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Replying To Skippy2: "Worrying result for Carlow football, a hurling team that picked up the big ball for the 1st time this year 3 weeks ago knocking out one of the favourites. Would never happen in a strong championship. Exciting maybe but lacking quality." It's a sore one for you I know. Are the Eire Og supporters trying to drag everyone down with them?! If YI's aren't winning it must be a poor standard overall etc? Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1674 - 20/09/2025 21:31:09 2636876 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "It's a sore one for you I know. Are the Eire Og supporters trying to drag everyone down with them?! If YI's aren't winning it must be a poor standard overall etc?" I'm sure it's a sore one for any genuine Carlow football supporter, regardless of their club loyalties. Mlr are a HURLING Club. With one eye on leinster club championship. Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 73 - 20/09/2025 22:05:08 2636879 Link
Replying To Onion Breath: "It's a sore one for you I know. Are the Eire Og supporters trying to drag everyone down with them?! If YI's aren't winning it must be a poor standard overall etc?" Well said Onion. Results show where the poorest standard has been. And it's in Tach Asca. DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 31 - 20/09/2025 22:56:51 2636887 Link
Replying To Skippy2: "I'm sure it's a sore one for any genuine Carlow football supporter, regardless of their club loyalties. Mlr are a HURLING Club. With one eye on leinster club championship." How do you reply to such an uneducated comment such as that. Jealous statement based on no facts. Mlr have consistently been producing football teams at minor and u20 level for 5/6 years now that compete at semi final / final stages of A competitions. Just because they are able to manage players from underage to senior in both codes better than any other club deserves to be credited more than knocked! I'd love to know how many of tonight's team were u20 double "A" champions in 2022, and also played in the 2020 minor final when robbed by late penalty decision. Most of those young lads are equally good at football as hurling, they Fitz' brothers, Tim Brennan, Jack Griffith, Evan Kealy, Joyce brothers, Donagh Murphy, have all played inter county football as underage level, and I'm sure there's others. To summarise they're proper dual players, not hurlers, to be admired! Carlowtothecore1 (Carlow) - Posts: 77 - 20/09/2025 23:12:59 2636889 Link
Replying To Skippy2: "I'm sure it's a sore one for any genuine Carlow football supporter, regardless of their club loyalties. Mlr are a HURLING Club. With one eye on leinster club championship." Do you understand the concept of a dual club, Skippy 2? Naomh Eoin once won the hurling and football in the same year. Beat Palatine in the big ball and St Mullins in the small ball. With much the same players. In other counties, the likes of Portlaoise and Slaughtneil have done the same thing. The same year Carlow came second in Division 3 South. Which would be the equivalent of finishing third or fourth in Division 3 now. So we were much better than than we are now. In hurling, we were far weaker. Can't remember exactly which position, but it was mid table in the old Division 3. The reality is that the more dual clubs the better. Do you know what would be Eire Og's best response to this? Register a hurling team over the winter and come out and play both codes next year. Become a genuine GAA club. That would solve a lot of their problems. Right now, the club is more or less idle half the year. Mt Leinster Rangers are a full service, proper GAA club. More power to them. I hope they do the double. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 932 - 21/09/2025 11:46:29 2636904 Link
Given the absolute state of football in Carlow TOWN is it time to consider an amalgamation called Eire Gorm Ceatharlach? OneScallionMan (Carlow) - Posts: 2 - 21/09/2025 11:55:09 2636908 Link
Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "How do you reply to such an uneducated comment such as that. Jealous statement based on no facts. Mlr have consistently been producing football teams at minor and u20 level for 5/6 years now that compete at semi final / final stages of A competitions. Just because they are able to manage players from underage to senior in both codes better than any other club deserves to be credited more than knocked! I'd love to know how many of tonight's team were u20 double "A" champions in 2022, and also played in the 2020 minor final when robbed by late penalty decision. Most of those young lads are equally good at football as hurling, they Fitz' brothers, Tim Brennan, Jack Griffith, Evan Kealy, Joyce brothers, Donagh Murphy, have all played inter county football as underage level, and I'm sure there's others. To summarise they're proper dual players, not hurlers, to be admired!" I'm simply saying mlr had 3 weeks to prepare for championship, EireOg had months. That's surely a cause for concern. Fair play to mlr they'd be a seriously good football team if they trained. Skippy2 (Carlow) - Posts: 73 - 21/09/2025 13:57:08 2636917 Link
