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Replying To bláthach: "They could always bring a tanker down to the Shannon there and fill it up and back it onto the pitch- might catch a few fish as well when they are at it to give them a bit of food." Inadvertently probably the closest thing to a bit of sense you have spoken here.
Backheel (Leitrim) - Posts: 204 - 11/06/2025 13:00:50
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Replying To Backheel: "I am talking about underage and the structures or lack of the them provided for player development. I am not going to refer to any individual or position by name. But most people with a real understanding or interest in player development should know what I am talking about. (WUMs generally have only a vague idea about the set up in the county).
Cut back in salaries and provided rehydration and protein to all players post sessions (minimum)
Provide transport to and from training for all players (minimum)
Kerry and Tyrone have catering companies at their centres of excellence to provide proper nutrition to their young players.
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The centre of excellence location has been a thorny issue for people from the north of the county for a long time.
If you think that a players recovery isn't effected by an hour and a half drive after a training session getting home at 11 o clock at night this probably explains why your views are so narrow." So you cannot give any specifics?? Thought as much. Giving out for the sake of it..........seems to be the norm here with some posters. You soapbox yes.
The players DO get food after their sessions- don't be making up stuff and looking for sensationalism. It is quite tiring. Thanks in advance.
bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 11/06/2025 13:33:19
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Replying To Backheel: "Why are you making it an us and them thing. There is a fantastic pitch not being used at St Osnatts how would the clubs in the south of the county react if their young players were brought there 3 times a week to train. Or even split the trading the would be a huge fuss.
In regards to taps it's about providing proper support for the players having stuff there for them ready to go." You're on about me making it an us and them thing and then you proceed to make it an us and them thing!
The current location was done prob for ease of access for eastern seaboard based players as mentioned earlier.
if we had all Leitrim lads based in the county or surrounding ones then a spot between Drumkeeran and Drumshanbo would have been the right spot, alas it cannot be the case.
There's no reason that St Osnat's pitch couldn't be used I'm sure for local training, I'd agree it is silly that young lads have to go that trek three times a week, for what seems like little reward, and at expense too of their own social life and school work.
boxtyburgerbuns (Leitrim) - Posts: 348 - 11/06/2025 13:34:37
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Replying To Backheel: "I am talking about underage and the structures or lack of the them provided for player development. I am not going to refer to any individual or position by name. But most people with a real understanding or interest in player development should know what I am talking about. (WUMs generally have only a vague idea about the set up in the county).
Cut back in salaries and provided rehydration and protein to all players post sessions (minimum)
Provide transport to and from training for all players (minimum)
Kerry and Tyrone have catering companies at their centres of excellence to provide proper nutrition to their young players.
NB
The centre of excellence location has been a thorny issue for people from the north of the county for a long time.
If you think that a players recovery isn't effected by an hour and a half drive after a training session getting home at 11 o clock at night this probably explains why your views are so narrow." No issue with any of the points above however in defence of the centre of excellence, it's the best possible location that caters for the vast majority of clubs in the county in addition to easy access along the N4 for anyone coming from Dublin or even Galway. Yes, someone coming from Kinlough is not going to be best pleased and perhaps Manorhamilton / Dromahair / Glenfarne however for the other 20 clubs, the ground is within 35 mins drive (Aughawillan, Drumkeeran & Ballinaglera clubs being the furthest within that timeframe). As far as I was aware Leitrim GAA were looking to take over the St Osnatt's ground and perhaps in the future it could be developed as facility in the north of the county. However as it stands, the COE is in the best possible location to accommodate the majority of players.
Square_B (Leitrim) - Posts: 1372 - 11/06/2025 15:20:48
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Replying To Backheel: "I am talking about underage and the structures or lack of the them provided for player development. I am not going to refer to any individual or position by name. But most people with a real understanding or interest in player development should know what I am talking about. (WUMs generally have only a vague idea about the set up in the county).
Cut back in salaries and provided rehydration and protein to all players post sessions (minimum)
Provide transport to and from training for all players (minimum)
Kerry and Tyrone have catering companies at their centres of excellence to provide proper nutrition to their young players.
NB
The centre of excellence location has been a thorny issue for people from the north of the county for a long time.
If you think that a players recovery isn't effected by an hour and a half drive after a training session getting home at 11 o clock at night this probably explains why your views are so narrow." You must be a WMU yourself.
The development squads do have a structure.
S and C overseen by the senior S and C coach to ensure continuity.
Players receive more than just football coaching.
If the players should be given all the minimums you've stated should the volunteer coaches that give up their time should be paid?
On a side note, thoughts on 75 players eligible for u20 next season being but on a S and C programme?
anon3 (Mayo) - Posts: 34 - 11/06/2025 21:27:32
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Replying To anon3: "You must be a WMU yourself.
