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Replying To sam2024:  "As I said earlier, let the authorities sort out the issues as they will sit down & investigate everything properly. Expect a couple of players to face bans including, possibly, a player for using sectarian language. That is an unseen plague on our game for years and it is not ok.
A number of counties / players are on the end of this quite regularly unfortunately.
We, as gaels, should be discussing the football here really and celebrating a brilliant game between the Ulster & AI champions - great times for both counties."
It's easy to make allegations, especially when you don't have to back it up.
Anyway, it looks like Armagh, yet again, are going to escape without a single ban. What a surprise.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 148 - 13/05/2025 08:19:39    2609061

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Replying To themaddog:  "It's easy to make allegations, especially when you don't have to back it up.
Anyway, it looks like Armagh, yet again, are going to escape without a single ban. What a surprise."
If Armagh player should get a ban so should the Donegal player for starting it . He had it coming I'm not justifying the Armagh players actions at all was awful to see .

But don't taunt the opposition in front of their own dug out at final whistle after such a high intensity match when emotions all over the place . Like what do you expect to happen !

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 151 - 13/05/2025 08:53:24    2609068

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Replying To themaddog:  "It's easy to make allegations, especially when you don't have to back it up.
Anyway, it looks like Armagh, yet again, are going to escape without a single ban. What a surprise."
Just taking my information from a prominent newspaper last night - no allegations from me. The brilliant game and fantastic atmosphere were the winners for me, not the trash that has been thrown around the media.

sam2024 (Armagh) - Posts: 50 - 13/05/2025 09:03:44    2609071

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "That's total nonsense to be honest. That's a bit like saying if I go out on the street and pull a face at you, you and your mates have the right to physically assault me and it's all good. Think about that for a minute. It's all fine coming on here talking the hard man and chatting about big boy pants but it wouldn't be okay on the street legally so why is it okay on the pitch."
You're not comparing apples with apples there at all. And it's nothing to do with being the "hard man" I simply said that if a lad is acting that way then he has to deal with whatever comes his way. I also said I don't condone the Armagh reaction but I'm also not surprised by it. I've said emotions are on a knife edge directly after the final whistle. You throw petrol on a flame then you just might get burned.

TrueBlue35 (Dublin) - Posts: 243 - 13/05/2025 09:09:07    2609075

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Replying To tribesman123:  "Congrats to Donegal, back to back Ulster champs is some achievement. Murphy showed why he is the best player of our generation.

Armagh showed their true colours after the whistle blew, they're a disgrace. Have to laugh at the posts here saying the Donegal lad was goading him - as if the Armagh lads don't do this! Butter wouldn't melt

These incidents (plural) will be ignored as long as there is an Armagh man acting as president - in reality there should be 6 month bans being handed out to stamp this out once and for all."
That's funny coming from a Galway one . Armagh are not a disgrace still feeling a bit sore after last years final are we?

Are you saying if that was Donegal taunting a Galway player at final whistle of a big match you wouldn't do the same? As if .

Sure you and the Rossies were fighting and PJ had to separate you . It happens with all teams and mayo are no angles either .

But if your going to taunt players like that you get what's coming not justifying it but what did he expect to happen.

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 151 - 13/05/2025 09:16:13    2609076

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Replying To cds:  "I do think donegal probably have armaghs number. Well maybe jim has mcgeeney number don't think geezer has ever beat him. Tbf the only actual ful blown games between armagh and donegal have been the 2 ulster finals. Yous won by 1 which I feel another day some of our goals go in an different game. But equally doesn't mean we win as we could rest on our laurels like yous done. I just think there isn't anything between the teams. The rest of the games 3 league games an div 2 final was shadow boxing. Just my view..."
I'd agree with you there. There is nothing between Galway, yourselves and ourselves at the moment if everyone is fit and available. Kerry could be in there with their calibre of player but it's hard to know until they are properly tested which isn't looking like to a QF or SF. Tyrone are my dark horse, I think they will have a big say yet. What a summer of football we have ahead of us. I'm giddy just thinking about it

peiledoir20 (Donegal) - Posts: 1200 - 13/05/2025 09:23:58    2609078

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Replying To S1234:  "That's funny coming from a Galway one . Armagh are not a disgrace still feeling a bit sore after last years final are we?