Replying To Skippy2: "I'm simply saying mlr had 3 weeks to prepare for championship, EireOg had months. That's surely a cause for concern. Fair play to mlr they'd be a seriously good football team if they trained." I would imagine the concern for you up in Tach Asca should be were all the minors and u20s gone from the last 4/5 years. That's some drop off of talent. Would not blame them not wanting to be involved watching the old guard getting looked after with your A and B teams. As someone said above, that was Turlos team last night that had months to prepare for championship. Perhaps MLR should be given their flowers on what was a well deserved win instead of diminishing there win. Chris has done a brilliant job there in 3 weeks. That should be the story. DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 31 - 21/09/2025 14:22:33 2636920 Link
Judging by how the first half of their IFC game v Clonmore has gone, maybe Eire Og's best chance of staying senior is if their intermediate's go and win their championship! Onion Breath (Carlow) - Posts: 1674 - 21/09/2025 15:36:56 2636923 Link
I think the split season is absolutely killing football in the county. The gap between league and championship is effectively like 2 seasons in one. The reality for most clubs is that their football championship starts in September and ends in September. 3 games and a quarter final or relegation game? It's ridiculous and is doing nothing to develop players. You need atleast 5 games played over a longer period. There is no space to reset if things are going wrong. I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone but it's seriously not working. That's my split season rant done. As for the football I've actually only seen the junior grade so far but what I've seen seems to be poorer than last year in general. Mlr winning last night was a huge shock at senior. I was expecting an 8-10 point eire og win. Have eire og ever been in a relegation final? Not to my memory. It's looking like rathvilly vs palatine again although old leighlin would feel they have a big chance in truth anyone left in it will fancy their chances. Intermediate is probably most interesting again. Ballon are flying. Kildavin clonegal are improving and tullow and eire og can't be ruled out . Balinabranna vs myshal in the relegation game I think Balinabranna will shade that. Junior. Leighlin bridge again look the stand out team. Straight into a semi I actually fancied the cocks to beat them today so a good win for them. Pal 2 are contenders on the other side and you couldn't rule them out likewise kilbride will be hard beaten. Kilbride also have a 2 point threat. Relegation here is between St mullins and o hanrahans. Hopefully o hanrahans can survive here I just can't comprehend them falling to junior b. On a side note. I think tinryland asca and o hanrahans should join up at juvenile from 14s up to 21s. I think for the future of all 3 clubs this is essential. Davits and martins are a great feeder for their adult clubs and I think those 3 clubs would massively gain from their under age players playing division 1 each year Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1729 - 21/09/2025 17:45:23 2636937 Link
Replying To Skippy2: "I'm simply saying mlr had 3 weeks to prepare for championship, EireOg had months. That's surely a cause for concern. Fair play to mlr they'd be a seriously good football team if they trained." Again you see to fail to understand the concept of a dual club. They train far more than Eire Og. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 932 - 21/09/2025 18:28:39 2636942 Link