The development squads do have a structure.
S and C overseen by the senior S and C coach to ensure continuity.
Players receive more than just football coaching.
If the players should be given all the minimums you've stated should the volunteer coaches that give up their time should be paid?
On a side note, thoughts on 75 players eligible for u20 next season being but on a S and C programme?" They shouldn't need to be put on a programme,they should be doing it themselves if they have any notion of being a top footballer
masseyferguson (Leitrim) - Posts: 113 - 12/06/2025 10:49:11
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Replying To boxtyburgerbuns: "You're on about me making it an us and them thing and then you proceed to make it an us and them thing!
The current location was done prob for ease of access for eastern seaboard based players as mentioned earlier.
if we had all Leitrim lads based in the county or surrounding ones then a spot between Drumkeeran and Drumshanbo would have been the right spot, alas it cannot be the case.
There's no reason that St Osnat's pitch couldn't be used I'm sure for local training, I'd agree it is silly that young lads have to go that trek three times a week, for what seems like little reward, and at expense too of their own social life and school work." Not st osnatts pitch, it's a community pitch not vested in GAA
totalrecall (Leitrim) - Posts: 1078 - 12/06/2025 11:41:35
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Replying To masseyferguson: "They shouldn't need to be put on a programme,they should be doing it themselves if they have any notion of being a top footballer" Do you not know that some of the posters on here like to blame the hierarchy for not having the "structures" in place for these young lads??? You cannot be talking sense saying they need to take responsibility themselves. These famous "structures" are not easily explained either as nobody can say what they are!!
Wonder what "structures" there were back in the 90's when we had a very good team?? It's absolute nonsense and an excuse for lads not being up to it, or as you said not putting in the work themselves, even when they get a programme!! Can't blame "structures" (whatever they are) for that!!!!
bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 12/06/2025 12:14:50
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Replying To masseyferguson: "They shouldn't need to be put on a programme,they should be doing it themselves if they have any notion of being a top footballer" Absolutely agree!
But at the same time some clubs have absolutely no interest in providing it.
anon3 (Mayo) - Posts: 34 - 12/06/2025 13:32:01
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Replying To bláthach: "Do you not know that some of the posters on here like to blame the hierarchy for not having the "structures" in place for these young lads??? You cannot be talking sense saying they need to take responsibility themselves. These famous "structures" are not easily explained either as nobody can say what they are!!
Wonder what "structures" there were back in the 90's when we had a very good team?? It's absolute nonsense and an excuse for lads not being up to it, or as you said not putting in the work themselves, even when they get a programme!! Can't blame "structures" (whatever they are) for that!!!!" As ever you're being disingenuous. It displays a lack of confidence on your part. In your case it manifests itself as trying to be a smart alec. No doubt that's a legacy of learned behaviour. Ironically, because of a negative experience you had with a prominent figure in your life, you're carrying it forward and trying to project it onto others. You're to be pitied. To make it simple for you to grasp, you're the classic example of monkey see, monkey do.
If you really have to ask what the problems are then you ain't got a clue.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 239 - 12/06/2025 15:45:28
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Replying To bláthach: "Do you not know that some of the posters on here like to blame the hierarchy for not having the "structures" in place for these young lads??? You cannot be talking sense saying they need to take responsibility themselves. These famous "structures" are not easily explained either as nobody can say what they are!!
Wonder what "structures" there were back in the 90's when we had a very good team?? It's absolute nonsense and an excuse for lads not being up to it, or as you said not putting in the work themselves, even when they get a programme!! Can't blame "structures" (whatever they are) for that!!!!" As ever you're being disingenuous. It displays a lack of confidence on your part. In your case it manifests itself as trying to be a smart alec. No doubt that's a legacy of learned behaviour. Ironically, because of a negative experience you had with a prominent figure in your life, you're carrying it forward and trying to project it onto others. You're to be pitied. To make it simple for you to grasp, you're the classic example of monkey see, monkey do.
If you really have to ask what the problems are then you ain't got a clue.
ThePowerhouse (Leitrim) - Posts: 239 - 12/06/2025 16:10:02
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Replying To ThePowerhouse: "As ever you're being disingenuous. It displays a lack of confidence on your part. In your case it manifests itself as trying to be a smart alec. No doubt that's a legacy of learned behaviour. Ironically, because of a negative experience you had with a prominent figure in your life, you're carrying it forward and trying to project it onto others. You're to be pitied. To make it simple for you to grasp, you're the classic example of monkey see, monkey do.
If you really have to ask what the problems are then you ain't got a clue." What you said was so good you had to say it twice I see. lol. No need to get personal here but if that's how you want to do things that's ok. I won't stoop to that level. Thanks
bláthach (Leitrim) - Posts: 143 - 12/06/2025 16:22:07
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