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You mean each team play each other twice home and away? Or home and away on alternate years?

bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 216 - 06/08/2025 12:17:52    2630264

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How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin.

onthebog (Leitrim) - Posts: 9 - 06/08/2025 20:24:36    2630319

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Replying To IronSleeve:  "Absolutely. Scrap spring league and make actual league home and away. Align league with championship and seed the higher ranked league teams."
I could get behind this, as long as it's wrapped up before championship starts, with perhaps exception of the league finals. However I don't think it would come to pass, some clubs will object to having to play half their league without their county players.

gaelsboy (Leitrim) - Posts: 669 - 06/08/2025 21:19:16    2630333

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Replying To onthebog:  "How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin."
When more than 2 teams finish with the same points it is down to scoring difference.Thiat is why Ballinaglera lost out.

joeman123 (Leitrim) - Posts: 593 - 06/08/2025 21:59:10    2630340

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Replying To onthebog:  "How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin."
If two teams finish level on points then head to head between those two teams is the decider, this is what happened in Aughavas' and Eslin's case.

However if more than two teams finish level on points then overall score difference throughout the league is the decider which is what happened in Ballinaglera's case.

leitrim4sam (Leitrim) - Posts: 702 - 06/08/2025 23:01:33    2630346

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Replying To onthebog:  "How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin."
Those two examples were two-way ties, so that were resolved on the heat to head. But Drumkeerin, Gortletteragh, Dromohair and Ballinaglera were all tied on 6 points, so it skipped head to head and was decided on overall goal difference.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1214 - 07/08/2025 07:41:15    2630364

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Replying To onthebog:  "How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin."
Comes down to scoring difference if more than 2 teams finish on the same amount of points. If 2 teams finish on same points, it goes on the head to head

anklesockhater (Leitrim) - Posts: 10 - 07/08/2025 08:47:11    2630365

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Replying To anklesockhater:  "Comes down to scoring difference if more than 2 teams finish on the same amount of points. If 2 teams finish on same points, it goes on the head to head"
Not that it matters, but if its scoring difference, shouldnt Dromahair be placed above Gortletteragh in table.

onthebog (Leitrim) - Posts: 9 - 07/08/2025 10:45:29    2630378

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Replying To onthebog:  "Not that it matters, but if its scoring difference, shouldnt Dromahair be placed above Gortletteragh in table."
Correct. I dunno what's going on there with their table.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1214 - 07/08/2025 11:31:53    2630389

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Some interesting opinions there on the league. I'm not exactly sure of the point of the spring league; it seems like a Mickey Mouse thing to me with no prestige at all. Can't exactly imagine songs being sung about the heroes who won the Spring League in any given year.

Backheel: "Can the league not be split leaving the championship to be played in the summer and final rounds post championship." They used to do this; the excellent archive of games on the Leitrim GAA website (which beats other counties' ones out the gate) shows that the 2004 Division 1A(!) had six rounds of games played between the end of March and the end of May, before resuming in October with the final in December 5th. They could do that again and do away with the need for a Spring League.

IronSleeve: "Scrap spring league and make actual league home and away. Align league with championship and seed the higher ranked league teams." Home and away might work ok, especially with only eight teams on reach league. You'd have 14 games though, I wonder would that be a bit too much? You could get inventive though; after 7 games, you could split the table in two and get the top four teams to play three more games against each other to decide who makes the final, and the bottom for could do the same to decide relegation. But that's just an idea.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1214 - 07/08/2025 11:32:28    2630390

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Correct. I dunno what's going on there with their table."
If 3+ teams are tied on points the first TB is league points won vs each other i.e. a mini league. Glera only beat one of the other three teams tied on 6pts, whereas the other three all won 2 games against the other three.

Dodgy_Pass (Leitrim) - Posts: 406 - 07/08/2025 13:07:49    2630409

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Replying To onthebog:  "How did gleara end up getting relegated if they had the head to head on dromahair?
Aughavas got promoted with head to head on Annaduff and Eslin got promoted with head to head on Aughnashelin."
According to rule 6.21(5) when teams finish level on points their league order should be decided by;
1. The highest number of league points obtained in the "head to head" games of the teams involved.
2. The highest scoring difference in the "head to head" games.
3. Scores for.