Are you saying if that was Donegal taunting a Galway player at final whistle of a big match you wouldn't do the same? As if .

Sure you and the Rossies were fighting and PJ had to separate you . It happens with all teams and mayo are no angles either .

But if your going to taunt players like that you get what's coming not justifying it but what did he expect to happen."
Yes emotions were running high at the end, as they were during the match itself when one or two Armagh players were doing similar.. Or a pile of other Donegal players wading in to have their say. How often does it have to happen, or perhaps a better question - how badly is someone going to be assaulted before Armagh are properly punished? Like others have said, you can probably list 5 other simialr instances off the top of your head.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9764 - 13/05/2025 09:46:22    2609083

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Replying To sam2024:  "Just taking my information from a prominent newspaper last night - no allegations from me. The brilliant game and fantastic atmosphere were the winners for me, not the trash that has been thrown around the media."
That's ironic coming from someone throwing the trash.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 148 - 13/05/2025 09:52:37    2609087

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It's funny how many posters are coming here to lay the blame on the Donegal player when he still didn't strike anyone.

If he was goading the player during the game, the most the ref could give him is a black card
Striking a player is a serious red card offence that usually carries a hefty ban.

It's that simple in terms of wrongs.

The shifting of the blame narrative is laughable. Quoting rumours and hearsay and 'If you heard what I heard he said' kinda speculation **** that's all about deflecting away from lads punching another player - that everyone can see happened - not speculation.

So although the Donegal player was wrong to goad... it's not the same as a physical assault. At any time. On the pitch, or off the pitch.

Enough of the whataboutery.

Al_Maguire (Donegal) - Posts: 263 - 13/05/2025 09:56:48    2609092

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Replying To Donegal_abroad:  "That's total nonsense to be honest. That's a bit like saying if I go out on the street and pull a face at you, you and your mates have the right to physically assault me and it's all good. Think about that for a minute. It's all fine coming on here talking the hard man and chatting about big boy pants but it wouldn't be okay on the street legally so why is it okay on the pitch."
If as reported in the media that is was sectarian abuse, it is more than just pulling a face, which is not ok on the street legally either.

FullOfPorter (Roscommon) - Posts: 93 - 13/05/2025 10:06:30    2609100

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Replying To FullOfPorter:  "If as reported in the media that is was sectarian abuse, it is more than just pulling a face, which is not ok on the street legally either."
Where has that been reported? Can you provide a link please.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 148 - 13/05/2025 10:24:16    2609111

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Replying To themaddog:  "That's ironic coming from someone throwing the trash."
Zero thrash in any of my posts as a mature adult. Take note.

sam2024 (Armagh) - Posts: 50 - 13/05/2025 10:26:38    2609113

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Yes emotions were running high at the end, as they were during the match itself when one or two Armagh players were doing similar.. Or a pile of other Donegal players wading in to have their say. How often does it have to happen, or perhaps a better question - how badly is someone going to be assaulted before Armagh are properly punished? Like others have said, you can probably list 5 other simialr instances off the top of your head."
The aftermath of the brilliant game was very unsavory Lockjaw for sure. I think we've always had our players punished for misdemeanors and rightly so, as have your players. I'm not sure what you mean in your post - can you point out where there hasn't been sanctions over an above your own opinion?
For the record, I actually thought Saturday's match was a very clean and honest affair right to the final whistle.
Discipline is so key to success at this level. Our discipline last year was exemplary - I don't think we even had a black card all season. We definitely need to improve that this season if we want the top prize again this year.

sam2024 (Armagh) - Posts: 50 - 13/05/2025 10:34:08    2609116

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Replying To themaddog:  "Where has that been reported? Can you provide a link please."
Irish News this evening:

"In addition, the GAA is committed to the principles of inclusion and will investigate claims that language of a sectarian nature was used during the incident."

ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 45 - 13/05/2025 10:54:40    2609125

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I don't know what people expect here, the GAA as a whole has a disciplinary problem where even when punishments are handed out, they are appealed and inevitably overturned on technicalities. I guarantee that if any bans were handed out, whether to the Donegal player for goading or for Armagh players for reacting, there would be an appeal and the bans would not be held up. There is a significant culture issue within the GAA with this stuff.