Replying To Barrowsider: "I think the split season is absolutely killing football in the county. The gap between league and championship is effectively like 2 seasons in one. The reality for most clubs is that their football championship starts in September and ends in September. 3 games and a quarter final or relegation game? It's ridiculous and is doing nothing to develop players. You need atleast 5 games played over a longer period. There is no space to reset if things are going wrong. I'm not trying to make excuses for anyone but it's seriously not working. That's my split season rant done. As for the football I've actually only seen the junior grade so far but what I've seen seems to be poorer than last year in general. Mlr winning last night was a huge shock at senior. I was expecting an 8-10 point eire og win. Have eire og ever been in a relegation final? Not to my memory. It's looking like rathvilly vs palatine again although old leighlin would feel they have a big chance in truth anyone left in it will fancy their chances. Intermediate is probably most interesting again. Ballon are flying. Kildavin clonegal are improving and tullow and eire og can't be ruled out . Balinabranna vs myshal in the relegation game I think Balinabranna will shade that. Junior. Leighlin bridge again look the stand out team. Straight into a semi I actually fancied the cocks to beat them today so a good win for them. Pal 2 are contenders on the other side and you couldn't rule them out likewise kilbride will be hard beaten. Kilbride also have a 2 point threat. Relegation here is between St mullins and o hanrahans. Hopefully o hanrahans can survive here I just can't comprehend them falling to junior b. On a side note. I think tinryland asca and o hanrahans should join up at juvenile from 14s up to 21s. I think for the future of all 3 clubs this is essential. Davits and martins are a great feeder for their adult clubs and I think those 3 clubs would massively gain from their under age players playing division 1 each year" The split season is the greatest idea ever. But clubs need to go dual to feel the real benefits. You have 4 de facto dual clubs in the knock outs of the football (Bagenalstown and MLR actual dual, and Fenagh and Old Leighlin de facto, given most of their players also hurl with Ballinkillen and Naomh Brid). Meanwhile, in the relegation we have two lazy mono clubs: Eire Og and Tinryland. That tells us all we need to know. Barrowsider, pick up your hurl. That will sort out all your issues. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 932 - 21/09/2025 18:33:50 2636943 Link
Replying To CARPS: "The split season is the greatest idea ever. But clubs need to go dual to feel the real benefits. You have 4 de facto dual clubs in the knock outs of the football (Bagenalstown and MLR actual dual, and Fenagh and Old Leighlin de facto, given most of their players also hurl with Ballinkillen and Naomh Brid). Meanwhile, in the relegation we have two lazy mono clubs: Eire Og and Tinryland. That tells us all we need to know. Barrowsider, pick up your hurl. That will sort out all your issues." We have a split season so st mullins can concede 9-15 in a junior football game and they may yet survive Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1729 - 21/09/2025 18:56:28 2636946 Link
Replying To CARPS: "The split season is the greatest idea ever. But clubs need to go dual to feel the real benefits. You have 4 de facto dual clubs in the knock outs of the football (Bagenalstown and MLR actual dual, and Fenagh and Old Leighlin de facto, given most of their players also hurl with Ballinkillen and Naomh Brid). Meanwhile, in the relegation we have two lazy mono clubs: Eire Og and Tinryland. That tells us all we need to know. Barrowsider, pick up your hurl. That will sort out all your issues." Interesting stats Carps. When you put it like that, it seems like a no brainer....and I agree with you about the dual season. It's just not being applied properly by certain clubs. Was talking to someone who was at NCP for both games. Dire was what I was told and it's no wonder why. Perhaps the 3 current county u20s sitting on the Eire Og B bench or the former minors sitting on the Tinryland bench would have a more fruitful summer playing some small ball instead of sitting in line behind the "established/old" players.... DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 31 - 21/09/2025 20:04:26 2636959 Link
Replying To Barrowsider: "We have a split season so st mullins can concede 9-15 in a junior football game and they may yet survive" Barrowsider, that's a strawman. St. Mullins conceding 9-15 isn't proof the split season is broken... it's just proof they don't care about football. That's a choice, not a structural flaw. The real test is the clubs who are invested. MLR, Bagenalstown, Fenagh/Ballinkillen, Old Leighlin/Naomh Bríd... all showing the split season works when you buy in. Singling out one club that isn't bothering doesn't knock the argument, it just proves there's a difference between disinterest and genuine dual commitment. As I said, pick up your hurl and let's march together to the sunlit uplands. And quit the moaning. The split season is a wonderful thing. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 932 - 21/09/2025 20:20:22 2636963 Link