This is a summary, but the appendix of rules continues on for a while and becomes very confusing and complicated. It's very poorly written.

In the games between the teams Drumkeerin, Gortletteragh, Dromahair and Ballinaglera a mini league table would have been:

Drumkeerin 4pts (+7 scoring diff)
Gortletteragh 4pts (-2)
Dromahair 2pts (+4)
Ballinaglera 2pts (-9)

Leitrim2024 (Leitrim) - Posts: 76 - 07/08/2025 13:35:57    2630415

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Replying To Tacaí Liatroma:  "Some interesting opinions there on the league. I'm not exactly sure of the point of the spring league; it seems like a Mickey Mouse thing to me with no prestige at all. Can't exactly imagine songs being sung about the heroes who won the Spring League in any given year.

Backheel: "Can the league not be split leaving the championship to be played in the summer and final rounds post championship." They used to do this; the excellent archive of games on the Leitrim GAA website (which beats other counties' ones out the gate) shows that the 2004 Division 1A(!) had six rounds of games played between the end of March and the end of May, before resuming in October with the final in December 5th. They could do that again and do away with the need for a Spring League.

IronSleeve: "Scrap spring league and make actual league home and away. Align league with championship and seed the higher ranked league teams." Home and away might work ok, especially with only eight teams on reach league. You'd have 14 games though, I wonder would that be a bit too much? You could get inventive though; after 7 games, you could split the table in two and get the top four teams to play three more games against each other to decide who makes the final, and the bottom for could do the same to decide relegation. But that's just an idea."
Fair point. 14 games might be too many and your split table idea would still get rid of spring league. It'd be an improvement on the current set up anyhow.

Not too keen on the league carrying after championship. I think lads are mentally gone at championship end. Getting them back out training would be hard. I (vaguely) remember playing a senior league final in November (many centuries ago) and it felt like a complete anti-climax with hardly anyone at it.

IronSleeve (Leitrim) - Posts: 35 - 07/08/2025 14:06:22    2630420

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We cannot carry on having our club championship being dictated on when Club Connacht Championship will be, Leitrim were knocked out of the championship on the 1st of June and it is another week before championship starts, that is wild. the spring league also has to go it is a waste of time - play the league earlier and if they don't have county players then so be it, give other lads a chance to break into their first teams, championship is where it is at anyhow - in terms of player retention the current system would drive lads away from playing - and it has! our best county player is currently in the US and hats off to him, he deserves it. you start training in Jan, league should be starting mid Feb in my opinion with championship to start 2 weeks from when Leitrim get knocked out of TC, play the remainder of the league afterwards then if needs be as was done in years previous. I don't see why we are so worried about competitive games post club championship when we are currently extremely uncompetitive in Connacht as things stand. the knock effect for senior club championship being so late is that you have lads playing at lower levels playing late into the winter - junior B & C games being played into November, I appreciate these teams are all based on named players for first teams etc but I don't see why these competitions cant be run off earlier - that is my rant finished.

LeitrimBatman (Leitrim) - Posts: 7 - 07/08/2025 14:17:52    2630424

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Are they not streaming the league final on Saturday evening? We seem to be miles behind everyone else when it comes to this

SeanMacDiarmada (Leitrim) - Posts: 421 - 08/08/2025 00:02:34    2630496

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I see Andy Moran is favourite for the mayo job. He will try to win out the competition I think but big question is this. Will his bring his much vaunted coaching staff that he had in Leitrim with him or not?? Does he come as a package?

bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 216 - 08/08/2025 10:56:27    2630522

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Replying To bláthach:  "I see Andy Moran is favourite for the mayo job. He will try to win out the competition I think but big question is this. Will his bring his much vaunted coaching staff that he had in Leitrim with him or not?? Does he come as a package?"
It's Colm Boyle that is on his ticket if he gets it .

S1234 (Mayo) - Posts: 306 - 08/08/2025 14:23:25    2630580

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