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Replying To SofaSupporter: "Anybody know how minor/20's hurlers are going? Seems to be a lot more info on footballers at the minute" Minor hurlers flying it apparently. Quiet confidence in the group. Good coaches there too. No idea about 20s hurling or football.
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Replying To Bracker1984: "Nobody's looking for an argument here S squared. There was an U16 who hasn't had a look in all year came on in the second half and shone is what I heard. So why hasn't he had a look in until now ? Anyone outside of the Carlow town clubs would know why. And that was my original point. The proof is in the pudding. 0-7 conceded today, 6-8 and 6-14 the past two games...speaks for itself..." Fair play,bracker
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 318 - 24/02/2025 00:49:23
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Replying To CARPS: "Years ago, I'd have said - "you're wrong. How dare you." But maybe you're not a million miles off. That's essentially what the hurlers are doing. A very tightly knit team, based on two clubs.
Carlow football is in a very bad place right now. I wonder is there any logic in trying to shepherd all the best players into the SFC using area teams? Same idea with underage grades. And then pulling county teams out of it?
Again, I point out that Carlow is almost unique in that one town is half the county's population. Look at underage... the two town clubs (EO and Pal) dominate in every grade. That's not by accident.
(and, yes, Palatine, are now a town club)." Palatine are not a Town club.
Carlowbushultra2021 (Carlow) - Posts: 7 - 25/02/2025 15:38:08
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Replying To CARPS: "Years ago, I'd have said - "you're wrong. How dare you." But maybe you're not a million miles off. That's essentially what the hurlers are doing. A very tightly knit team, based on two clubs.
Carlow football is in a very bad place right now. I wonder is there any logic in trying to shepherd all the best players into the SFC using area teams? Same idea with underage grades. And then pulling county teams out of it?
Again, I point out that Carlow is almost unique in that one town is half the county's population. Look at underage... the two town clubs (EO and Pal) dominate in every grade. That's not by accident.
(and, yes, Palatine, are now a town club)." Is cake gone???
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Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "Is cake gone???" Couple of slices left.
Overthebar53 (Carlow) - Posts: 318 - 25/02/2025 19:40:10
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Replying To Overthebar53: "Couple of slices left." I hope we kept the receipt
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Replying To Bimb: "I hope we kept the receipt" Cake gone??
I wouldn't think so, but unfortunately the news from within the football camp is not encouraging.
Seems like players are not responding to him.
Hopefully he gets more time and hold on to the players he has.
Still some injuries to clear up.
Clarke. Sean Murphy Piri. Mickey suspended.
League is gone but let's prepare for championship
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Replying To novalis: "Cake gone??
I wouldn't think so, but unfortunately the news from within the football camp is not encouraging.
Seems like players are not responding to him.
Hopefully he gets more time and hold on to the players he has.
Still some injuries to clear up.
Clarke. Sean Murphy Piri. Mickey suspended.
League is gone but let's prepare for championship" Its like deja vous all over again
Bimb (Carlow) - Posts: 490 - 25/02/2025 21:46:29
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Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "Is cake gone???" Can't say if he is gone but 3 players walked from the panel after the game Saturday night
carlo (Carlow) - Posts: 243 - 25/02/2025 21:50:00
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Replying To novalis: "Cake gone??
I wouldn't think so, but unfortunately the news from within the football camp is not encouraging.
Seems like players are not responding to him.
Hopefully he gets more time and hold on to the players he has.
Still some injuries to clear up.
Clarke. Sean Murphy Piri. Mickey suspended.
League is gone but let's prepare for championship" Amateur again within the county board, players have left the panel, a coach has also stepped away. Its a farce within the county board and the management team. A player told to warm up and get ready to go on at the weekend only for the manager to realise he already used all his subs. laughable really.
Milfordwaterboy (Carlow) - Posts: 9 - 26/02/2025 09:19:40
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Haven't commented much on the senior football team but it didn't look like a great set up from the start. Still it's not much different results wise from recent years so no great surprises
Barrowsider (Carlow) - Posts: 1693 - 26/02/2025 09:55:43
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Time to put our resources into the hurling team and give over with this farce with inter county football
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As a lifelong supporter of Carlow GAA, it's frustrating to see us stuck in the lower divisions year after year. While other counties with similar resources are making stride, we seem to lack the ambition needed to progress. I want to raise a few concerns that many supporters have been discussing privately for too long
1. Crest & Identity
Our county crest should be more than just a generic design with a few decorative elements. It should reflect Carlow's rich history, culture and identity - something players and supporters can take pride in. Many counties have modernized their crest while maintaining a strong connection to their heritage. Why haven't we?
2. Team Selection & Performance Standards
Selection decisions should be based on merit, not reputation or external influences. Yet, we see key players being dropped while others who consistently underperform are retained. A particular concern is the goalkeeper position, where repeated poor performances haven't been addressed. Any player competing at this level should be open to fair scrutiny, just like an outfield player who isn't performing. The silence from certain media figures only adds to the perception that some players are being shielded from accountability.
3. Players Being Dropped & Played Out of Position
Recently, some of Carlow's most recognizable names - players who have given years of service and still have plenty to offer - have been dropped without any clear reasoning.
Meanwhile, others are being played out of position, weakening the team instead of strengthening it. These decisions raise serious questions about team management and whether selections are being made for political reasons rather than performance.
Ultimately, paying supporters deserve a team that is picked on form, not favoritism. We deserve a county board and management that strive for progress, not just survival. What's the long -term vision for Carlow football? Or are we content to keep repeating the same mistakes?