I also don't like seeing comments about how Armagh are always involved. While of course there have been high profile incidents with Armagh involved down through the years, I feel like people focussing in on them makes it an "easy fix", where in reality this nonsense plagues the game up and down the country.

And on the specifics with Armagh, and to a lesser extent Tyrone from the 00's period, I do think there is a significant element of "them nordies" from a lot of the commentary when these things crop up. At the end of the day our boys are no angels and like Lockjaw says you don't win anything with 15 choir boys. There was a war down in Tralee in a league match a few years ago and one of our lads was reported to have done something that was really really nasty to a Kerry player. Does that mean there is something "in" Donegal people causing rows? Not at all, and pretending like this is an Armagh-specific problem just means you have the blinkers on in my view.

Anyway as mentioned by others it's disappointing that people are talking about this rather than the football that was on show. One of the greatest matches I've ever attended. The best Ulster final ever?

CCFabu (Donegal) - Posts: 175 - 13/05/2025 10:57:45    2609131

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Replying To sam2024:  "The aftermath of the brilliant game was very unsavory Lockjaw for sure. I think we've always had our players punished for misdemeanors and rightly so, as have your players. I'm not sure what you mean in your post - can you point out where there hasn't been sanctions over an above your own opinion?
For the record, I actually thought Saturday's match was a very clean and honest affair right to the final whistle.
Discipline is so key to success at this level. Our discipline last year was exemplary - I don't think we even had a black card all season. We definitely need to improve that this season if we want the top prize again this year."
Connaire Mackin got suspended for stamping on Glass in the Derry game did he not?

WeGoAgain (Donegal) - Posts: 66 - 13/05/2025 11:03:38    2609134

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Replying To sam2024:  "Zero thrash in any of my posts as a mature adult. Take note."
You have made an unsubstantiated allegation which is based on alleged hearsay. That's throwing trash.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 148 - 13/05/2025 11:04:06    2609135

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Replying To sam2024:  "The aftermath of the brilliant game was very unsavory Lockjaw for sure. I think we've always had our players punished for misdemeanors and rightly so, as have your players. I'm not sure what you mean in your post - can you point out where there hasn't been sanctions over an above your own opinion?
For the record, I actually thought Saturday's match was a very clean and honest affair right to the final whistle.
Discipline is so key to success at this level. Our discipline last year was exemplary - I don't think we even had a black card all season. We definitely need to improve that this season if we want the top prize again this year."
To clarify, I'm not suggesting that Donegal are whiter than white. How many brawls does it take for the penny to drop with Armagh though? Yes they have been sanctioned in the past for similar, but has it made any difference? You'd have to say no, all things considered. Therefore the logical conclusion would be to increase the severity of the sanction. Will that happen? Unlikely.

Look I'm no pearl clutcher or woke, or whatever else. But you're talking about big. supremely conditioned men throwing haymakers and headlocking people. Only a matter of time before one of these "only a melee, nothing really to see here" results in someone suffering a terrible consequence.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9764 - 13/05/2025 11:17:22    2609138

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "To clarify, I'm not suggesting that Donegal are whiter than white. How many brawls does it take for the penny to drop with Armagh though? Yes they have been sanctioned in the past for similar, but has it made any difference? You'd have to say no, all things considered. Therefore the logical conclusion would be to increase the severity of the sanction. Will that happen? Unlikely.

Look I'm no pearl clutcher or woke, or whatever else. But you're talking about big. supremely conditioned men throwing haymakers and headlocking people. Only a matter of time before one of these "only a melee, nothing really to see here" results in someone suffering a terrible consequence."
And to further clarify, like my Gaeltacht friend CCF has mentioned, my point wasn't solely aimed at Armagh. They have just been the most high profile culprits. There's no doubt other counties have had similar skirmishes.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9764 - 13/05/2025 11:30:13    2609145

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Replying To ArmaghAndProud:  "Irish News this evening:

"In addition, the GAA is committed to the principles of inclusion and will investigate claims that language of a sectarian nature was used during the incident.""
At the moment it's a claim, nothing more. I'm glad that has been clarified. Let's see what comes of that claim.

themaddog (Wicklow) - Posts: 148 - 13/05/2025 11:55:55    2609158

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