field Sports. The relationship with Croak Park & the Residents is apparently in fine form nowadays the GAA having spend money on Community projects Handball Alley ect. You cant please every one but IMO we will have thousands from Ireland & all over the World in Dublin with a huge amount of badly needed money pumped into Economy I hope the Locals share in this wealth & enjoy a great occasion. Personally i would love to enjoy 5 free Concerts on my doorstep" If you think it's that great you can come and sit in my mother's garden, front or back your choice, and let me know afterwards what you think but best of luck to you trying to get to the house in the first place Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 74 - 18/12/2021 13:44:26 2393145 Link
Will we ever see the day when county squads remain separate from clubs and counties run their own championships and not be slaves to the intercounty games? If county players want to return to clubs after intercounty season then good for the clubs. A big stumbling block will be clubs with intercounty players being at a disadvantage so getting clubs within a county to agree would be tough. But both county and club players should have a clear plan of their seasons, able to plan for holidays etc. GAA talk about player welfare and burnout. But seem happy to take the gate receipts off the backs of intercounty players sweat from league and championship, have their split season and then off with intercounty players to their clubs training and playing nearly all year round. Sure that's not burnout! GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/12/2021 14:10:32 2393150 Link
Replying To Liffeylad: "If you think it's that great you can come and sit in my mother's garden, front or back your choice, and let me know afterwards what you think but best of luck to you trying to get to the house in the first place" Are the crowds any worse on match days? GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7344 - 18/12/2021 14:13:45 2393151 Link
Replying To Liffeylad: "If you think it's that great you can come and sit in my mother's garden, front or back your choice, and let me know afterwards what you think but best of luck to you trying to get to the house in the first place" That sounds a bit like moving next to an airport and complaining about the fly over noise. Buying property next to a stadium means there will be crowds of people there on certain days of the year. Its sometimes hard to guess what your neighbours on the street will be like before moving in, but crowds of people showing up to Croker would've been common knowledge to all. So what's the issue? SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 18/12/2021 14:36:54 2393155 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "That sounds a bit like moving next to an airport and complaining about the fly over noise. Buying property next to a stadium means there will be crowds of people there on certain days of the year. Its sometimes hard to guess what your neighbours on the street will be like before moving in, but crowds of people showing up to Croker would've been common knowledge to all. So what's the issue?" Very patronising comment saffron. Generation's of families have been living their long before concerts were the main crowds around Croke Park. GAA matches or conferences wouldn't be the issue, it's the over use of Croke Park as concert venues. There a balance to everything and this this the balance has tipped badly. Saynothing (Tyrone) - Posts: 2012 - 18/12/2021 15:52:27 2393165 Link
Replying To Pikeman96: "Barney: "You'll have clubs full of people who don't play watching the Pool and United in August now." Maybe so. But on the other hand, if you continue the inter-county season into August and September, you'll have clubs full of people who should be playing at that time of year but who can't play.....because about 30 other club players (and maybe not even one of them from their own club!) won't be available for club action since they'll still be with the county team. Also, if a non-playing club member would prefer to watch soccer on the telly in August instead of going to see their own club play, you'd have to wonder how much of a club person they are anyway." 95% of club players are in no way put out by the final stages of the championships. It is a totally ridiculous argument to claim that they are. Based on no statistics whatsoever. It's just a slogan. Junior lads complaining that Dublin or Kerry being in an All Ireland final is stopping them playing. Ludicrous. And I've heard all the arguments at meetings. Indeed the worst offenders in regard to finishing even senior championships late have been counties whose inter county season has ended in June or July! BarneyGrant (Dublin) - Posts: 2554 - 18/12/2021 15:53:48 2393166 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "That sounds a bit like moving next to an airport and complaining about the fly over noise. Buying property next to a stadium means there will be crowds of people there on certain days of the year. Its sometimes hard to guess what your neighbours on the street will be like before moving in, but crowds of people showing up to Croker would've been common knowledge to all. So what's the issue?" You're wasting your breath here. Thank god there's a planning process which cuts through this nonsense. You'd sware some residents around Croke Park owned the place. Everyone is free to move at any time. No one is forced to live around Croke Park. Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 844 - 18/12/2021 15:59:42 2393167 Link
Replying To GreenandRed: "Are the crowds any worse on match days?" The matches don't have the same affect. Yes they cause disruption trying to get in and out of the house but at least with the matches you can time the crowds to a degree and it only goes on for a couple of hours but with the concerts it's crowds all day and then we have street closures leading up to the concerts while they are erecting and dismantling stages etc so concerts much more disruptive Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 74 - 18/12/2021 16:49:44 2393172 Link
Replying To SaffronDon: "That sounds a bit like moving next to an airport and complaining about the fly over noise. Buying property next to a stadium means there will be crowds of people there on certain days of the year. Its sometimes hard to guess what your neighbours on the street will be like before moving in, but crowds of people showing up to Croker would've been common knowledge to all. So what's the issue?" The fact that the house has been in the family for over 90 years long before Croke Park ever held concerts. Residents don't have issues with the matches they are not nearly as disruptive Liffeylad (Dublin) - Posts: 74 - 18/12/2021 16:51:46 2393173 Link