Replying To DolmenDave: "Interesting stats Carps. When you put it like that, it seems like a no brainer....and I agree with you about the dual season. It's just not being applied properly by certain clubs. Was talking to someone who was at NCP for both games. Dire was what I was told and it's no wonder why. Perhaps the 3 current county u20s sitting on the Eire Og B bench or the former minors sitting on the Tinryland bench would have a more fruitful summer playing some small ball instead of sitting in line behind the "established/old" players...." Or the current county u20s sitting on the Eire Og B bench could look at moving to O'Hanrahan's. They seem to be a bit stuck for quality players right now. Or Asca. I've posted before that I think Carlow town needs to spread players around better. A lot of lads are getting disenchanted at Eire Og. There's too many youngsters being sucked up by one club. This is not an anti-Eire Og thing. I have a lot of respect for Eire Og, and I would have known pretty much all the founding members. CARPS (Carlow) - Posts: 932 - 21/09/2025 21:12:36 2636977 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Barrowsider, that's a strawman. St. Mullins conceding 9-15 isn't proof the split season is broken... it's just proof they don't care about football. That's a choice, not a structural flaw. The real test is the clubs who are invested. MLR, Bagenalstown, Fenagh/Ballinkillen, Old Leighlin/Naomh Bríd... all showing the split season works when you buy in. Singling out one club that isn't bothering doesn't knock the argument, it just proves there's a difference between disinterest and genuine dual commitment. As I said, pick up your hurl and let's march together to the sunlit uplands. And quit the moaning. The split season is a wonderful thing." You're talking nonsense. BAGENALSTOWN more or less conceded the hurling before it began.Their best players were in USA.You think it's fair to ask amateur players to play more or less 10 weeks in a row and leave them idle the entire summer.Its bizarre. Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 398 - 21/09/2025 21:55:21 2636985 Link
Replying To CARPS: "Or the current county u20s sitting on the Eire Og B bench could look at moving to O'Hanrahan's. They seem to be a bit stuck for quality players right now. Or Asca. I've posted before that I think Carlow town needs to spread players around better. A lot of lads are getting disenchanted at Eire Og. There's too many youngsters being sucked up by one club. This is not an anti-Eire Og thing. I have a lot of respect for Eire Og, and I would have known pretty much all the founding members." Why stay in town ? We would take them down here in a heartbeat!!! All joking aside, if we are looking at boosting Carlow as a county, why should young chaps who play county have to be sitting on a bench not playing football ? The parish boundaries are long gone in town. And as I've said before I don't think Eire Og are the main culprits anymore. The out of town team that is really a town team is the main culprit these days. For us anyway. But thinking of the greater carlow good, it's not great when lads can't get play on a B team when they could start on a A team elsewhere. I would imagine some of these chaps would be disenchanted alright. Look at whats happened Eire Og seniors this year. Afraid to blood young chaps. And then we as county lose them. And then we as a county complain about being division 4. Our own worst enemy as usual DolmenDave (Carlow) - Posts: 31 - 21/09/2025 22:44:32 2636988 Link
So far in any championship is there any players that have caught your eye that may be an addition to the county team? Ceatharlach7000 (Carlow) - Posts: 13 - 22/09/2025 00:27:03 2636993 Link
Worth noting that with fenagh staying up this must be first intermediate team in a decade that has stayed up open to correction on this. Fantastic to see and gives great hope to teams coming up that they can stay up hopefully they can continue to build abd spend a few years at this level need more teams competing. MLR showed again that they really don't care who they play in a must win game there a match for anyone throw in only 3 weeks of football for them also a massive result. Relegation final will be massive game for both clubs out of curiosity with eire ogs second team being intermediate can they go down if they lose or would all eire og teams drop down a level as a result ITSCHOLAR (Carlow) - Posts: 316 - 22/09/2025 08:09:05 2637000 Link