Would love to hear other views on this. Are we asking the right questions?
Salmon_of_Knowledge (Carlow) - Posts: 4 - 26/02/2025 13:18:26
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I think for Carlow to firmly move forward and progress a lot of honestly and soul searching has to come into play. Bar a year in Division 3 under O'Brien and a handful of championship wins in a decade there has to be an acceptance within the county that your footballers are exactly where they deserve to be.
The last excellent group of players Carlow had at underage level was in 2007. A number of said players formed the spine of the Carlow team for the best part of a decade. Along with Danny Moran, Sean Gannon, Darragh Foley et al.
Why continue pumping huge resources and money into the senior team? Why not pump the majority of your counties recourses into your underage sides from S&C, sports science/injury prevention, coach development, professional structures that can give players something to aspire to once they reach adult level?
It's why I was always astounded as to why clubs are prepared to shell out anything from €15,000 to €25,000 + per year on some big name to coach their senior side. When you look down through their underage sides with parent volunteers, often many not being able to coach and being given no guidance. Underage coaches barely having enough bibs or cones or balls, yet the senior side who haven't won a Championship in 40 years get treated like royalty.
If I were the Carlow County Board I'd rather look internally. Blood as many young lads as possible, ignore the results in the short term i.e. 3/4 years and get the basics right. Invest the money saved into your underage teams and also at grassroots level within clubs and watch it come together.
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Replying To Matador: "I think for Carlow to firmly move forward and progress a lot of honestly and soul searching has to come into play. Bar a year in Division 3 under O'Brien and a handful of championship wins in a decade there has to be an acceptance within the county that your footballers are exactly where they deserve to be.
The last excellent group of players Carlow had at underage level was in 2007. A number of said players formed the spine of the Carlow team for the best part of a decade. Along with Danny Moran, Sean Gannon, Darragh Foley et al.
Why continue pumping huge resources and money into the senior team? Why not pump the majority of your counties recourses into your underage sides from S&C, sports science/injury prevention, coach development, professional structures that can give players something to aspire to once they reach adult level?
It's why I was always astounded as to why clubs are prepared to shell out anything from €15,000 to €25,000 + per year on some big name to coach their senior side. When you look down through their underage sides with parent volunteers, often many not being able to coach and being given no guidance. Underage coaches barely having enough bibs or cones or balls, yet the senior side who haven't won a Championship in 40 years get treated like royalty.
If I were the Carlow County Board I'd rather look internally. Blood as many young lads as possible, ignore the results in the short term i.e. 3/4 years and get the basics right. Invest the money saved into your underage teams and also at grassroots level within clubs and watch it come together." Should we not just put sticks in their hand to bate the big ball about. When that's mastered then move them onto the small ball.
We're in a unique location with a historical hurling tradition even in our county town, and 2nd town, Bagenalstown. Why not focus on the greatest game on earth..
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Replying To Carlowtothecore1: "Should we not just put sticks in their hand to bate the big ball about. When that's mastered then move them onto the small ball.
We're in a unique location with a historical hurling tradition even in our county town, and 2nd town, Bagenalstown. Why not focus on the greatest game on earth.." Great point Carlowtothecore1, it must of taken all of what? 5 seconds to post a pointless and utterly nonsensical piece of drivel.
Despite the recent success of the Carlow Hurlers (phenomenal group of players) you're still very seen as a Footballing county. Far bigger playing pool of players, far more clubs, greater interest etc yet the footballers are very much the poor relations within the county and on the national stage.
How many more years of mediocrity are going to pass without something serious being done to stop the rot once and for all? Surely some action needs to be taken.
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Disappointing to hear 3 lads gone from the panel. I don't know the ins & outs but it's only February, bit early to be walking away. It seems a common thing in Carlow football over the years to drop off the panel. Doesn't seem to happen in the hurling. If things are going well the easy thing is to drop off. Even if we're going bad you should still be proud to play for your county. Fellas would never drop off their club panel & never go back but they would with their county. People are as much from their county as they are their clubs
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Replying To fergie: "Disappointing to hear 3 lads gone from the panel. I don't know the ins & outs but it's only February, bit early to be walking away. It seems a common thing in Carlow football over the years to drop off the panel. Doesn't seem to happen in the hurling. If things are going well the easy thing is to drop off. Even if we're going bad you should still be proud to play for your county. Fellas would never drop off their club panel & never go back but they would with their county. People are as much from their county as they are their clubs" Apparently more than 3 gone from the panel, closer to 10 and a selector!
Carlowrising (Carlow) - Posts: 160 - 27/02/2025 09:25:20
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Replying To Carlowrising: "Apparently more than 3 gone from the panel, closer to 10 and a selector!" Sad to read of lads leaving panels etc. From my experience, when players leave, for whatever reason, they don't always come back - even when regimes change. Being on a county panel demands huge commitment and when players have bought in once, then drop out, they are not always too keen to get back in to that particular groove.
Freethinker (Wicklow) - Posts: 1450 - 27/02/2025 11:04:08
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Replying To Carlowrising: "Apparently more than 3 gone from the panel, closer to 10 and a selector!" Maybe better in the long term to lance the boil now. Several people here were always very dubious about this appointment and it appears they have been proven correct albeit earlier than even the most pessimistic of us expected. If these rumours are even partially true it's time to end this charade and try and get someone genuine in for championship/tailteann cup.
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